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Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:23 pm

This is no parody...Newsweek's cover this shows a photo of Barack Obama with the headline being 'Hit the Road, Barack. The article is written by Niall Ferguson, who is a Professor of History at Harvard.

Has President Obama lost the Main Stream Media or just CYA by the media to look 'balanced.'.

http://www.businessinsider.com/newsweek-cover-obama-must-go-2012-8
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:43 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):
Posted Mon Aug 20 2012 09:23:00 your local time (13 minutes 47 secs ago) and read 12 times:

This is no parody...Newsweek's cover this shows a photo of Barack Obama with the headline being 'Hit the Road, Barack. The article is written by Niall Ferguson, who is a Professor of History at Harvard.

It's written by a guy that was an ADVISOR for the McCain Campaign in 2008. Hardly far left wing.

Newsweek is just being balanced after calling Romney a "wimp" last week.

It's nothing more of an article than the basic running premise of the GOP." Economy and Heathcare are failed promises" , never mind the fact that it offers no better solution from the Right wing.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 1:57 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 1):
Newsweek is just being balanced after calling Romney a "wimp" last week.

Pleasant surprise from Newsweek. Good for them.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 1):
Economy and Heathcare are failed promises" , never mind the fact that it offers no better solution from the Right wing.


Sometimes pictures are worth a thousand words... The funny thing is that people are talking about the Ryan Budget, which was done months ago, when Ryan wasn't even thinking about being on the presidential ticket. An eventual Romney/Ryan plan might certainly borrow lots from it, but imagine that - some Congresscritter had more of a plan for the country than the President and entire White House staff.

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:10 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):

Sometimes pictures are worth a thousand words... The funny thing is that people are talking about the Ryan Budget, which was done months ago, when Ryan wasn't even thinking about being on the presidential ticket. An eventual Romney/Ryan plan might certainly borrow lots from it, but imagine that - some Congresscritter had more of a plan for the country than the President and entire White House staff.

Let me summarize Ryan's budget for you.
Rich folks: Tax Breaks, and Less Medicare
Middle Class : No Tax Breaks, maybe even a bit more in taxesm and Less Medicare and Social Security
Poor folks : More taxes, less heathcare, less social security.
Balanced Budget: Not anywhere in the foreseeable future.

My kid get points for putting crayons on paper, but I would hardly excpect anyone else to see it as a masterpiece.
Same with Ryan's budget. It is a rich get richer, and poor get poorer budget.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:27 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
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Oh, Obama has done so much better. In the last 2 years the Democrat-crontrolled Senate has defeated Obama's budget 196-0. The House defeated his 2012 Budget, 414-0

Spin it however you want but to the casual observer it makes Obama look very bad.

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:35 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 4):
Oh, Obama has done so much better. In the last 2 years the Democrat-crontrolled Senate has defeated Obama's budget 196-0. The House defeated his 2012 Budget, 414-0

Spin it however you want but to the casual observer it makes Obama look very bad.

Perhaps it was because the Obama budget was more honest with the spending and revenue, than a bunch of crooks seeking reelection want to be.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:49 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
My kid get points for putting crayons on paper, but I would hardly excpect anyone else to see it as a masterpiece.
Same with Ryan's budget. It is a rich get richer, and poor get poorer budget.

casinterest; One would almost get the idea that you don't "favor" Paul Ryan's proposed plan; may I ask you 3 things ?

!. Have you even read it ?
2. How does it affect YOU ?
3. Do YOU have a better idea ?


Now.......

!. I have read it, and I have had people far smarter than myself explain all the derails
2. It affects me directly, because I happen to be ON Medicare
3. Yeah, I have a marvelous idea ! I plan to vote for Paul & Mitt !

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:05 pm

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):
Has President Obama lost the Main Stream Media or just CYA by the media to look 'balanced.'

I don't think its either. Newsweek is having major financial issues (like a lot of print newsmedia), and there were talks that it was going to go online only. So why not pick the most provocative piece from the issue in question and make it your cover so it the issue will sell better at the newstand.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:16 pm

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 6):
!. Have you even read it ?

Yep

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 6):
2. How does it affect YOU ?

I would be better off, but maybe I am not a self centered and hell bent on this country's destruction.

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 6):
3. Do YOU have a better idea ?

I have many better ideas.

