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Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:23 pm

The latest insult Obama has hurled at American entrepreneurs "If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that.” Because in his warped mind it was the USA infrastructure that built your business. Well, Mr. Obama where did you get the money to build that infrastructure? You taxed hard-working Americans for it.

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/07/16/...urs-you-didnt-build-your-business/

Just another reason why Obama doesn't deserve to be re-elected.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:35 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):
USA infrastructure that built your business

"Main Street" is after all a street build with public funds.. no?
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:39 pm

Quote:
the average American with $250,000 or more in income



Lol, I sure wish I was more average.

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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:40 pm

Hey, nothing like taking part of a speech out of context and misinterpreting it all over the place.

The fact is, none of us every accomplish anything strictly by our own effort. We are lifted and nurtured by the parents who raised us, by their genes we inherited, by the school systems that educated us, etc. Likewise anybody who endeavors to run a business on their own are lifted and nurtured by the infrastructure that supports it, such as road systems, communication systems, laws and law enforcement, etc.

Those who start and run their own businesses show a lot of courage and deserve the reap the rewards, as Obama has pointed out. But this notion that business owners are noble in what they do and that they did it all with their own two hands is simple minded and insulting to a society that has paid a lot of financial and regulatory deference to entrepreneurs.

You are entitled to believe Obama doesn't deserve re-election, but I wish you would be fair and at least make an attempt to understand his words instead of manipulating them against him as a way to smear him.
 
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:53 pm

Well this thread was obviously started as another Obama bashing thread.
Why can't the bashers start a "Romney is Great " thread?
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 4:58 pm

Massachusetts US Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren (can't remember her Indian name) is running on that same mantra.

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):
"If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that.”


That's only true a of business like Solyndra.
Obama doesn't know anything about starting a business or running a business. He didn't lure any businesses to the community he organized.....
In fact, no job in the private sector would have allowed him to stay on the job for up to 4 years blaming the previous employee he replaced. Most employers would only give you 90 days.

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):
Just another reason why Obama doesn't deserve to be re-elected.


  
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:00 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 4):
Why can't the bashers start a "Romney is Great " thread?

That's because he isn't.  It's interesting and encouraging to see the lack of enthusiasm for Romney.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:02 pm

Quoting mbmbos (Reply 3):
mbmbos

Hey nothing like not reading the whole article The first part of the quote is even more terrible..."Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges"

If Obama had a clue about American history he would know that most of the roads in the early republic were built by private investors and its why we pay .15-.30 a gallon to build and maintain roads.

How half-white of him to 'allow' us to succeed despite him wanting us to be dependent on the state (highest number of people dependent on government in some form...ever). Again where does government get their money to build roads and bridges? From the fairyroadmother?
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
Hey nothing like not reading the whole article

Please provide a source for the entire speech, not selected excerpts.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Superfly

Reminds me of the story about the black guy who going to be fired. He said, "You're firing me cuz I'm black!" No replied, the supervisor. "We hired you because you were black, we're firing you because you're incompetent"
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:09 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
How half-white of him to 'allow' us to succeed despite him wanting us to be dependent on the state (highest number of people dependent on government in some form...ever). Again where does government get their money to build roads and bridges? From the fairyroadmother?

You're just talking in circles and you're not making much sense.

And "half-white?" Is that kind of comment really necessary?
 
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:18 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 6):
That's because he isn't. It's interesting and encouraging to see the lack of enthusiasm for Romney.


We don't praise politicians for being a supreme-being, super-human celebrity. At least we know that Mitt Romney is a politician. Obama is a politician too but his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 9):
Reminds me of the story about the black guy who going to be fired. He said, "You're firing me cuz I'm black!" No replied, the supervisor. "We hired you because you were black, we're firing you because you're incompetent"



I'd elaborate more on that but that belongs in another thread.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:26 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Obama is a politician too but his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

Really? Perhaps that is a misunderstanding on the part of the side that sees him as an evil pinko-commie undercover-Muslim spawn of Satan. I've read far more of that than I have read of the kind of worship by which you seem to be surrounded.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:32 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Obama is a politician too but his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

This is a straw man, Superfly. In other words, it's a fake argument. You can always find a few followers who are zealots. But you'll find plenty of criticism of Obama from Democrats in general as well as liberals.

