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Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:00 pm

Is this a thing with airline/aviation enthusiasts - having somewhat vivid nightmares that involve plane crashes?

I'm sure lots of people do, even those who hate flying or are indifferent, but for me, I have nightmares about specific crashes and airlines - for some reason ValuJet flight 592 is one I've had several dreams about, either that I was about to get on the flight and knew I shouldn't but couldn't not get on, for some reason, or that I had loved ones booked on the flight and was trying to stop them. (I flew ValuJet home to MEM the Thursday night before that crash and had to fly them back that Monday AM - not sure if that seared it into my subconscious somehow.)

I was reminded of this because I guess night before last I had a terrible and rather graphic nightmare about a plane crash at some airport that wasn't really identifiable, but it was a certain airline and type - at first it aborted a landing and did a go-around and then upon trying again just crashed nose-first and I ran into the wreckage trying to save people but there was no one to be saved. Now I know pretty much for a fact that this dream was rooted in my reading too much about the Pan Am 759 crash on its anniversary and watching an NCIS episode where there were charred remains shown in terrible detail, as NCIS is prone to do - but my stars this was a terrible, horrifying dream.

Just curious if this is something that others experience, hope the subject matter isn't too morbid or dark.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:21 am

I've had a few, but not recently. In some of them I was on the plane, in others I was on the ground watching. I always managed to wake up when the crash actually happened.

I don't know about yours, but I think in my case it was due to the research I did into crashes. I've always wanted to know as many details about crashes as possible.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 12:24 am

I have always had them from time to time over the years - but in weird places and unknown airlines.

However lately I been getting them involving GA aircraft but that is because I work at a GA airport and would be a first responder if an incident or accident happened.
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 1:09 am

I have had one about a police helicopter crashing in to my pool over and over the past 5 years. They have their spot light on and are looking for someone but all the sudden is spins out of control and crashes in my pool.. I try to help the guys on board, but my dream ends each time I get to the pool....
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:40 am

Quoting SouthernDC9 (Thread starter):
Is this a thing with airline/aviation enthusiasts - having somewhat vivid nightmares that involve plane crashes?

It is an interesting subject. There was a thread (now locked) in Travel Polls six months ago with a similar topic:

Have You Ever Dreamt You Were In A Plane Crash?

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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:03 am

I dreamed I crashed a plane once--whilst stealing it from my hometown airport FWA!

Somehow I got access to a 747 freighter at the FWA Kitty Hawk base. I got in the cockpit, started it up, taxied it out to the end of FWA's longest runway (runway 5), and started to take off. I lost control of the 747, and it swan-dived right into the Lt. Paul Baer Terminal (the 8-gate passenger terminal at FWA).

Lesson learned: Don't steal a 747, especially if you have no flight training!  

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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:15 am

If a person is under a lot of stress maybe this could contribute to the fact that you are having these nightmares.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:52 am

One time I had a dream I was flying over the Atlantic and flew through a massive storm which ripped the left engine off, causing us to start falling, then I woke up as soon as we hit the water. The horrible thing is, I was due to fly LHR-JFK 2 days later! Still flew and the flights were great, so do not be put off if you dream of a plane crash a few days before your due to be on one!
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:19 pm

Friday, Sep 3, 1976. Venezuelan Air Force C-130 carrying a college choir to a European tour crashed at Lajes, Azores. I spent three days helping to recover bodies, not a single whole body, most still burning. Very gruesome duty. This happened 6 months before I was scheduled to leave Lajes. I had horrible nightmares almost nightly from that time until the day I left Lajes...all sorts of plane crashes before my eyes, all right there at Lajes. I was convinced that I would never again be able to get on a plane, and I wondered how I was going to get off Lajes, as flying was the only option. Fortunately, about a month after the accident my fear of flying subsuded, and I took a SATA inter-island flight for a weekend just to prove to myself that I was indeed able to fly again.

What is very interesting to me...and another mystery about how the human brain works...is that while I dreamed about plane crashes at Lajes virtually every single night until I left, those dreams stopped the very first day I was gone from Lajes for good. It was like my brain gave me those dreams as long as I was still living at the crash location, but the day I was gone from there the dreams stopped. I have not had a single dream of a plane crash since I left the Azores.

One lasting effect...I will NEVER EVER be able to do anything like that again. I have the highest admiration for those folks who are able to handle scenes like that. When I read accident reports about burning and maimed bodies and body parts scattered around the area resulting from a plane crash, I know exactly what that looks and smells like.

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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 5:56 pm

last Tuesday night, while sleeping at the Yotel at AMS, waiting to fly DL back to DTW I had a bad dream involving a DL A330. I dreamt that we had to divert for a security reason and we diverted to Springfield, Illinois (which would be crazy to begin with). In the dream everyone had to get off the plane and a bunch of a.nuttters where there snapping photos of an A330 in Springfield.

That is the only dream I ever had involving and incident on a plane. I didn't worry about it too much, but it did cross my mind when boarding the next day.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 7:48 pm

I heard about the worst disaster in Alabama history when a Piper Cub crashed in a cemetery. The pilot walked away, but they have, so far, dug up 800 bodies around the crash site.....
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:03 pm

Quoting AzoresLover (Reply 8):
Friday, Sep 3, 1976. Venezuelan Air Force C-130 carrying a college choir to a European tour crashed at Lajes, Azores. I spent three days helping to recover bodies, not a single whole body, most still burning. Very gruesome duty. This happened 6 months before I was scheduled to leave Lajes. I had horrible nightmares almost nightly from that time until the day I left Lajes...all sorts of plane crashes before my eyes, all right there at Lajes. I was convinced that I would never again be able to get on a plane, and I wondered how I was going to get off Lajes, as flying was the only option. Fortunately, about a month after the accident my fear of flying subsuded, and I took a SATA inter-island flight for a weekend just to prove to myself that I was indeed able to fly again.