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 6):
3. Yeah, I have a marvelous idea ! I plan to vote for Paul & Mitt !

Good for you. Perhaps you think that it is better for the wealthy to keep all the money while cutting needed services, and not doing anyhting to cut the deficit, other than to pray to the almighty for growth,
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:16 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
Let me summarize Ryan's budget for you.
Rich folks: Tax Breaks, and Less Medicare
Middle Class : No Tax Breaks, maybe even a bit more in taxesm and Less Medicare and Social Security
Poor folks : More taxes, less heathcare, less social security.
Balanced Budget: Not anywhere in the foreseeable future.

STOP with the demagoguery and outright lies.

But I'll give you credit, you parrot the party line to a T. Maybe you can replace the mouthbreather Debbie W-S as DNC chair since she's a sinking ship too.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:20 pm

Quoting slider (Reply 9):

STOP with the demagoguery and outright lies.

But I'll give you credit, you parrot the party line to a T. Maybe you can replace the mouthbreather Debbie W-S as DNC chair since she's a sinking ship too.

Those liars at Fox News!!

Fact Check: Ryan budget plan doesn't actually slash the budget

Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade.
Tax and other revenue rises year after year.
The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...plan-doesnt-actually-slash-budget/

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:26 pm



Quoting slider (Reply 9):
STOP with the demagoguery and outright lies.

But I'll give you credit, you parrot the party line to a T. Maybe you can replace the mouthbreather Debbie W-S as DNC chair since she's a sinking ship too.

Lies?
Where> The Congressional Budget office already backed me up. Maybe you are to busy finding low brough instults to read anything other than the Conservative roundhouse's self appreciating backslapping on the budgets

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:36 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
It is a rich get richer, and poor get poorer budget.

The alternative to budget discipline is squalor. People who refuse to do math are the ones who end up poor and asking "why me." The median American taxpayer is like a 450lb man raiding the cookie jar over and over, then crying about his tummy ache. I do feel pity for many people, just not for the average American. Eventually it is time to grow up and accept adult responsibilities, including paying taxes and not relying on "rich" mythology to just take care of everything down the road.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:40 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 12):
The median American taxpayer is like a 450lb man raiding the cookie jar over and over, then crying about his tummy ache. I

It isn't the taxpayer. It is Congress.
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:41 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 12):
Quoting casinterest (Reply 3):
It is a rich get richer, and poor get poorer budget.

The alternative to budget discipline is squalor.

Please remind me: What do tax cuts for the rich have to do with "budget discipline", again...?
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:45 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 12):
Eventually it is time to grow up and accept adult responsibilities, including paying taxes and not relying on "rich" mythology to just take care of everything down the road.

But taxes on the rich are at their lowest level in decades, and when looking at effective tax rates many rich pay a lower percentage than the middle class because they can take advantage of all the tax loopholes and tax havens. The rich are getting richer, the middle class are treading water. I don't understand why there is so much sympathy for the rich when they are doing great.
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:55 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):
What do tax cuts for the rich have to do with "budget discipline", again...?

My take on the Ryan budget is that it begins to control spending. Tax policy is subordinate to that. It is eroding next year's tax spike that is referred to as "tax cuts for the rich." But mainly this is a discussion about spending. No tax policy could meaningfully alter the path created by Obama style limitlesss spending. Coupled with no economic growth, we have no prospect to pay back our debt without harmful inflation. Overall this is a poorer and worse path than a prudent policy would have given us. The main people to suffer from Obama's lack of discipline will be the poor and middle class. Somewhat sophisticated investors like me will be ok.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:29 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 16):
My take on the Ryan budget is that it begins to control spending

By increasing defense spending, and cutting "elsewhere", and then fails to specifically targer loopholes and programs that would be cut.

The revenue would go down under his tax cuts, unless his loopholes pinhole the tax payers somehow, and guess who that will be.?
Let me give you a clue, probably not his millionaire donors and Nascar team owning friends, or folks that can afford 2 to 3 Caddilacs.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:32 pm

Quoting mt99 (Reply 10):
Government spending increases almost every year over the next decade.

Classic Democrat meme if it doesn't grow as fast as they want then it's a cut. If your statement is true then the Democrats are once again lying that the Republicans are cutting the budget.

Quoting mt99 (Reply 10):
The 10-year deficit is still $3 trillion.