Obama has as many if not fewer zealots than Dubya did.
 
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:33 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 12):
Really?


Yep.
I've seen women fainting when he gives speeches and damn near throwing their panties on stage. The idol worship of his fans is just insane. Perhaps you should spend some time in the US and see how his hardcaore supporters behave. This sort of fan worship is something I would expect from a rock star, not a politician.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:41 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Obama is a politician too but his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

I find this hilarious coming from someone supporting a person who beleives that they can achieve the status of a god?
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:49 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
I've seen women fainting when he gives speeches and damn near throwing their panties on stage.

So some people treated him like a rock star and that is reason enough to say that

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus

? Bull.   

It is exactly this sort of generalised disparagement that poisons every political discussion.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Perhaps you should spend some time in the US and see how his hardcaore supporters behave.

I'm there about once per month on average, but I stay the hell away from political events and I have no intention to change that.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:49 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 15):
I find this hilarious coming from someone supporting a person who beleives that they can achieve the status of a god?



Mitt Romney has never forced his personal religious beliefs in business or in public office. Besides, you should be very tolerant of his beliefs since you seem to be so tolerant of Obama's associations with Muslims as well as his 'Christian' Reverend Wright.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:01 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 17):

Mitt Romney has never forced his personal religious beliefs in business or in public office. Besides, you should be very tolerant of his beliefs since you seem to be so tolerant of Obama's associations with Muslims as well as his 'Christian' Reverend Wright.

You made my point while missing it.

Why would you use a statement such as 2nd coming of christ, if there wasn't a religious undercurrent to it?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:03 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 16):
Bull.

It is exactly this sort of generalised disparagement that poisons every political discussion.



Not bull at all.
This is my observation. I've seen enough Presidential elections over the years and the obsession with Obama is unlike any other. Even Obama supporters admit this. In fact, The Onion which is a left-wing, political satire news outlet did a spoof mocking the Obama supporters after the election in 2008.
Don't get all snippy just because someone points out what they see.
He is a rock-star. There is no doubt about that and his supporters will be the first to tell you.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:06 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 18):
You made my point while missing it.

Did you have one to begin with?

Quoting casinterest (Reply 18):
Why would you use a statement such as 2nd coming of christ, if there wasn't a religious undercurrent to it?

Umm, ok. 2nd coming of John Lennon? Jim Morrison? Bob Marley?
That sound better?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:28 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Did you have one to begin with?

You were the one that brought Religion into it. Seems rather hypocritcial coming from the GOP.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 20):
Umm, ok. 2nd coming of John Lennon? Jim Morrison? Bob Marley?
That sound better?

Hmm drugged out Superstars? doesn't really fit. But keep trying. I am laughing harder and harder at the blasting of Obama and his supporters without really looking at what Romney is bringing to the table.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:40 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 21):
Seems rather hypocritcial coming from the GOP.

??????
Who is the "GOP"?

Quoting casinterest (Reply 21):
Hmm drugged out Superstars? doesn't really fit.

Just like Obama himself back in the 80s. Read his books.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:41 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
Don't get all snippy just because someone points out what they see.

I'm neither getting snippy nor annoyed. I'm just trying to get the point across that

Quoting aloges (Reply 16):
generalised disparagement

is counterproductive. You say that you've seen an unprecedented amount of support for Obama, up to and including rock star-like treatment. Fine, I have noticed the same. But you make statements like this:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 11):
Obama is a politician too but his supporters see him as infallible and the 2nd coming of Jesus.

which generalise all Obama supporters, as if there are none who have issues with some of his policies and/or record. That sort of overdramatisation is, as I was saying, the poison that kills any discussion - if people who support different politicians see each other as mindless disciples, if that is the starting point of the discussion, then it is doomed from the start.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:46 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 22):
Just like Obama himself back in the 80s. Read his books.

