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Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:42 am

Ladies and gents,

As we all have different preferences when it comes to buying a car, I would like to hear what you look(ed) for.
Sport, safety, green, big, small.......you name it. There's no right or wrong.

As a parent I am well in to safety and impact zones. Never ever would you see me drive around in Renault Twingo, Smart or any other "lunch box" for that matter.

Currently I am driving a Golf GTI which in regards to safety is a pretty good car. But I can not deny the fact that I also like my car to have some performance. More or less all my cars I had I have tuned one way or the other. A bit of a petrol head indeed.
I am by all means not thinking green. Maybe I should but I am not for several reasons which I will not start with in this topic.

[Edited 2012-10-31 02:44:16]
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RE: Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:01 am

I heard you wanted to upgrade to a Tata Nano.
 
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RE: Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:13 am

Quoting Bill142 (Reply 1):
I heard you wanted to upgrade to a Tata Nano.

Damn you for telling!
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:16 am

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
As we all have different preferences when it comes to buying a car, I would like to hear what you look(ed) for.
Sport, safety, green, big, small.......you name it. There's no right or wrong.

1. Good looks. Styling is super important in my purchasing decision. If I don't like the way a car looks, I won't buy it, no matter how good a car it may be.

2. Luxury and technology. Leather seats, woodgrain trim, roomy cabin, every feature and gadget imaginable in the car, quiet, refined ride.

3. Power. I'm not buying a truck, so it has to be reasonably swift off the line. 0-100km/h in under 7 seconds.

The Bentley Continental GT would be the ultimate.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:29 am

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):



Comfort, space, luxury, style and power. I'm partial to full-size sedans.
I don't like to have to 'duck' my head to get in & out of a car due to low, sporty rooflines of so many cars today.
My car in the US is a Lincoln Town Car. The car I'll most likely purchase here in Thailand will be a used Toyota Crown Royal Saloon (1999-2003) Royal or Crown Comfort.
Although the the Royal Saloon has many more features, I like the 'Comfort' model because it still has available column shifter and fender mounter rear-view mirrors.
I'm not a fan of console shift.
Car must be rear-drive and ideally V8. A I-6 or V6 is ok as well.
Vertical chrome grille and hood ornaments are a nice added plus.
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RE: Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:34 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 3):
The Bentley Continental GT would be the ultimate.

What are you driving at the moment?
Your preferences kind of matches what I had before the Golf as I was driving an RS4. Really comfy car with lots of gadgets and performance.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):

I don't think anyone here has missed your car preference.
Comes closer to flagships then cars.  
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:45 am

Quoting sudden (Reply 5):
What are you driving at the moment?

Umm ... a 2005 Ford Fairmont. It's a long, long way from being my dream car, but it's a full size sedan. The "Fairmont" is the more luxurious and better equipped version of the Australian "Falcon", and has the power from a 4.0-litre in-line six cylinder engine. It may not have leather seats and woodgrain trim, but it has velour seats and mock-woodgrain (plastic dyed with a non-descript woodgrain pattern) trim  



[Edited 2012-10-31 03:48:49]
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:00 am

Important aspects:

1. Safety
2. Comfort: want to be isolated from the environment and the engine (as little noise as possible, soft ride)
3. Understated, modern design (think Audi)

With plenty of resources, it would probably be a RR Ghost.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:02 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 6):

Would a Holden with V8 and supercharger not be able to coop with your preferences? Nice looking cars with enough torque.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:02 am

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 6):
Umm ... a 2005 Ford Fairmont. It's a long, long way from being my dream car, but it's a full size sedan. The "Fairmont" is the more luxurious and better equipped version of the Australian "Falcon", and has the power from a 4.0-litre in-line six cylinder engine. It may not have leather seats and woodgrain trim, but it has velour seats and mock-woodgrain (plastic dyed with a non-descript woodgrain pattern) trim



The best American cars at the moment are made in Australia. I'd like to have one of those V8 Holden Commodores.

Quoting sudden (Reply 5):
Comes closer to flagships then cars.


