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Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:45 pm

Actually, I should have said "some more ignorance" but ran out of space in the title.

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Hank Williams Jr., whose "Monday Night Football" theme song was pulled by ESPN last year after he compared President Barack Obama to Adolf Hitler, lashed out at the president during a Labor Day weekend concert.

"We've got a Muslim for a president who hates cowboys, hates cowgirls, hates fishing, hates farming, loves gays, and we hate him!" Williams reportedly told the crowd at the Stockyards Music Festival in Fort Worth, Texas, on Sunday.

  

The Right doesn't need "friends" like Mr. Hank Williams! Outside of the Muslim crap (listen up, Williams, the man has stated clearly and unequivocally that he is not a Muslim!), why does Williams think Obama hates cowboys/cowgirls, fishing or farming, and why does he think Obama should not love gay people?

Ref: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/h...president-130155210--politics.html
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:06 pm

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
why does Williams think Obama hates cowboys/cowgirls

There is absolutely nothing wrong with hating the Cowboys (also sometimes called the Cowgirls, particularly when they play hilariously poorly). I am proud to support the president on this issue.   

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:11 pm

Sounds like average Republican to me.
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:25 pm

If President Obama hate the Cowboys, I may spend a milli-second or so reconsidering my vote.

Ok, the feeling has passed.
Oh, I also spent another millisecond or so reconsidering my vote when I found out he drinks home-brewed beer, but lost that feeling when I found out that the White House staff actually did the brewing.

Got a news clipping on my FB recently; can't cut and paste, so I'll just re-write it:

Breaking News
DALLAS(TX) - Dallas Cowboys football practice was delayed nearly two hours today after a player reported an unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. Head Coach Jason Garrett immediately suspended practice and called the police and federal investigators. After a complete analysis, FBI forensics experts determined that the white substance, unknown to players, was the GOAL LINE. Practice resumed after special agents decided the team was unlikely to encounter the substance again this season.  

Let the Cowboy bashing begin.

Oh yeah, and Hank Williams Jr. lost relevancy, if he had any, years ago.

See this thread for my feelings on celebrities and their political beliefs.

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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:21 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 2):
Sounds like average Republican to me.

Unfortunately he does support the stereotype.

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
Oh, I also spent another millisecond or so reconsidering my vote when I found out he drinks home-brewed beer, but lost that feeling when I found out that the White House staff actually did the brewing.

On the other hand, if he had made his own, half the folks here would say things like "shouldn't the leader of the free world be doing more important things?".

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
FBI forensics experts determined that the white substance, unknown to players, was the GOAL LINE.

LOL! Now you've gone and kicked the bee's nest!
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:49 pm

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
Breaking News
DALLAS(TX) - Dallas Cowboys football practice was delayed nearly two hours today after a player reported an unknown white powdery substance on the practice field. Head Coach Jason Garrett immediately suspended practice and called the police and federal investigators. After a complete analysis, FBI forensics experts determined that the white substance, unknown to players, was the GOAL LINE. Practice resumed after special agents decided the team was unlikely to encounter the substance again this season.

I heard that they also got a little spooked by these mysterious objects at the end of the field:





As for Williams' tirade, I guess you just have to consider the source. What's kind of comical about it is that I just can't picture anyone actually hating cowboys or farmers..."Yeah, you know those guys who lead the cattle around, I F-ing HATE them. They're almost as bad as those bastards who grow all the food!"

Hate fishing? Yeah, I can see that.
 
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:56 pm

It's nice to stand on moral high ground with the knowledge that no Democrat has ever said something rhetorical, isn't it? To feel so superior and smug, it really is quite a good feeling.

Oh, wait.....

Sep 3, 2012 7:17pm

Calif. Dem Says Ryan Lies Like Nazi’s Goebbels

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -The chairman of the California delegation to the Democrats’ convention was criticized by both parties for comparing Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan to the Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.
In an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle on Saturday, John Burton said, “They lie and they don’t care if people think they lie. Joseph Goebbels . It’s the big lie, you keep repeating it.” Goebbels was the minister of propaganda during Hitler’s Nazi regime.
 
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 4:58 pm

As a followup, the fine leader of the Democratic party in the largest state of the union has been sent home from the DNC for a root canal.
 
