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Jags Leaving JAX?

Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:45 pm

Per a report from the "Globe and Mail" the Jags may be scheduling "multiple" games in London for 2013:

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A person familiar with the situation says the Jacksonville Jaguars are going to play multiple home games in London beginning in 2013.

The person spoke on condition of anonymity because the NFL and the team are waiting to announce the deal Tuesday in Jacksonville.

The Jaguars scheduled a news conference, but declined to say what it was concerning.

New owner Shad Khan has made it clear he wants to play games overseas in hopes of increasing the team’s brand globally. He even mentioned it during his introductory news conference last year.

The St. Louis Rams had been scheduled to play a home game in London in 2013 and 2014, but they pulled out last week, citing a need to focus on lease negotiations and ease fan discontent.
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While 1 or 2 games in London could work well, given the ex-pat Americans in London, is this a precursor to moving the whole kaboodle to LA in 2014, where it's likely he would make even more money. And making money is the name of the game in the NFL.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Mon Aug 20, 2012 8:55 pm

Quoting connies4ever (Thread starter):
While 1 or 2 games in London could work well, given the ex-pat Americans in London, is this a precursor to moving the whole kaboodle to LA in 2014, where it's likely he would make even more money. And making money is the name of the game in the NFL.

IIRC I think it is the Rams that might move back to LA if the lease deal in St. Louis goes bad.

I think if LA is going to get a team it needs to be one in the NFC because the Chargers are nearby and it would be similar to the San Fran and Oakland scenario.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Tue Aug 21, 2012 1:00 am

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 1):
I think if LA is going to get a team it needs to be one in the NFC because the Chargers are nearby and it would be similar to the San Fran and Oakland scenario.

Rumors have it, over the last couple years, that the Raiders are looking to move back to L.A.

Quoting connies4ever (Thread starter):
Jags Leaving JAX?

Nah, I think they'll stay. I doubt that the NFL in London on a regular basis would be successful. That is a money losing agenda, IMO.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:40 am

Quoting connies4ever (Thread starter):
While 1 or 2 games in London could work well, given the ex-pat Americans in London, is this a precursor to moving the whole kaboodle to LA in 2014, where it's likely he would make even more money. And making money is the name of the game in the NFL.

It's ONE game per year for the next 4 years.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 2):
I doubt that the NFL in London on a regular basis would be successful.

Correct. Travel costs alone would be astronomical. Could you imagine what additional costs would be needed to play half of your games overseas? Any midwest or west games would be multiple overnights and upgraded equipment to fly. And the teams traveling there wouldn't be happy either.
I easily predict the "away" teams traveling to play JAX in London will be from the east coast.

Plus, who over there is ranting and raving for an NFL team? There is some interest, but enough to support a full season?
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 1:51 am

I can definitely see the Jags leaving, JAX is similar to Southern Georgia in that College football rules.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 2:00 am

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 3):
Travel costs alone would be astronomical. Could you imagine what additional costs would be needed to play half of your games overseas? Any midwest or west games would be multiple overnights and upgraded equipment to fly.

The logistics could work. The London team would probably have two four game home stands and two four game road trips as well as probably having a practice facility in the US. Games played in the UK could fit into the 1 pm Eastern block on Sundays, although prime time games would be problematic. Teams travelling to play a road game in London would have a longer week on at least one side of the trip. Probably have their bye week before or after and then possibly a Thursday game (which is now season long) on the other side. It could be play Thursday in the US, play over a later on Sunday in London, and then a week off after.

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 3):
Plus, who over there is ranting and raving for an NFL team? There is some interest, but enough to support a full season?

Not enough. Maybe do a couple games a year or have a game in London and then maybe an additional game somewhere else in Europe, but there isn't enough support for a team.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 4:03 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
The logistics could work.

In theory, yes. But the costs outweigh the benefits. I wonder how much of a loss the NFL had to take the last time they had a game there not too long ago. I am sure there was a significant loss in revenue and that is why there are no games in London this year. I doubt the Olympics played a part in that.

I think having a game or two in London, or any game at all is really pointless and stupid, to put it mildly..... And there is not really much of a fan base over there anyway.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 5:52 am

oh, for the love of....

The Raiders will never ever EVER... let me repeat E-V-E-R leave Oakland. Ever. Period.

Ever.

I thought the whole "Raiders thing" was stupid but I now undersand and believe the Raiders will never ever leave Oakland ever. I don't like the Raiders. I am always a Bucs fan because I don't care for American football. Because of my love of the Canucks, I understand the Raiders thing.

The Jags will probably leave JAX for LAX. For a few years. Then end up in someplace wierd. Like London or Toronto or Mexico City. LAX is not really an NFL city. The people aren't really into NFL. College football yes. But NFL? meh....
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:09 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
The Raiders will never ever EVER... let me repeat E-V-E-R leave Oakland. Ever. Period.

Keep them. And their poser fans too.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
Because of my love of the Canucks

Not poser fans. They actually lit the city on fire. Morons, but not posers.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
LAX is not really an NFL city. The people aren't really into NFL.

Part of the issue for Los Angeles is that a lot of the people there aren't from there so they already have loyalties to another team. Large expat populations can fill stadiums, but they probably aren't buying season tickets or driving TV ratings.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Wed Aug 22, 2012 6:29 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):

The Raiders will never ever EVER... let me repeat E-V-E-R leave Oakland. Ever. Period.

Why not? They did once already!
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:20 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 7):
oh, for the love of....

The Raiders will never ever EVER... let me repeat E-V-E-R leave Oakland. Ever. Period.

Ever.

They left once.... it did not stop them the first time. And it won't stop them a second time. You never know...... Keep that in mind.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:36 pm

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 6):
I am sure there was a significant loss in revenue and that is why there are no games in London this year.

Erm, yes there is. Patriots "@" Rams at Wembley, I've got a ticket.
 
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:58 pm

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 11):
Erm, yes there is. Patriots "@" Rams at Wembley

Well, knock me down with a feather! I stand corrected. I hope the Patriots intimidate you Brits over there, considering the logo that New England uses..... LOL!

Quoting danielmyatt (Reply 11):
I've got a ticket.

Enjoy the game even though I don't agree with the NFL in London. The NFL shouldn't be doing this, IMO.
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RE: Jags Leaving JAX?

Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:25 am

Despite being a huge American football fan, and Patriots fan for that matter, I agree that they shouldn't bring the NFL to London or the UK permanently.
I went just the other day to the Eagles @ Patriots game in Foxboro, and despite it being a meaningless pre season game the gameday experience was totally different to anything you get in the UK, with the tailgating, etc. I just don't think that could be recreated over here with people that are possibly new to the sport and are most likely football (soccer) or rugby fans who do things a totally different way to football fans in the US.
They way they're doing it now is perfect IMO, and long may it continue.

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