Haha, the Toyota Crown Comfort is the smallest of cars I'd buy.
They're used as taxis in Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:27 am

Quoting sudden (Reply 8):
Would a Holden with V8 and supercharger not be able to coop with your preferences? Nice looking cars with enough torque.

No, because it's a Holden  

The Holden-Ford rivalry in Australia is akin to the Mercedes-BMW rivalry in Germany. Not many fans of one brand would buy the other. If I'm ever to move away from owning Fords, it'll be to any brand other than Holden.
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RE: Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:32 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 10):
The Holden-Ford rivalry in Australia is akin to the Mercedes-BMW rivalry in Germany

I can recall that Bill142 mentioned this to me. I would not mind owning a Holden though. I like them.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:36 pm

Quoting CXB77L (Reply 6):
Umm ... a 2005 Ford Fairmont

What you didn't spend the extra 50 and get a Fairmont Ghia!?

Quoting sudden (Reply 8):
Would a Holden with V8 and supercharger not be able to coop with your preferences? Nice looking cars with enough torque.

There has never been a factory supercharged V8 Holden, HSV have never made one either.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:46 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 12):
What you didn't spend the extra 50 and get a Fairmont Ghia!?

I would've loved to, but it was out of my price range. I bought my Fairmont used, it was 11 months old and had done 16,000kms when I bought the car for which I paid $28,000 (compared with about $45,000 I would've had to pay for a new one, it was a bargain). The Fairmont Ghia definitely fits my preference for more luxurious, top of the range big cars much better than the Fairmont does, but at the time, it was the best I could afford.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:00 pm

1- Driving comfort... is it comfortable to steer, pedals right positions, seat go far enough down/back, controls easy to reach, etc

2- Drivability... acceleration is part, but also does it steer as i like (I like my steering responsive, not with a huge dead zone), easy to hold at speed, etc...

3- Overall look... not super important but I hate boxes... like Nissan Cube, Kia Soul, etc.
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RE: Car Preference......

Wed Oct 31, 2012 5:56 pm

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
I would like to hear what you look(ed) for

1. Performance/Handling - I was looking for a complete package, a car that performed well in acceleration, handling, braking, economy, and ride comfort. Doesn't have to be best in class in any category, rather provide a good overall compromise. Also, it must offer a manual transmission.

2. Safety - airbags in the front and sides, score well in the industry standard tests. Traction control and ABS are must haves, and stability control would be nice too.

3. Practicality - live in the city, so compact 4-door hatchback is my preferred layout. Enough cargo room for the occasional IKEA run, easy to park, able to maneouver through city traffic, and seat 4 adults in relative comfort.

4. Equipment - I like useful toys such as seat warmers, sunroof, and CD player. Leather seats, navigation, power seats, and other gadgets only come into consideration if they can be had within the target price (see below).

5. Value - My target price was $25,000.

Result: Volkswagen Golf GTI. Bought it new 4 years ago, it now has 99,800 km (62K miles) and still looks and drives like new.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:04 pm

I drive 55 miles to and from work every day.

I need:
*reliable
*fuel efficient (++++)
*safe in a crash
*comfortable

I do NOT need:
*attractive
*sporty
*luxurious
*big

Hence, I drive a Prius.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:35 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
I need:
*to live closer to where I work
*to work closer to where I live
*to use public transport

Fixed it for you. The first two plus the third would be far more environmentally friendly than driving a Prius, then you can own a decent car for weekend use.
 
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:30 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 17):

Fixed it for you. The first two plus the third would be far more environmentally friendly than driving a Prius, then you can own a decent car for weekend use

*My husband works in San Francisco, I work in a small town about an hour north. The Bay Area isn't exactly exploding with primary care pediatrician jobs near the City. Especially because I get a good deal where I work. so the more I move closer to work, the more he moves farther from work
*There is no public transport that could get me to work for less than $30 each way and 3 hours each way.

