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Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:46 am

Big problem for a friend of mine. Thoughts / opinions ?
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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:10 am

I know someone quite well, whom has it: ME!  

It mostly only affects me in situations with larger spaces + less people. Perhaps since I am also an extrovert? Dunno, but like if say I a five foot barrier to someone instead of say a fifty foot barrier to any and all walls, I'd do much better with the former.

It also affects me some with swimming, kayaking, and boating in our lake. The further I get from the shore the more freaked out I feel. Not in a panic type situation, but in a getting an uneasy feeling with seeing the houses getting tinier and tinier, which, with that said, ironically and thankfully I'm yet to experience much of a difference with while driving or flying.    


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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:36 am

My grandmother on my mom's side had it.

It was disabling for her and a huge pain in the ass for the rest of the family. She never had any sort of treatment for it. She never drove a car, went to a movie, or participated in outside activities of her kids/grandkids, saw the ocean (she lived in Florida for a time!) and pretty much never left her house the last 10 years of her life. She would send grocery lists to her children and just do her thing at home. It was very sad.
 
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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:18 am

Some can be functioning agorapobics, meaning, they are limited, but are limited in a way that their mind allows them to do things. I went through a period of 'functioning' agoraphobia about 10 years ago. It took me to realize that i was not living my life authentically and was conflicted in many ways. Lot s of stresses in my life at the time. Job/work, relationship and other things. Stress and anxiety are major factors, in fact Id say agoraphobia is a form of anxiety.

I don't want to go into too much on a public forum, pm me if you'd like. I will say, the typical response is to provide anti depressants and anxti anxietys, but many who have dealt with this personally do NOT condone the use of drugs. I never did. I just changed my life and believed that I could do this and did. Doctors are good ,, don't get me wrong, but if they have not personally gone through it, I cannot believe they can faithfully know the right thing to do save for what they've learned in med school. There sometimes is no rhyme or reason on how it affects individuals. During my worse time, I was taking cabs to and from work and to and from restaurants, but the minute I got to an airport and went somewhere new and exciiting where I had to trust myself, I was completely fine.

An excellent read is anything by Claire Weekes who was a pioneer in anxiety and agoraphobia long long before much was really known about it. Have your friend look up her info and readings. But the sooner the better, these things can snowball into deeper problems and confidence in ones self decreases as time goes by.
 
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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:10 pm

Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia is a very serious business, and is a manifestation of severe depression. Early and aggressive treatment by specialist therapists is important owing to the risk of suicide.

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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:45 pm

Quoting comorin (Reply 4):
Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia is a very serious business, and is a manifestation of severe depression. Early and aggressive treatment by specialist therapists is important owing to the risk of suicide.

I myself once had panic attacks, and did go through depression.


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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:40 am

Hi!

Quoting comorin (Reply 4):
Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia is a very serious business, and is a manifestation of severe depression. Early and aggressive treatment by specialist therapists is important owing to the risk of suicide.

I'm no doctor but did have agrophobia (well a kind of agrophobia) for a few years and to be honest it was one of the happiest times of my life. I was very much like the guy Channing Tatum's Dad in the movie Dear John if you've seen that except that instead of being into coins I was into Flight Simulation and planes and airports and Anet and computer games. People may have looked at me like I was sad and wasting my life but I was blissfully happy at home with my hobbies. However my Mum didn't like seeing me like that and would make me do more. This normally lead to some scary situations like the time I went with my brother to Tunisia on holiday which was extremely stressful to say the least. The only things which kept me from freaking out were a Nintendo Game and Watch, some electrical store catalogues, swimming in the pool and playing backgammon. Everything else felt very surreal and quite scary.

When going out I would only feel calm really if with a relative or doing something to do with planes or ships. Cities were terrifying and bars and clubs you could forget about. If I had to go out I would go to Heathrow or Gatwick. When my Mum kicked me out I spent a week watching planes at Gatwick and then a week watching cruise ships and container ships at Southampton. Then as I still wasn't allowed back home I went to France and spent a few days at St.Nazaire where they build cruise ships and Airbus and then a week at Toulouse watching planes and then a few weeks in Nice airport. I would sleep in the cheapest chain motels or swim in the sea and sleep in my car (in the boot with the seats folded down flat). I would spend very little and look for work always at airports! I once spent one summer in Zurich with my parents going to the airport observation deck every single day for four weeks spending maybe 5 hours there a day. I never got bored or didn't have an awesome time for one second. People call it mental illness but I was happy and not hurting anyone.

Now that that part of my life is over I'm much more normal but I don't actually believe I'm happier and in fact am much unhappier. I worry about friends and girls and people now. Back then for maybe seven years all I thought about was flightsim and airports and transport and my other hobbies. Sometimes I wish I could go back!

It's only my experience but hope it might help.

Many thanks.

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RE: Know Anyone With Agorophobia?

Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:05 am

I have an acquaintance that has this. He made a great real estate investment in the 80's and sold the land for millions in the early 2000's. He was literally a millionaire overnight. He was totally normal until this happened.

It started out not being able to take the most direct route to any destination he was traveling to. If you stayed on the same road for more than a mile without making any turns he'd start to freak out. Then if he saw an airplane flying through the sky he would get sick to his stomach. He once dropped his wife off at the airport but she had to drive him back home because he got freaked out by the airplanes.
Finally over a period of a year he just stayed in his house with his family. He began to remodel the inside of their home. I'll tell you in three years time that was one beautiful house!

The strangest thing about this guy was that when you are there in person with him you have no idea he has all these things going on inside his head. He appears to be totally normal. No strange speech or anything like that. He's been to therapists before but he claims they are all nuttier than he is.

Over the past two years I kinda lost track of this guy. Then last week I was shopping in the grocery store and saw him in there by himself. I walked up to him and said Hi! How are you doing. He just stood there for a second and kinda froze for a moment. He then looked at me and told me "Don't do that! I don't want to freak out. I'm here on an assignment".

It turns out that he's seeing a therapist again and on some kind of medication and has these outside "assignments" he has to do all by himself. Things we all take for granted like grocery shopping, going to the hardware store, clothes shopping etc. He says it's getting easier but he's still not that comfortable with it. Maybe over time....
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