Beats $6 trillion in just 4 years.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:48 pm

Quoting Dreadnought (Reply 2):
the Ryan Budget,

Why is anyone really excited about the "Ryan Budget"? It can't pass in its present form, even his own party shunned it in it final draft. It doesn't address the budget problem in any real way. It cuts some $100 billion a year from a budget that is $1 Trillion(!!!) a year out of whack, it count/depends on spending decisions to be made ten years from now!

I want a plan, I want a budget, but it needs to be one that actually addresses the problems, that shrinks expenses (yes, including defense/military), increases tax revenues to reduce the debt, and that can be passed consistently year after year by the Congress (you know that place that is made up of representatives from every state in the nation that aren't all from one party?). It can't be just "one party" or the others vision, it has to be workable between all those involved.

Is it a start, sure it could be.... IF people are open to compromise.... but are they?

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:55 pm

Looks like this Newsweek article may be entirely made up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...l-ferguson-newsweek_n_1810136.html
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:03 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 20):
Looks like this Newsweek article may be entirely made up.

I was particularly shocked to read this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...l-ferguson-newsweek_n_1810136.html

Quoting Huffington Post:
UPDATE: 12:56 p.m. -- Newsweek did not fact-check Ferguson's cover story, according to Dylan Byers, a media reporter at Politico. Byers wrote on Twitter that a Newsweek spokesman said the magazine does not have a fact-checking department, and that "we, like other news organisations today, rely on our writers to submit factually accurate material."

This automatically means that Newsweek has no claim whatsoever to being called a reputable newspaper any more.

I'm stunned. Newsweek had a relevant name once. Seems like it's degenerated to an amateur blog which just happens to be printed on paper.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:10 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
Quoting Huffington Post:
UPDATE: 12:56 p.m. -- Newsweek did not fact-check Ferguson's cover story, according to Dylan Byers, a media reporter at Politico. Byers wrote on Twitter that a Newsweek spokesman said the magazine does not have a fact-checking department, and that "we, like other news organisations today, rely on our writers to submit factually accurate material."

This automatically means that Newsweek has no claim whatsoever to being called a reputable newspaper any more.

Yup.

Couldn't have said it more succinctly that you just did. The only thing that separates any Joe Schmoe's blog from a reputable newspaper in the digital era is a fact-checking editorial department. Newsweek is now just a blog.
 
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:30 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
This automatically means that Newsweek has no claim whatsoever to being called a reputable newspaper any more.

I'm stunned. Newsweek had a relevant name once. Seems like it's degenerated to an amateur blog which just happens to be printed on paper.

Yes, Newsweek switched over many years ago to become more of a tabloid than a good "news magazine". It was a real shame. For awhile it was Time and Newsweek competing to be the best "news magazine. But the modern market forces derailed that sadly.

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:04 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
the magazine does not have a fact-checking department, and that "we, like other news organisations today, rely on our writers to submit factually accurate material."
Quoting Klaus (Reply 21):
I'm stunned. Newsweek had a relevant name once. Seems like it's degenerated to an amateur blog which just happens to be printed on paper.

This in interesting book. He talks about his time pretending to be an "expert" on different news outlets

http://www.amazon.com/Trust-Me-Lying...fessions-Manipulator/dp/159184553X
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Tue Aug 21, 2012 12:03 am

Quoting GEEZER (Reply 6):

3. Do YOU have a better idea ?

Yes. It's called not voting for GOP candidates until that party can demonstrate some social, economic, and neighborly (WRT int'l relations) responsibility.

I know you hate Obama & all, but he's really not that bad, and quite a bit better than "budget" proposals designed specifically to instigate class warfare, without actually solving anything.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 12):
I do feel pity for many people, just not for the average American. Eventually it is time to grow up and accept adult responsibilities, including paying taxes

It is, but this applies to GOP practices as well. Let's not forget that tax breaks are a form of welfare too.

Quoting Klaus (Reply 14):

Please remind me: What do tax cuts for the rich have to do with "budget discipline", again...?

Tax cuts for the rich is how the GOP like to spell entitlement spending. It's really the same thing.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 17):

By increasing defense spending, and cutting "elsewhere", and then fails to specifically targer loopholes and programs that would be cut.