What is very interesting to me...and another mystery about how the human brain works...is that while I dreamed about plane crashes at Lajes virtually every single night until I left, those dreams stopped the very first day I was gone from Lajes for good. It was like my brain gave me those dreams as long as I was still living at the crash location, but the day I was gone from there the dreams stopped. I have not had a single dream of a plane crash since I left the Azores.

One lasting effect...I will NEVER EVER be able to do anything like that again. I have the highest admiration for those folks who are able to handle scenes like that. When I read accident reports about burning and maimed bodies and body parts scattered around the area resulting from a plane crash, I know exactly what that looks and smells like.

Thanks for sharing the story, and I fully understand it can be very hard to process mentally. I have the utmost respect for anyone working in a sector where it is vital to be calm and collected in times where you want to be anything but calm and collected, the level of professionalism shown by those people every day, all over the world, is remarkable.

Just a general question (feel free to not answer if you don't wish to), did you ever go back to the Azores or are you planning/wanting too, or do you not want to return there?
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 9:22 pm

I sleep and dream of aviation nightmares many times. Typical of aviation lovers, especially us on here.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:08 pm

I make lots of dreams where I fly, in fact I make those dreams happen by thinking about it when going to sleep. For a few years I was very into discussing about plane crashes, even registered on a forum called "crash-aerien", but have never had a nightmare about a crash.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:58 pm

I work around airplanes every day. I started having nightmares about them approx 10 years ago. Mine are mostly about general aviation stuff as that is what I work around. I guess if you're around something enough, you're gonna have nightmares about it.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:10 am

Quoting SuperCaravelle (Reply 11):
did you ever go back to the Azores or are you planning/wanting too, or do you not want to return there?

Actually, I would love very much to go back to the Azores. I still consider the four years I spent there while in the US Air Force to be a highlight of my life. I visited all 9 islands, climbed Pico, the highest point in Portugal, traveled on local boats and steamers around the islands, sailed all around on a Catamaran privately owned by a friend, hiked over virtually every bit of Terceira Island, where Lajes is located, just basically had a totally enjoyable time being there.

While cleaning up that crash site was very traumatic for me, especially what I mentally went through afterward, it is now behind me, and does not diminish the great memories and experiences I enjoyed while there. A memorial monument has been erected on the crash site, and I would actually like to go back and visit to see that monument.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:34 am

Hi!

I have a recurring dream sometimes (well nightmare) that I'm in a 747 and really scared. We're flying transatlantic I think and for some reason we have to fly at tree level. It is always snowy and we are flying through the pine trees and I'm hoping we don't crash!

Luckily haven't had it in quite a long time!

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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:50 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 10):

What was the outcome for the aircraft?...waking up the dead sucks...it's like living in New York!
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:02 pm

The most recent crash dream was a few nights ago. A BA 747 in Oneworld livery (it was pretty detailed), exploded over my neighborhood and destroyed almost everything. There was fire everywhere and I was trying to salvage whatever I could.

Past dreams have been: I was flying a TS A310 to Norway and we crashed into the sea off the coast of a mountain. I don't know the landscape of Norway so I don't know how accurate this is. I survived it and didn't wake up right away.

I have also dreamed of an Asiana 747 crashing into the Pacific...this was before it happened.    I know it's just a coincidence and wasn't directly in the Pacific(I think), it's just weird to think about.
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:41 pm

I use to have dreams of plane crashes. I was never on the plane, but I would view the plane crash from the inside of the airport terminal or I would be standing outside and see the plane crash into a field or forest. Even a few times the dream would take place with me in my bed asleep, being awoken by the screaming of jet engines... Those dreams I immediately jolted from sleep and was somewhat shaken, realizing it was just a dream. In most of the dreams, I would immediately call 911, or attempt to rather... the phone, for whatever reason, would not dial.

It would be interesting to see if there are any meanings behind that type of dream. I regularly dream that my teeth have falled out or I am falling from a significant height - all which mean insecurity and anxiety.
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:59 am

Actually plane crashes is kind of what got me into aviation because of people I have know involved in them (also the fact that I suddenly found myself on planes 46 weeks a year on business.

A friend died on USAir 427
Friends father died on Turkish Air 981
A coworker survived USAir 1493

This for a while had me obsessed with plane crashes. Use to read about them all the time and watch some shows as well.

For the longest time, I would have occasional dreams, almost always the same. It involved me flying in a Continental plane (generally an old MD80) and for some reason we were flying through a valley. We would be flying so low that we were having to constantly go up and down to dodge trees and other obstacles. We would also be banking hard left and right to keep up with the twists and turns of the narrow valley. It generally ended with us crashing into water (in the valley for some reason) and then I would always wake up as we were trying to evacuate the plane. I had this exact same dream probably a good 20 times. Often right before I fly.
 
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RE: Nightmares About Plane Crashes

Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:36 am

I did dream I died on AA #11..

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