Oh , so things in the past matter ? . Then let's have Romney's Bain associations and Tax records  
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:47 pm

Quoting aloges (Reply 23):
which generalise all Obama supporters,



"All"?
Ok, many of his supporters.
Sound better?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:51 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 24):
Then let's have Romney's Bain associations and Tax records


I don't give a $h!t about Romney's taxes.
I don't care what Romney does with HIS money. I'm concerned about what Obama wants to do with MY money.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
"All"?
Ok, many of his supporters.
Sound better?
Quoting Superfly (Reply 26):
I don't give a $h!t about Romney's taxes.
I don't care what Romney does with HIS money. I'm concerned about what Obama wants to do with MY money.

I see, so everything Obama does is wrong, but you don't care what Romney does. explains it perfectly. Back to my original point.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 4):
Well this thread was obviously started as another Obama bashing thread.
Why can't the bashers start a "Romney is Great " thread?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:57 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 26):
I don't give a $h!t about Romney's taxes.
I don't care what Romney does with HIS money. I'm concerned about what Obama wants to do with MY money.

It your money if he did not pay what by law he was required to pay..
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:01 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 27):
I see, so everything Obama does is wrong,


Smoking crack is against the law. Having an overseas bank account is not.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 27):
but you don't care what Romney does. explains it perfectly


Having money overseas is not against the law.

The United States is the only country that taxes people based on citizenship.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:02 pm

Normally I don't feed the trolls, but...

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):
If Obama had a clue about American history he would know that most of the roads in the early republic were built by private investors and its why we pay .15-.30 a gallon to build and maintain roads.

Actually, a great many early roads were built with slave labor. Don't ever forget that.
 
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:02 pm

I support Romney releasing his tax and business records, as long as Obama releases his college applications, Selective Service application, and college essays.

All's fair in love and war (and politics).
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:04 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 31):
I support Romney releasing his tax and business records, as long as Obama releases his college applications, Selective Service application, and college essays.

All's fair in love and war (and politics).

  
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:07 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 31):
I support Romney releasing his tax and business records, as long as Obama releases his college applications, Selective Service application, and college essays.

I didn't know that Obama was making his claim to be re-elected bases on college essays..

Romney IS making the case of becoming President on how good a business man he is (was).
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:09 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 33):
Romney IS making the case of becoming President on how good a business man he is (was).


Excellent point. Then we should review Bain's P&L's, balance sheets, and appropriate statements as well as the SLC Olympic records to get a good feel for he runs a business. I support this 100%.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:11 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Having money overseas is not against the law.

The United States is the only country that taxes people based on citizenship.

That citizenship comes with right and priveldges .If folks don't value or need it, then they can renounce it and leave.


However if the person running for President is doing so based on his business accumen, and that accumen includes getting rid of US jobs, and storing money offshore, which deprives the US of Revenue. Then that person should answer for how they treat money, and in that case, his finances are a direct concern to me, as a US resident and taxpayer.



Quoting Superfly (Reply 29):
Smoking crack is against the law

So is jaywalking . .Your point?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 31):
college applications, Selective Service application, and college essays.

what idiot keeps these forms?
I sure as hell don't have any of these.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:17 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
"All"?
Ok, many of his supporters.
Sound better?

It may sound better, but I have my doubts that it really changes anything...
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:18 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 35):
Then that person should answer for how they treat money, and in that case, his finances are a direct concern to me, as a US resident and taxpayer.

I agree. As long as that person obeyed all US laws then I have no problem with it. Just as I utilize every deduction and loophole I can fine when I have to pay my taxes, and I'm sure you do as well, Romney does the same.

I don't, for a moment, think that any US citizen sits down at their kitchen table on April 15th and says, "Well, the boss-man pulled out $15,000 for taxes this year so I'm good with that." Nope. He sits down and says to his wife, "Honey, where is that shoebox full of receipts that we saved from last year? And do you recall how much we put in Junior's 529 plan? Oh, and how many miles did you drive for PTA and Junior's soccer team last year? We've got to include those." Romney did that on a larger scale.

All Obama is doing is trying to create class warfare and turn anyone making less than $250k a year against Mittens. He can't run on his record and his campaign promises of 2008 because he has none to brag about. It's politics at their finest.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:18 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 36):
what idiot keeps these forms?