Yup. Flighty's analogy of a 450lb man was right on. The problem is that applies just as much (if not significantly more so) to military spending and tax breaks for the wealthy and middle classes as it would for any other type of spending. Our problem isn't that we spend too much. It's that we can justify ramping up material & staffing costs for military projects that are no longer relevant, but somehow, revitalizing infrastructure at home and offering no-cost healthcare to every citizen will somehow bring about the end of days.

We need to get our priorities in order, & while the Democratic Part is doing a fairly bad job of this, the GOP is straight up trying to tell us "What problem, I don't see a problem..."
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Wed Aug 22, 2012 8:35 pm

Gosh, it seems like the article is riddled with errors and lies. Wish I could say I am shocked, but it is Ferguson's M.O.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08...er-obama-newsweek-cover.html?imw=Y

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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:00 pm

Quoting tugger (Reply 23):
Yes, Newsweek switched over many years ago to become more of a tabloid than a good "news magazine". It was a real shame. For awhile it was Time and Newsweek competing to be the best "news magazine. But the modern market forces derailed that sadly.

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Which is exactly the reason I dropped my subscription to Newsweek

I subscribed for many years because it was a new magazine, but then they totally changed the format and all it became was opinions by various writers.

I read somewhere that they lost a huge number of subscribers because of the format change, best thing to ever happen to Time magazine.

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Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:30 pm

Quoting texan (Reply 26):
Wish I could say I am shocked, but it is Ferguson's M.O.

This is a bit of an aside, but Ferguson always struck me as a Krugman type for the right--people with strong academic pedigrees who disingenuously use these pedigrees/resumes to give their pieces an air of authority--even if the pieces/publications in question have nothing to do with their academic background.
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:59 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Thread starter):

I wonder if President Obama is travelling down that lousy road following in Jimmy Carter's shoes. At least so far, Carter was worse in my opinion than President Obama. I'm wondering if the media is setting him up for being the next Jimmy Carter? Such mudslinging sells papers/magazines when they manage to trash both parties for better or for worse.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:09 pm

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 29):
I'm wondering if the media is setting him up for being the next Jimmy Carter?

To conservatives, he was the worst president since Jimmy Carter the moment he got elected.

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Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 30):
To conservatives, he was the worst president since Jimmy Carter the moment he got elected.

Wrong.

To some conservatives, he was Jimmy Carter the day he was born. In Kenya.


Let's call it like it is for a change - more than 90% of the mudslinging directed at Obama is a straw argument. As in, conservatives make up some loony idea, say the president backs it, then tear down the loony idea. That is the definition of straw arguments. This Newsweek article is proving to be no different, just this time it's cloaked in academic pedigree.
 
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:59 pm

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 29):
At least so far, Carter was worse in my opinion than President Obama.

At least Jimmy Carter loved America.
Can't say the same about Obama.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:11 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
At least Jimmy Carter loved America.
Can't say the same about Obama.

What a strong fact filled rant coming from the person living in Thailand.

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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:16 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 33):
What a strong fact filled rant coming from the person living in Taiwan.

At least you acknowledge that it is fact.

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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:22 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 34):
When did I move to Taiwan?

Fixed that for you, but come on, put up your loveometer test results, because i am sure you have something resemling more than a BS statement. Right?
Probably not.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 35):
put up your loveometer test results

Never heard of such a test and I'm not sure how that relates to an article written by Niall Ferguson.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 36):
Never heard of such a test and I'm not sure how that relates to an article written by Niall Ferguson.

3 posts in and you already forgot what you were talking about?
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:35 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):
Can't say the same about Obama.

Okay so why doesn't Obama love America?

And do you think Mitt Romney is a better American than Obama because Mitt was to much of a coward to serve his country in Vietnam though he supported the war and instead went to France serve as a "missionary" for his faith and that he said he loved France. Of course Mitt having the "mind" of a tax dodger moved his money to offshore accounts like Bermuda and Switzerland. Obama unlike unlike Romney didn't move out of his country voluntarily because he was a coward while being a hypocrite about the war in Vietnam.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:40 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 37):
3 posts in and you already forgot what you were talking about?

I was simply responding to a comment by Zippyjet and you flew off the handle and making innuendos about where I live.
I'd like to keep this on topic. I agree with Niall Ferguson. Obama should hit the road.
You have a problem with that?