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:05 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 6):
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -The chairman of the California delegation to the Democrats’ convention was criticized by both parties for comparing Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan to the Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels.
In an interview with the San Francisco Chronicle on Saturday, John Burton said, “They lie and they don’t care if people think they lie. Joseph Goebbels . It’s the big lie, you keep repeating it.” Goebbels was the minister of propaganda during Hitler’s Nazi regime.

See, the difference is that comparing Obama to Hitler is not a valid comparison.

Comparing the RNC's strategy of telling outright lies over and over and over again until they are believed is actually validly compared to Goebbels's techniques.

Fact Check, a non-partisan source, seems to ding the Republicans at a 5:1 ratio to the Democrats lately.

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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:17 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 8):
Comparing the RNC's strategy of telling outright lies over and over and over again until they are believed is actually validly compared to Goebbels's techniques.

Yeah, but when you drop Goebbels' name, it's pretty clear what your broader point is. There are ways to say the same thing without using Nazi connotations.

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:25 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Yeah, but when you drop Goebbels' name, it's pretty clear what your broader point is. There are ways to say the same thing without using Nazi connotations.

Agreed. It was tasteless. I'll grant that. But if someone is going to compare people to the Nazis, I'd like that comparison to have some validity.
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:27 pm

Quoting mham001 (Reply 6):
To feel so superior and smug, it really is quite a good feeling.

Where are you getting that from?

Just because I feel Williams is displaying huge amounts of ignorance here doesn't mean I think anyone of the Dem persuasion can't/won't do the same.

Feel free to call out any ignorant behavior from either side that you feel like commenting on, that's what a discussion forum is for.

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:02 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 4):
On the other hand, if he had made his own, half the folks here would say things like "shouldn't the leader of the free world be doing more important things?".

At this point in his administration, I would rather that he sat in the White House basement perfecting his recipe than just about anything else he's doing.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 5):
I heard that they also got a little spooked by these mysterious objects at the end of the field:

I'm gonna save that one for mid-season.
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:32 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 9):
Yeah, but when you drop Goebbels' name, it's pretty clear what your broader point is. There are ways to say the same thing without using Nazi connotations.

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:44 pm

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At this point in his administration, I would rather that he sat in the White House basement perfecting his recipe than just about anything else he's doing.

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:48 pm

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?  

Wow, I answered "Yes" to your question, but I'll admit, that kinda blew me away... I find it bad that this isn't coming from a random cultist weirdo but a big celebrity... what are the ramifications (or lack of them) gonna be? Unbelievable...
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:12 pm

Nowhere else in the world is political debate at the level it is in the US. And especially from the Republicans - the way they take things and spin it, eg "You didn't build that" and now this Goebbels business - that quote is always attributed to Goebbels - nowhere does John Burton say Ryan is like a Nazi or even like Goebbels, merely pointing out Goebbels truism - "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed" - is alive and well. But in the hands of Republican spin doctors, this is the same as calling Ryan an actual Nazi, and hence analogous to the ghastly Hank Williams Jr saying Obama is a Muslim (which he did in fact say).

This madness that has taken over America is so ruinous to America's standing in the world. British, Colombian, Kiwi, Japanese, Turkish, Chilean etc etc political discourse is not like this. "I disagree with my opponent" - yes. "My opponent is a bigger threat to this country than Nazi Germany or the USSR under Stalin" - no (thank you Newt Gingrich - the "intellectual" of the Republican party, a great thinker, or so I repeatedly read). Everyone in the world is watching this catastrophe. And they can't believe what they're hearing / seeing.

And I might add that evolution, climate science, socialised medicine are settled issues outside Saudi / Pakistan / Congo, gay rights too. Come on Republicans, time to join the 19th century, don't you think?

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:15 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
And especially from the Republicans
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
But in the hands of Republican spin doctors
Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
Come on Republicans, time to join the 19th century

To be fair, I wouldn't really consider Hank Williams a prominent Republican leader, but yeah, the GOP has really been pissing me off lately. I've even seen a great deal of conservatives/right-of-center folks pissed off at the party
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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:38 pm

Quoting Acheron (Reply 13):
Baghdad Bob?.

One of the people I was thinking of, yes.

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:55 pm

I just wanted to take this opportunity to say "screw you" to every single one of you for your lewd and unnecessary comments!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!

  

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Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:58 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 19):
I just wanted to take this opportunity to say "screw you" to every single one of you for your lewd and unnecessary comments!

GO COWBOYS!!!!!

  

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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:00 am

Quoting pvjin (Reply 2):
Sounds like average Republican to me.


Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. If not, well so be it. I find Democrats very closed minded in many of their views.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 5):
I heard that they also got a little spooked by these mysterious objects at the end of the field:


           

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 17):
To be fair, I wouldn't really consider Hank Williams a prominent Republican leader, but yeah, the GOP


Exactly. Why is this even news? He can see whatever in the world he wants to say as long as it puts no one in danger and does not threaten anyone. Who cares what a guy that 95% of Americans who know him only know him for one Monday night theme song says.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
and spin it, eg "You didn't build that"


Would not say that one is was spun much. Unfortunately politics in the U.S. sometimes is a circus show.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 17):
I've even seen a great deal of conservatives/right-of-center folks pissed off at the party


I consider myself right of center and I do hate a lot of the garbage that the GOP talks about. I also hate a lot of the garbage the Dems put out. But President Obama is so far away from center I say use everything possible to get him out of here if possible.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:09 am

Quoting pvjin (Reply 2):
Sounds like average Republican to me.

Not quite. The average Republican is just a normal person. It's the extremists that makes the news, and make people think they are the "average".

Same goes for Dems as well. The extremists make the news.
 
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:22 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 11):
Just because I feel Williams is displaying huge amounts of ignorance here doesn't mean I think anyone of the Dem persuasion can't/won't do the same.

And yet you start a thread about it the same day the leader of the largest state Democratic party is doing pretty much the same thing. Who cares about a singer? All these spouting entertainers are idi*ts and most of them are liberal.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
Nowhere else in the world is political debate at the level it is in the US.

Utter nonsense. Rhetoric no better than the OP's example.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:28 am

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 12):
At this point in his administration, I would rather that he sat in the White House basement perfecting his recipe than just about anything else he's doing.

Exactly what has he been doing that is so horrible that Congress has not had the actual control of? The only two things I can think of are the Justice Department "policy implementation" for certain illegals, and the entire Holder issue. But those don't encompass the "everything" you are implying with your comment. Neither are particularly worse that what many other Presidents have had during their tenures.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 17):
To be fair, I wouldn't really consider Hank Williams a prominent Republican leader, but yeah, the GOP has really been pissing me off lately. I've even seen a great deal of conservatives/right-of-center folks pissed off at the party.

It's the hyperbole, the "I don't smell my own crap and won't admit it smells" ignoring of problems, failures, and issues within the Republican party itself that really bothers me. I mean seriously take the log out of your own eye before you point out the log in the other persons eye. And allow for compromise, especially since you will need it from the opposing party in order to do anything productive.

Although the Presidency is seen as the penultimate office to win, you do as much for the nation within the Congress as anywhere else. In my opinion that is where the real problem has been the past ten or so years far more than the White House. Fix that, get that working and you can really benefit the country.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:29 am

Unfortunately, this is the thing that gets people riled up these days. No one wants to watch an hour long interview with two college professors who used measured language when debating. Instead we have to hear Republicans call Democrats gay socialists and listen to Democrats call Republicans class warmongers. After all, that's what plays in Peoria.

I sometimes wonder how the candidates themselves stomach this kind of stuff. Mitt Romney spent four years at Harvard, lived in Massachusetts and worked with some of the smartest people in the world on Wall Street. (Yes, they're pretty smart over there.) When idiots like this support his campaign, albeit indirectly, he must wonder what he's sunk to.

Same go for Democrats. Bill Clinton, for example, went to Georgetown, Oxford and Yale, then was a governor and president. What do you think his social circles look like? A bunch of Mitt Romneys. Calling him elitist must strike him as a bit unreasonable.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
And I might add that evolution, climate science, socialised medicine are settled issues outside Saudi / Pakistan / Congo, gay rights too.

Well, unfortunately, gay rights isn't a settled issue. Most jurisdictions in the world still do not give a recognition equal to marriage to same sex couples. In the United States, roughly half of our population resides in a jurisdiction which awards some sort of recognition to same sex couples.

I also can never really figure out why many Europeans are so troubled by our healthcare system. The simple fact is that most people have access to good healthcare. The problem lies with a sizable minority that doesn't. I can see people getting riled up about international affairs, but who cares about another country's domestic affairs unless it's truly unspeakable, like Saudi Arabia beheading gays?

After all, I pity the French and Swiss, who have banned ancient religious fashion and architectural symbols, respectively, but I don't seem as distressed as this forum's Europeans are about our healthcare. After all, the world has ~ 200 governments because expectations vary.
 