What "idiot" spends over $2Million to conceal this information?

Quoting casinterest (Reply 35):
getting rid of US jobs,



Just as Obama's jobs czar Jefferey Immelt of General Electric did who paid NO taxes at all.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:20 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 36):
what idiot keeps these forms?
I sure as hell don't have any of these.

Well, he's kept them or they are ot there somewhere because he's spent over $1.4 million fighting their release over the past 3+ years.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:23 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 40):
Well, he's kept them or they are ot there somewhere because he's spent over $1.4 million fighting their release over the past 3+ years.

  
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:25 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 38):
All Obama is doing is trying to create class warfare and turn anyone making less than $250k a year against Mittens. He can't run on his record and his campaign promises of 2008 because he has none to brag about. It's politics at their finest.

It's politics for sure. In those years since 2008, what has the GOP done ? They have obstrcted at every turn. I am three years older, and the GOP is every bit to blame as the democrats for what has not occurred in 4 years. Taxes have been cut and deficits have gone up, yet the GOP can't stand a tax increase ot make up the revenue loss?

Romney cannot be trusted, since his plan to downsize government would probably be to offshore it to China.
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:27 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
What "idiot" spends over $2Million to conceal this information?

Show some proof. 2 million really?
Did you go to college?
Did you keep your applications? Or did you maybe mail them in, in hopes of getting accepted?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:31 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 38):
agree. As long as that person obeyed all US laws then I have no problem with it. Just as I utilize every deduction and loophole I can fine when I have to pay my taxes, and I'm sure you do as well, Romney does the same.

I am sure he does as well - If no laws have been broken.. why not show his tax returns?
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:35 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 43):

It's kind of hilarious though. This "idea" that Obama has spent x amount of money to hide his record started with him allegedly spending $1 million to hide his birth certificate during the 2008 election (nevermind that he released it himself to begin with), and since then the figure has been inflated a bit (as you can see above, it's either $1.4 or $2 million) - not to mention they can't really decide what he's apparently hiding.

The figure is usually equal to what the Obama campaign has spent in legal fees, which is of course not just limited to "hiding his records". See for instance http://www.rollcall.com/issues/56_10...-Up-Large-Legal-Fees-204489-1.html
 
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:36 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 31):
as long as Obama releases his college applications, Selective Service application, and college essays.

How bizarre that you, or anyone, would want to see this information. Why would you care about this stuff?
 
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:40 pm

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 46):
How bizarre that you, or anyone, would want to see this information. Why would you care about this stuff?

College application because there's an ongoing idea that he applied for foreign student aid, which would prove that he's a foreign usurper.
Selective Service application because there's an ongoing idea that he filed it too late and thus.. dunno why really, probably for the potential smear. Or if you ask Sheriff Joe, it's somehow faked.
College essays I really haven't a clue why. Perhaps they're running out of things to demand, making it more difficult to claim he's hiding something?
 
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Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:49 pm

Quoting StuckInCA (Reply 46):
How bizarre that you, or anyone, would want to see this information. Why would you care about this stuff?

Actually, why would he want to hide it? If there's nothing to see what is he afraid of?

Me, I'd like to see his background, his true background, not his sanitized background.

As an employer, when I receive a batch of resumes', applications, or intern requests, I will Google those candidates I am most interested in. I request their college records, I perform eVerify, I look at their references, and I even Google their references to see who they hang out with and what those people are like. I spend upwards of 40 hours before I bring in an applicant in for a final interview and job offer. It's called research and background checks. I have to stake my reputation on the line when I recommend someone for a position in my firm. If my applicant refuses my request for transcript reviews, a valid SS#, or to interview his references, or perform a credit check and background check, then he most likely will find his application and resume' round-filed.

Yet, we don't require the same from a person who wants to be President of the United States. It's absurd. Or better yet, we only require this information from one candidate but will let the other one slide under the guise of political correctness. What a country we live in.
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RE: Obama Says “If You’ve Got A Business—yo

Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:58 pm

Quoting KBJCpilot (Reply 48):
Actually, why would he want to hide it? If there's nothing to see what is he afraid of?

Why would Romney want to hide his Tax Returns?
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