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Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:41 pm

I think that Jerry Sandusky got off lightly. He should have been given life in prison. Hopefully his cell mate will do to him what he did to those young boys.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:54 pm

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):
I think that Jerry Sandusky got off lightly. He should have been given life in prison.

He basically did get life. The judge was pretty clear about that.

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The sentence imposed, Cleland said, "has the unmistakable impact of saying the rest of your life."
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 10:57 pm

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):
He should have been given life in prison.

When you're 68 years old, 30-60 years IS life in prison.

So no, I don't think he got off lightly, he got exactly what he deserved.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Wed Oct 10, 2012 11:50 pm

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):
Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Not yet, but I'm almost positive he'll end up being some bull's bee-otch in the big house.

He'll get to re-live that infamous shower scene, but from a different angle.

Hopefully he'll get raped as many times as he's raped others.

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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:06 am

He's a child molester in prison... for the rest of his life (unless he lives to be 98 or 128 if he doesn't get parole)... he's not going to enjoy the rest of his life, I can assure you (child molesters are hated by inmates)
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:49 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 4):
I can assure you (child molesters are hated by inmates)

Nah, I'm sure they'll be kind to him.

They'll say helpful things like "It's shower time, Jerry - don't forget the soap!"
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:54 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 3):
Not yet, but I'm almost positive he'll end up being some bull's bee-otch in the big house.

I want to say that after he was found guilty he didn't understand why he wasn't in the main jail area. To me, that would be an indication of just how sick and twisted he is if he doesn't understand why he would be in danger.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 5):
They'll say helpful things like "It's shower time, Jerry - don't forget the soap!"

Just some rhythmic slapping sounds. And some horseplay, you know, boys will be boys.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:17 am

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):
I think that Jerry Sandusky got off lightly. He should have been given life in prison.

Do you think 68 year old Jerry Sandusky is going to live to 98-128?

Pretty unlikely. Especially with, you know, how child rapists are treated in prison.

But I see the same thing has already been said.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:25 am

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):



Chances are there's a shiv or pecker erect in his near future. From what I've read and understand on jail house culture
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:38 am

It is too bad that he wasn't caught, tried and convicted 15-20 years ago and got a 50 year sentence. He was able to get away with his crimes for at least 30 years so no sentence will be sufficient for the obscene damage he did to those then kids who have to live with the abuse for all their lives which could be 60-70 years.
As much as many of us want him to be raped in prison like he did to those boys, better would be to be put into solidarity, alone with no human contact but his guards, no tv, no radio, a bare single cell in the darkest place in the prison serving 'penance' to his death.
It will be interesting the sentences to the Penn State officials who covered up Sandusky's crimes to 'protect the school'. They also need to go to jail for the rest of their remaining lives for their gross crimes. If they did the right thing over 10 years ago, so much suffering could have been prevented.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:09 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 2):
When you're 68 years old, 30-60 years IS life in prison.

As a 68 year old I can confirm that a minimum of 30 years looks like like. And not a very nice life at that.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:36 am

Here come the knee jerkers every time we have a high profile crime/criminal...

Quoting Revelation (Reply 3):

Hopefully he'll get raped as many times as he's raped others.

Who cares about that 8th Amendment though.  
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:14 am

I hope that if Jerry is abused in prison someone notices and reports it at which point the offender(s) is promptly dealt with. That would be a much nicer "F*** You" to Sandusky and the Penn State deniers.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:32 am

*Some* molesters show remorse. *Some* molesters know they broke the law. This guy thinks he is the victim. Life in prison is too good for him. This man is touched in the head.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:50 am

Quoting seb146 (Reply 13):
*Some* molesters show remorse. *Some* molesters know they broke the law.

Bullsh*t



Sandusky should have been executed.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:46 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 11):
Who cares about that 8th Amendment though.

Apparently Sandusky didn't think raping defenseless victims was was cruel or unusual.

Maybe he'll change his mind when he's on the receiving side.

As above, he still accepts no responsibility for his crimes, and states all he did was help these boys.

I doubt years of solitary confinement will change his mind about it, but who knows...
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:05 pm

Quoting brilondon (Thread starter):
Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Not yet.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:55 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 15):
Apparently Sandusky didn't think raping defenseless victims was was cruel or unusual.

I've never understood this line of thinking. Of course he didn't think it, however he has had his rights removed because of it. Why don't you go rape him yourself if you think thats what he deserves? Of course you wouldn't, just like you would probably not pull the trigger or push the needle into someone. You wouldn't do it because you're a rational, reasonable human being with a conscience.
Now tell me what the difference between you doing it personally and you de facto authorising someone else to do it is?

