|Quoting cmf (Reply 34):|
In the army. Five guys in a foxhole shooting at popup targets. One guy put down his weapon next to him and when it hit the ground there was enough force for the bolt to move. It hit the guy standing next to him.
cmf; Thanks for that explanation; now I can see where you got your present attitude about guns. Allow me to relate a few of my personal experiences that caused me to "rethink" my position about certain things.
All my life I have done things for myself; from working on my own cars, to putting a new roof on my house, painting my own house, cutting down my own trees that needed removing, and doing my own house wiring. Oh.......and I have also made a fair bit of my own furniture, as I enjoy working with wood and using power tools; I just remembered another one........when I was a teenager, it was quite popular to play with carbide and make your own explosives ! I'll touch on that one first;
In about 1944 I was in the 7th grade; someone, I don't remember who, discovered that you could buy a can of carbide, (which came in "pressed in" lid metal qt. cans), then take 3 or 4 grains of carbide, place them in an empty gallon paint can, punch a small hole in the bottom of the can, then put the carbide in the bottom of the can, put a few drops of water on the carbide, causing it to give off a very nasty smelling gas. (which is acetylene gas), push the lid on the can, lay the can on it's side, and while holding your foot on the can, hold a lit kitchen match to the hole on the bottom, and BOOM..........the lid flies 30 feet into the air.
Obviously, this "worked" only because the lid was "pressed in", rather than "screwed on"; For several months, this became a very common thing among young boys my age; but as we all know, many young boys are always trying to "set a record"; in this case, see who could make the can lid go the highest.
Enter one of my class mates in the seventh grade, one Linville Johnson; Linville was a very "likable" kid, but a little "careless"; Linville reasoned that a trash can, being much larger, thereby holding more acetylene from the wet carbide would make a bigger bang, and the lid would fly MUCH higher ! He even named it his "volcano" ! Fortunately, when Linville tried out his "volcano" the first time, no one else was around; unfortunately, when Linville held the match to the hole, the explosion
blew off several of Linville's fingers and much of his face; after many months in the hospital, Linville "survived", but he looked "much different" than he did before he tested his "volcano".
The lesson learned from this unfortunate incident; don't "mess" with carbide and acetylene !
Yet, I have a small oxy - acetylene torch and cylinders that I use for cutting and replacing the carbide tooth inserts on the saw blades for my saw mill; the key difference being..........having gone through class A metalsmith school in the Navy, and having worked with oct acetylene equipment for about 62 years now, I "know what I'm doing" and how to do it";
As far as I know, you can still buy granular carbide (for use in carbide lanterns) Not sure if that's a good analogy or not;
Another very common "tool" which causes probably even more injuries than guns, is chain saws; ( I have five chain saws at the moment)
About 12 years ago, I bought a new Sthil 036 chain saw; while I was using it to remove a small sapling from next to my ex wife's barn foundation, I had an unfortunate "incident"; (you will note, I said "incident", NOT "accident") (big difference)
to make a long story short, the sapling moved in a way I had not anticipated when it fell, (bringing the chain saw chain with it, and I ended up with my left knee cap sawed open, (enabling me to see the knee joint inside my left knee)
Lesson learned from that experience............. either take a 5 year course on proper use of chain saws.........or DON"T touch one ! I was fortunate enough to become best friends with Ted when I moved to Indiana 10 years ago, ( Ted having 25 years experience felling big trees for a big hardwood lumber company ), so I have now gained 10 years of expert training relative to the proper use of chain saws. ( For the record, I feel almost as strongly about chain saws as cmf does about guns.)
I guess it's reasonable to adopt a very "leery" attitude about something when you see a near fatality involving it; I must point out though, it wasn't the gun that caused the guy in the fox hole to almost die........it was the careless misuse and handling of it by the guy who was "in a hurry".
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein