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Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:10 am

So, here's the story: Our garburator just failed and I wasn't able to fix it. So I went to the local Home Depot store, picked up a new one and drove home. Just as I arrived, a friend showed up. I told him what I'm about to do (replace the garburator) and he asked, why did I buy it here, as it may be much cheaper in the USA. Well, I checked on it and I was shocked. It is indeed cheaper in the USA. But i didn't anticipate such difference. The same model costs at the American Home depot $ 219 US. The Canadian price is $ 339. At every single store! OK, the model number differs, the US model number is 76000, the Canadian model number is 7600B. I wasn't able to find out what's the difference between the two. But most likely, the only difference is the bilingual box and user manual for the 7600B.
There is no way I'll keep it. I'll drive to Fort Gratiot and pick up one there. Just for the hell of it. And the one I picked up Sunday is going back to the store.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:14 am

I had no idea what a garburator was until I looked it up on Wikipedia.

Depending on where it's made I'm sure there's some sort of tax that helps to explain the price difference.
 
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:28 am

Quoting WildcatYXU (Thread starter):
garburator

That's awesome. I thought it was a typo. Was wondering why you went to Home Depot for that.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:36 am

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
Depending on where it's made I'm sure there's some sort of tax that helps to explain the price difference.

According to Insikerator's web site it's made in the USA. So there should be no duty or tax other than the HST.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:28 am

What the hell is a "garburator" ?
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:23 am

According to Google, it's a "Garbage Disposal Unit".

A bin, basically.  
 
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:08 am

Quoting ajd1992 (Reply 5):
A bin, basically.

far from it

It's a motorised shredder that lives under the sink in many North American kitchens and gives European visitors a heart attack when they confuse its power switch with that for the light. Naturally, I have only heard of such mishaps.   
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:01 am

Funny you should mention "bilingual" and "Fort Gratiot". I often go into the Lowes store over there, just for the same price difference reasons you talk about.

I'm always amazed by the complete bilingual (English / Spanish) signage in the store. You'd think they were on the Mexican border at Laredo, TX instead of the Canadian border at Fort Gratiot, MI.
 
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:03 pm

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
I had no idea what a garburator was
Quoting fr8mech (Reply 2):
I thought it was a typo.



I asked myself what it is when I saw it for the fist time under the counter. But it was 7 years ago and now I really like it.

Quoting aloges (Reply 6):
gives European visitors a heart attack when they confuse its power switch with that for the light.



Actually, it scares the bejesus out of the North American home owners too when they hit the incorrect switch  
Quoting ronglimeng (Reply 7):
I often go into the Lowes store over there, just for the same price difference reasons you talk about.



Certainly. However, I'm surprised that the stores on Canadian side don't try to adjust their prices.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:59 pm

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 4):
What the hell is a "garburator" ?

I've never heard this term either. I think "garbage disposal" is way more common here. Maybe it's a Canadian term.

Anyway, I wonder why they're not common in Europe as well. I find them absolutely indispensable. I just got a one horsepower beast which is whisper-quiet but can handle anything I throw at it- even half-frozen bits of chicken.....
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:19 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
Anyway, I wonder why they're not common in Europe as well. I find them absolutely indispensable.

Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:11 pm

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

I doubt it. There is no such system in the UK and you still find such equipment very rarely in people's homes.

Edit: Clarification - not that I am doubting AustrianZRH's opinion on the matter, just saying that it is clearly not the only issue.

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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:19 pm

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

Garbage disposal units are prohibited, by law? That's insane.

I've installed one in every home I've owned. Hell, the apartments I've lived in have them.

Here's a gem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaudUAHZinw
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
Garbage disposal units are prohibited, by law? That's insane.

They tried to ban them in Raleigh a few years ago. The Mayor got all of his facts messed up and listened ot a bunch of folks that knew nothing about what they were talking about in terms of grease. Fun stuff.

However Garbage Disposal is the term used in the US.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:53 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
can handle anything I throw at it- even half-frozen bits of chicken.....

I watched a show and they are supposedly designed to handle chicken bones etc. as a part of their normal operation. And I do normally put chicken bones down it.

Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 10):
Because in most European countries the municipal administrations charge you for waste disposal by only accepting special sacks - to be bought against a not-too-small fee - for disposal. As a significant part of the waste is kitchen waste, such a device would impact the income of the municipalities and are thus prohibited by law.

How would they know? And they really don't harm the sewage/waste water system process (I get that they want the money but it wouldn't cost them any more at least).

Quoting casinterest (Reply 13):
However Garbage Disposal is the term used in the US.

I always call it the "dish grinder". Hate it when that small spoon or fork gets down there (and yes, I know spoons and forks etc. aren't technically "dishes" but it "utensil grinder" doesn't work as well....   )

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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:34 pm

Here we pay for garbage disposal and water treatment with local taxes so it's not about money directly, now I don't know if having most of the kitchen waste go into plastic bags is cheaper to handle than if it goes down the drain.

I did some digging and it turns out garburators are illegal in France, probably because nothing has been sized to take them into account.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:26 pm

Quoting zckls04 (Reply 9):
I've never heard this term either. I think "garbage disposal" is way more common here.

Yep.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
Hell, the apartments I've lived in have them.

My apartment has one, as did the house I grew up in. We used it all the time.

Amusingly, the model name imprinted on them was always "In-SINK-erator". Honest to god, I did not get that until last year. After seeing it for 29 years. Somehow, it just never occurred to me.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:48 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 15):
I did some digging and it turns out garburators are illegal in France, probably because nothing has been sized to take them into account.

Hmm, strange. I don't know the pipe sizes in France, but in the old country - Slovakia - sink drain pipes start at 2" diameter, compared to 1.5" here. So the sizing certainly isn't a problem. Yet nobody ever heard of a garburator in Slovakia either.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 16):
the model name imprinted on them was always "In-SINK-erator"

Actually, that's the brand name. The model names differ.
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RE: Monday's Rant: $ 120 For A Bilingual Box?

Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:52 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 17):

Actually, that's the brand name. The model names differ.

Ha, that's funny. When I first typed my post, I wrote "Amusingly, the brand name imprinted on them..."

Then I thought about it, and decided that was more likely the model name.

Oh well, I still didn't get the name for 29 years.  
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