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:42 am

Someone should replace the word Muslim and replace it with Jew then read it back to Mr. Williams and ask him how it sounds.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:59 am

Quoting LMP737 (Reply 26):
Someone should replace the word Muslim and replace it with Jew then read it back to Mr. Williams and ask him how it sounds.

Sadly, if it isn't replaced with "Christian" I'm sure a lot of people would feel the same way! But I agree, it looks like Muslims are the new Jews and gays are the new blacks. Luckily for the latter, we hear more hate for gays but overall public opinion seems to be swaying
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:59 am

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
He can see whatever in the world he wants to say as long as it puts no one in danger and does not threaten anyone.

The way free speech works is that he's free to say whatever he wants to say, and I'm free to comment on what he said. Personally I find his ignorance about Obama's religion and his blatant anti-gay statements made in front of a large crowd to be pathetic. See, that's how free speech works!

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Who cares what a guy that 95% of Americans who know him only know him for one Monday night theme song says.

The answer is right there in your question: because so many Americans do know him!

Quoting mham001 (Reply 23):
And yet you start a thread about it the same day the leader of the largest state Democratic party is doing pretty much the same thing.

I don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps if you started a thread about it, we'd have a good place to discuss it, and as a side benefit, you might generate a few page loads and a few clicks to help fund a.net too! There's the "start thread" button on the top of the thread index, pretty self explanatory after that. If not, reply here and I'm sure you'll be helped.

Quoting aa757first (Reply 25):
Mitt Romney spent four years at Harvard, lived in Massachusetts and worked with some of the smartest people in the world on Wall Street. (Yes, they're pretty smart over there.) When idiots like this support his campaign, albeit indirectly, he must wonder what he's sunk to.

Same go for Democrats. Bill Clinton, for example, went to Georgetown, Oxford and Yale, then was a governor and president.

Going to a good school doesn't make one intelligent. For instance GWB has a Yale BA and a Harvard MBA that he acquired during the Vietnam years, yet somehow he seemed to have learned nothing about how an unnecessary war can suck the life blood out of a nation. Romney seemed to learn a lot about how to enrich himself at the expense of others, and not much else. I doubt a conversation with either could be called intellectually stimulating, IMHO.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:22 am

Quoting Revelation (Thread starter):
The Right doesn't need "friends" like Mr. Hank Williams! Outside

In other words, a celebrity not famous for their intellect, smarts, or intelligence says something really stupid and/or ignorant. This is a big deal because?

Quoting fr8mech (Reply 3):
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:00 am

Quoting us330 (Reply 29):
In other words, a celebrity not famous for their intellect, smarts, or intelligence says something really stupid and/or ignorant. This is a big deal because?

Given that Romney likes to egg on birthers by telling birther jokes, it's pretty hard to find that line between intelligence and ignorance.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:06 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 30):
Given that Romney likes to egg on birthers by telling birther jokes, it's pretty hard to find that line between intelligence and ignorance.

That was a harmless joke... didn't President Obama himself make a joke about his birth certificate a few months ago? I don't believe Romney has made any serious comments to suggest he's a birther...
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:15 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 31):
That was a harmless joke...

Yes, it was a joke, but given the context of this discussion, my question is: was it intelligent or ignorant to tell that kind of joke?

Put another way, would it be intelligent for Obama to tell a polygamy joke, even if he told it in a forum where he knew he'd get laughs?
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:18 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 28):
I don't know what you're talking about. Perhaps if you started a thread about it, we'd have a good place to discuss it, and as a side benefit, you might generate a few page loads and a few clicks to help fund a.net too! There's the "start thread" button on the top of the thread index, pretty self explanatory after that. If not, reply here and I'm sure you'll be helped.

If you don't know what I'm talking about then you are as uninformed as your target is ignorant. If we all started threads when an entertainer said something some feel ignorant, there wouldn't be much room here for anything else. A powerful politician on the other hand gets a free pass though as long as he's on 'our' side....
 
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:22 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 32):
Put another way, would it be intelligent for Obama to tell a polygamy joke, even if he told it in a forum where he knew he'd get laughs?

well point taken, but I'd see that more as a poke at Mormons, whereas (at least in my eyes) I saw Romney making fun of the BIRTHERS. Either way, I don't see it as a big deal, didn't really blow up too much thankfully
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:45 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 33):
If you don't know what I'm talking about then you are as uninformed as your target is ignorant. If we all started threads when an entertainer said something some feel ignorant, there wouldn't be much room here for anything else.