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 38):
And do you think Mitt Romney

Umm, I was simply responding to a comment by Zippyjet about Jimmy Carter. Why are you dragging Mitt Romney in to this?
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:51 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
I'd like to keep this on topic. I agree with Niall Ferguson. Obama should hit the road.
You have a problem with that?

I do. I have a problem with folks that pass about BS without factual support. You agreeing with Niall pretty much keeps this on topic.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:58 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 40):
I do.

Tough. Deal with it.
You're always going to hear different opinions from people you don't agree with. That's life.

Quoting casinterest (Reply 40):
I have a problem with folks that pass about BS without factual support.

Comes up in every thread about this President and it's never changed your mind or anyone's mind. So why waste time digging up articles because when presented with facts, all you do in the end is insult the person. It get's old quick.
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Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:05 pm

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all you do in the end is insult the person. It get's old quick.

So you insult the POTUS, and then act all insulted. How sad or convienient for you? Your act gets just as old.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:06 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 39):
Umm, I was simply responding to a comment by Zippyjet about Jimmy Carter. Why are you dragging Mitt Romney in to this?

Because Obama did not run from his country unlike Romney and more importantly such a statement implies conservatives have lost the argument a long time ago and have given up on a rational argument on why Obama should not be reelected. Obama laking patriotism like Obama being Kenyan born or he being a Muslim or a com/soc is a null argument, a "yabba dabba doo" argument to the people who will never see Obama other than the adjectives listed above.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:09 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 42):
So you insult the POTUS,

Well of course. He is a public figure.
No need to get angry at me for not sharing your opinion. Plus insulting other members is in violation of the forum rules.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:12 pm

Quoting 2707200X (Reply 43):
such a statement implies conservatives

Don't know what to tell you on that. I'm not a conservative and I can't speak for conservatives either.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:15 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 44):
No need to get angry at me for not sharing your opinion. Plus insulting other members is in violation of the forum rules

I didn't insult you. Just asked for facts, which you seem to lack the last few days. If you take that as an insult , so sorry.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:26 pm

Quoting casinterest (Reply 46):
I didn't insult you. Just asked for facts, which you seem to lack the last few days. If you take that as an insult , so sorry.

People get sick & tired of arguing. In threads where me & others take the time out to give you "facts", it ends up in a 200 post thread that goes off topic and ends up getting locked. Stop pretending that "facts" haven't been presented in the past. You where I stand so you shouldn't be surprised or fly off the handle if I take a few cheap-shots at the President.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Sat Aug 25, 2012 4:31 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 32):



Carter put up a good act. He came off as a good old boy. Secret Service agents mentioned Carter's desire to carry his own luggage and other normal activities. When the camera was rolling holier than though JC lifted his bags. When the cameras were off he ordered around the staff like kids in a sweatshop. Carter was behind us giving away the Panama Canal, was in bead with Saudi and other Arab big money to support his peanut farm. And then there was his white trash redneck racist bro Billy Bob or whatever his name was. Carter was King Midas in reverse most of the stuff he touched in his four years turned to failure.

Both President's Obama and JC were able to get elected because things were so bad when they ran. The GOP was battered after the spectacle of Watergate. Had Elvis been a Dem and ran for POTUS he would have won.

And of course following the eight years of failure and misery that was "W" almost guaranteed anyone one running as a Democrat would win election. And, anybody following the debacle that was "W" was so far behind the 8 ball in terms of this country being a Cluster F that whether it was Mccain and the bimbo Palin or as we see with Obama either would have merited a magazine cover saying hit the road!

I still remember that issue of Rolling Stone magazine back in 2008 with a characterture of "W" wearing a Dunce cap and the cover titled: George W. Bush: The Worst President!

Go ahead people elect Mitt the corporate raider Mormon and see what becomes of our once great nation.
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RE: Newsweek Cover: 'Hit The Road Barack'

Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:28 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 48):
I still remember that issue of Rolling Stone magazine back in 2008 with a characterture of "W" wearing a Dunce cap and the cover titled: George W. Bush: The Worst President!

...and that is still true today. George W. Bush created the perfect storm that allowed Obama to get in to office.

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 48):
Go ahead people elect Mitt the corporate raider Mormon and see what becomes of our once great nation.

If he is elected and turns out to be a poor leader, then I'll be voting him out as well.
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