The whole reason cruel and unusual punishment is banned, is to separate the nation from the criminal, a critical distinction, otherwise you're just as bad as them.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 2:59 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
Do you think 68 year old Jerry Sandusky is going to live to 98-128?

Pretty unlikely. Especially with, you know, how child rapists are treated in prison.

Statistically he has around 10 years left, so it is unlikely he'll ever get out of prison. I am sure he'll get what he deserves in prison, hell; he could end up dead.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 14):
Sandusky should have been executed.

I agree, but you can't be executed for that crime. I would like to see one the one bullet in the back of the head treatment to a lot of these guys and if they don't die let them bleed to death in a gutter.
Sandusky may be executed yet... Remember Jeffery Dahmer? That guy was beaten to death in prison with a mop, which had to take a while.

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Not yet.

But I'm sure he will.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:22 pm

Who cares about that 8th Amendment though.

Sandusky received a fair trial and the punishment he is receiving is reasonable when compared to his crimes. He was eligible for a sentence of up to 400 years.

Cruel & unusual are the attacks that Sandusky carried out on young bouts. If he believes anal rape is "normal" then he will be most comfortable in prison.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
just like you would probably not pull the trigger or push the needle into someone. You wouldn't do it because you're a rational, reasonable human being with a conscience.

A lot of folks in Oklahoma (including me) would have had no problem pushing the needle on McVey.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 3:35 pm

Quoting Max Q (Reply 14):
Bullsh*t



Sandusky should have been executed.

Actually, yes, there are precious few criminals who are convicted of a crime and, later understand they did something wrong and actually try to change. Not many, but it does happen.

Also, this is one reason I don't believe in the death penalty. Criminals should just sit in a cell and be left to think about what they did and how it affects the loved ones.

But, Sandusky is such an ego maniac, he will never understand he did anything bad or wrong.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:32 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
Why don't you go rape him yourself if you think thats what he deserves?

That isn't my thing, but I would hit the guy with a pipe or a chain if I had the chance.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
Of course you wouldn't, just like you would probably not pull the trigger or push the needle into someone

I'd do it in the blink of an eye if I needed to and the guy deserved it. If I saw a guy like Sandusky doing great bodily harm to somebody I would not hesitate to pull my gun on him and shoot him. Deadly force is ok to use when you or someone near you is in a possible life threatening situation. If I saw some dude, raping a child I would probably shoot him because a reasonable person would think there is a fair chance that kid will end up dead. The news is always reporting a story about a child who has been raped and murdered.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 19):
A lot of folks in Oklahoma (including me) would have had no problem pushing the needle on McVey.

I bet that some people thought that was even too good for that guy.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:44 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 11):
Here come the knee jerkers every time we have a high profile crime/criminal...

How is that a knee jerk reaction? That should be everyone's reaction. Of course the court isn't sanctioning that kind of punishment, it will happen away from the guard's eyes though. And while I wouldn't wish anyone to experience rape, I can't say I have any ounce of sympathy for him. What he did was unconscionable and he deserves whatever comes to him.

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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:24 pm

Yes.

As everybody else said he isn't going to get out before he dies.

I'll be surprised if he makes it half the thirty years
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:27 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
Of course he didn't think it, however he has had his rights removed because of it.

Not sure why you are saying he's had his rights removed.

Certainly not because I posted a vengeful opinion on an Internet forum, I hope.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
Why don't you go rape him yourself if you think thats what he deserves?

I'd not do that for the obvious reason, but this is a case where I'd personally administer pain to the best of my ability. We're talking about an adult scum who has been committed repeated crimes over decades of time and has no remorse for his juvenile victims. Justice is not being served in this case.

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 17):
The whole reason cruel and unusual punishment is banned, is to separate the nation from the criminal, a critical distinction, otherwise you're just as bad as them.

I'm a human being having a vengeful thought, one that I think is very well provoked by this man's actions.

It happens.

Personally, I do not think justice has been served in this case, because I do not see how living his life out in prison is going to change his state of mind one bit, nor make much of an improvement in the lives of his many victims. However, I can see how him getting a bit of "prison justice" just might.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:49 am

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
Not sure why you are saying he's had his rights removed.

One's rights are rather curtailed in prison...

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
Justice is not being served in this case.

Perhaps you should move to Saudi or somewhere where the punishment is more befitting of the crime and justice may be served in your opinion. Why bother calling yourself part of the civilised world if you are advocating for the brutal rape of someone.

Quoting AviRaider (Reply 22):
Of course the court isn't sanctioning that kind of punishment,

I never said they were, however people in here most certainly are. Your politicians are also aware of discontent and so I'm sure there'll be pressure to make sure he doesn't have a pleasant stay in prison.

Quoting Revelation (Reply 24):
one that I think is very well provoked by this man's actions.

If you have personally been affected by this mans crimes, and not just by the media playing with your emotions, I could certainly understand an extreme desire for vengeance. However I empathise with victims of crime, it is critical that cooler heads prevail to uphold our well established practices in dealing with criminals.

Quoting falstaff (Reply 21):
If I saw a guy like Sandusky doing great bodily harm to somebody I would not hesitate to pull my gun on him and shoot him.

There's a difference between stopping a heinous crime and gunning down a chained man in prison.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 19):
Sandusky received a fair trial and the punishment he is receiving is reasonable when compared to his crimes.

I agree, an essentially life in prison sentence is a reasonable punishment for these crimes, societally sanctioned rape by a pack of criminals isn't.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:44 am

I am a die in the wool person who supports the death penalty but I am satisfied with what he got.. He will never see the light of day at his age and he knows it. His only hope is an appeal and that is unlikely. Too bad he wasn't caught earlier.
 
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:43 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 25):
Perhaps you should move to Saudi or somewhere where the punishment is more befitting of the crime and justice may be served in your opinion. Why bother calling yourself part of the civilised world if you are advocating for the brutal rape of someone.

I know a blast of righteous indignation when one is fired at me.

Congratulations to you for your ability to stay detached.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:44 pm

Quoting AviRaider (Reply 22):
How is that a knee jerk reaction? That should be everyone's reaction.

Speak for yourself.   
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

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Got a great idea! Put Sandusky in a room and play over and over again
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Wed Oct 17, 2012 5:28 am

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 29):
Got a great idea! Put Sandusky in a room and play over and over again

We can have the guys at Gitmo pass along a playlist.   
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:37 am

He probably is in the right place but I find it hard to believe that anyone in their right mind would molest children, which makes the situation more like jailing a mentally ill person. The people that protect him however, ie Paterno, the Vatican over and over again, football fans, etc. are not mentally ill by any means, and really are 100x worse for protecting that behavior.

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 26):
Too bad he wasn't caught earlier.

   It really sounds like there were several people protecting him/sweeping it under the rug. Those people who knew but didn't tell anyone are much worse than Sandusky.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:16 am

Quoting stratosphere (Reply 26):
Too bad he wasn't caught earlier.

He was caught earlier, but it was covered up to protect the Penn State football program.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 31):
Those people who knew but didn't tell anyone are much worse than Sandusky.

Rather than recognizing that, many Penn State people seek to absolve them of blame and carry around cardboard cutouts. The whole lot of them have lost their marbles, although there are a few people who understand the situation.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:07 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 31):

For Penn State, their football program was their "state religion!" Whistle blowers or anyone who wanted to sing like a canary were offered deals they couldn't refuse. If they let the cat out of the bag, they too could have gotten that special treatment that "Jerry's kids" suffered through.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:28 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 32):
Rather than recognizing that, many Penn State people seek to absolve them of blame and carry around cardboard cutouts. The whole lot of them have lost their marbles, although there are a few people who understand the situation.

  

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 33):
For Penn State, their football program was their "state religion!" Whistle blowers or anyone who wanted to sing like a canary were offered deals they couldn't refuse. If they let the cat out of the bag, they too could have gotten that special treatment that "Jerry's kids" suffered through.

  

This is why I can't really get on-board the hope-he-gets-raped train. Sandusky is awful but I wonder if he could control his urges. The Penn State officials that protected him and the football fans that put football before the safety of children--those are the people that should be beaten over the head.
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RE: Did Jerry Sandusky Get What He Should Have?

Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:34 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):
This is why I can't really get on-board the hope-he-gets-raped train. Sandusky is awful but I wonder if he could control his urges. The Penn State officials that protected him and the football fans that put football before the safety of children--those are the people that should be beaten over the head.

Or at least be made to fear getting "Sanduskied" themselves. Sorry to rag on you but State College, PA. is in the heart of nowheresville! There's not much to look forward to out there for the townsfolk. And most of the "looker coeds" at Nittany Diddle U would not give your average towny a second glance even if their lives depended on it. Penn State's gridiron culture seems to be comparable to those neurotic men's soccer testosterone fuled hooligans in Italy, Brazil and other various countries. So far, there's been no reported cases of kiddy diddling but there have been plenty of neurotic riots, hooligans pissing on each other and a whole host of churlish barbaric behavior. Call in Opra Moo Cow and Dr; Phil to set em all straight including the Penn State "sheeple."
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