Ok, now you're the "Thread Police"?

Quoting mham001 (Reply 33):
A powerful politician on the other hand gets a free pass though as long as he's on 'our' side....

Ok, now a.net members have an "Equal Time Requirement"?

If you want to bring something up, go ahead.

If I want to bring something up, I will.

If no one cares, it'll sink to the bottom of the page and be gone quick enough.

The way it works is that as long as it's within the forum rules, the members are the "Thread Police", not you...

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 34):
I'd see that more as a poke at Mormons, whereas (at least in my eyes) I saw Romney making fun of the BIRTHERS.

I heard a sound bite of him telling the joke, and I didn't interpret it that way at all. My initial reaction was that he was making fun of Obama having to provide a birth certificate to get (most of) the birthers to shut up. Others have interpreted it as an anti-immigrant joke, with some casting it in that light as a right wing "dog whistle", meaning its real target was the immigrants, not Obama.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 34):
Either way, I don't see it as a big deal, didn't really blow up too much thankfully

I'm also glad it didn't blow up.
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:31 pm

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Not sure if this is sarcasm or not. If not, well so be it. I find Democrats very closed minded in many of their views

No doubt some of them are. That's not the point is it?
The rest of the world do not look on in disbelief, or take any notice of, the expected ebb and flow of normal political discourse.
It is noticed however when US politicians deny the basic tenets of science, which has now morphed into a medieval idea of how a human female reproductive system responds to rape, quite apart from the other 'gems' they have run their mouths off about in this area.
This seems to be from just one side of the US political divide.

You simply do not get this stuff in other first world democracies.

Even their candidate, who lest we forget once held positions and implemented areas of social policy that should make Tea Party oddballs call him 'Stalin' or add a Hitler moustache to his image too.

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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:46 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 2):
Sounds like average Republican to me.

Very tolerant and non judgemental doncha think?
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:53 pm

Quoting GDB (Reply 36):
It is noticed however when US politicians deny the basic tenets of science, which has now morphed into a medieval idea of how a human female reproductive system responds to rape, quite apart from the other 'gems' they have run their mouths off about in this area.
This seems to be from just one side of the US political divide.

You simply do not get this stuff in other first world democracies.

The republican party over the past twenty years or so has been gradually going off the reservation as the saying goes here. More than a few old school republicans have said as much.
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:03 am

Hank Williams Jr. statement about Obama hating "cowboys/cowgirls fishing farming" kind of reminds me of Glenn Becks statement on Obama having a "deep-seeded hatred of white people or the white culture". Of-course Obama never said he hates cowboys, fishermen or farmers but Hank Williams Jr. knows that much of his fan base like himself is not just that bright and his fan base "whats left and the new ones" will feed of what he says as gospel, why believe anybody else.

Since Hank says Obama loves gays, I wonder how Hank Williams really feels gays and since gays are mostly associated with the urban community and builders of urban renewal I wonder how he really feels about others living in an urban city environment and all of young and not so young optimistic people those who think Americas days ahead will be better than the reminiscence of the good-old days of long ago.

Chuck Norris and his "thousand years of darkness" can also join on what Alec Baldwin calls on his tweet about Hank Williams Jr. A broken-down, senile, racist coot.
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:50 pm

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 16):
nowhere does John Burton say Ryan is like a Nazi or even like Goebbels, merely pointing out Goebbels truism - "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed" - is alive and well.

I have to agree with this. I've heard and read this infamous quote in a wide array of contexts.
 
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:28 pm

Quoting AM744 (Reply 40):
I've heard and read this infamous quote in a wide array of contexts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie says it probably originates in Hitler's Mein Kampf

Quote:

But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice.
All this was inspired by the principle--which is quite true within itself--that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

-- Adolf Hitler , Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X

but was adopted by Goebbels:

Quote:

Later, Joseph Goebbels put forth a slightly different theory which has come to be more commonly associated with the expression "big lie."
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RE: Hank Williams: Are You Ready For Some Ignorance?

Tue Sep 11, 2012 9:35 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 1):
There is absolutely nothing wrong with hating the Cowboys

I believe ol' Bosephus mis-understood. Obama hates THE Cowboys - he's a Bears fan after all.  

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