|Quoting baldwin471 (Reply 8):|
I think that is a pretty flawed system. Why kill a man when you can injure him to the point to which he can not injure you? I suppose the centre mass is the biggest target, but if the officer was close enough to the bloke that he thought he could've been stabbed, then he should have a good enough aim to incapacitate him without going for the torso. Maybe i'm being naive, as we never have these stories in the UK (Not US bashing by the way, i love the place). I do think police having guns is a bad idea though, especially if they can't hit an arm from 6 feet.
If you are not trying to kill then you don't use a gun. Simple. Guns are for killing / incapacitating but pepperspray, tasers, batons, and even the officers' fists are used for less than lethal measures. Guns aren't at all for disabling body parts... pistols seem very self-explanatory but you'd be surprised at how extremely difficult it is to shoot them. The first time I shot a pistol I couldn't hit a target a few feet in front of me. Trained cops obviously have more training but it is NOTHING like the BS
you see in the movies. Shoot a pistol and see for yourself.
Then if you have police departments setting SOPs for shooting arms, what happens when an officer accidentally shoots someone in the face? It will be a legal disaster.
You don't want your duty weapon not loaded with real bullets in case you'd need it. Not talking about the wheelchair guy, it's just a police thing in general. It needs to be readily accessible ready for deadly force. Instead of rubber bullets you have pepper spray, tasers, etc.
Now keep in mind, I'm in no way excusing anything. I'm just explaining why the commonly misunderstood use of firearms disabling body parts doesn't work, and the options for less than lethal measures. This is true for the US, but I'm pretty sure it is the same in most western countries. Guns are absolutely for killing/incapacitating... NOT anything else. Other measures like pepper spray and tasers are for threats not involving death or seriously bodily harm
. I'm sure if you google it, the only place you'll see an officer (following SOP) shooting someone in the arm or something would be in a movie. Could be wrong, but that's how it is in all the American law enforcement agencies I've heard about. (I'm a Criminal Justice major so I know a lot about it.)
Further more, notice when an officer draws his/her firearm... it's very strict. You have to be in a situation where you think death or serious bodily harm will result. You can't get someone out of a car at gunpoint because they don't like the speeding ticket (unless you can substantiate you think there is a threat I mentioned.)
To summarize and for those that skipped to the bottom of my post: guns are for killing and incapacitating only!!! It is not inhumane because other methods are to be used in less major situations. In fact, using a gun for a situation that only requires a taser or pepper spray will get a cop in trouble. This does not take into account "what ifs..." if the police officer is being reasonable
and think he's in grave danger, it doesn't matter if in the end something turns out to be a toy gun