It's my life curse, really. The one and only time I had a good commute, the job was so horrible I quit after seven months. My curse is to have great jobs with horrid commutes.  
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:16 pm

I need two cars, three if I had a family. So far I only got one, the economic small hatchback that is easy to park, easy to fix, not too expensive to fuel. It's a Citroën C3. For luxuries I'm not difficult, a CD/MP3 player and electric front windows are enough for me, A/C if I had to live/travel south. It it handles right, is fast and can drop the top, I don't mind, so if I could afford it I would replace it with a BMW 135i cab or something like that. I already drive my 75HP C3 too fast, though, especially at night in my town, I know the streets too well.

The second car would be a sports car. It would have to be light first and foremost, so probably a Lotus, or something more extreme for track use only.

For the family I would take a minivan. I don't care if it has family man written over it, since it would be exactly true, and I would have the Lotus in the garage anyway. Currently I like the Citroën C4 Grand Picasso with glass roof :

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The first two need to have a manual transmission (or a sequential one), the minivan could be automatic (although I've never driven one).

Also, I like colors. My C3 is apple green, the Lotus would be burnt orange or krypton green and the minivan gold or sky blue. Red is an option for all.
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Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:45 pm

When I bought my car in 2010, this is what I looked for:

1.) A compact sedan or coupe.
2.) A larger 4-cylinder than I had (I had a Civic) with decent pickup.
3.) Manual transmission, preferably 6-speed.
4.) Sunroof.
5.) Good sound system.

This is what I found:

1.) A Mazda 3.
2.) A Mazda 3 S (2.5 liter versus 2.0)
3.) A Mazda 3 S with manual transmission (the 3 S is a 6-speed)
4.) A Mazda 3 S with manual 6-speed and the Bose audio/sunroof package.
5.) see 4.

I'm pretty sure I got the only one of its kind in the greater LA area. I'm pretty sure of this because they searched, and it was the only one of its kind in the greater LA area.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 16):
I drive 55 miles to and from work every day.

My drive to work took 7 minutes this morning.  
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:47 am

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):

My drive to work took 7 minutes this morning.

Go ahead and rub it in.

In my work:
*I make very good money.
*I can look myself in the mirror when I get home from work knowing that my job is to take care of needy children and that I am doing nothing evil or exploitative, nor am I being exploited.
*I have intellectual challenges that keep my work interesting and fun.
*I have great hours.

You know about all those Facebook posts about finding your purpose in life and being happy and fulfilled? Yeah, they're meaningless to me because I *have* found my purpose in life and I *am* happy and fulfilled.

I'll trade a crappy commute for those pluses. Not many other people in the world can say that their job gives them financial, emotional, AND intellectual satisfaction. Most have to pick the best two out of three.

So nyer! :p
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:13 am

Quoting sudden (Thread starter):
when it comes to buying a car, I would like to hear what you look(ed) for.

Fast. I have great merge genes, so I'm not afraid to hit the pedal and slide my way courteously into moving traffic, but that calls for a big engine. So I've always owned cars that were deceptively fast for their size.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:20 am

Hmm, what I look for in a vehicle:

1. Room - I'm 6'5". I need head room, I need leg room. Give me both and I don't ask for much else, though...

2. Fuel Efficiency
3. Ease of maintenance - I always give my cars a look under the hood and under the car. If the car looks terribly complicated to work on basic maintenance, I probably won't buy it
4. $$$ - always look for a good deal.

[Edited 2012-10-31 19:27:28]
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 2:27 am

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
Go ahead and rub it in.

Your wish is my command (in this instance only....I don't swing that way)....My commute has been between 7 and 15 minutes for the last 5 years.  

However, I'm moving this weekend, and it will go up to....GASP.....8 miles / 20-25 minutes. 

Of course, the downside is that I get terrible gas mileage, and my car won't last as long.

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
In my work:

All good stuff, and if it's worth it to you, then that's all that matters. I worked for a medical devices company for 4.5 years before I got laid off in May, and I always tried to tell myself, "hey, we're helping people". But unfortunately, it didn't offset the sheer torture of working there. Just a horrible atmosphere.

Now, I'm at a company whose products have been integral to hundreds, if not thousands, of space flights. That easily gets me to work every morning at the ungodly hour of 7am.  
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:18 am

My preferences are simple:
A largish compact/smallish mid-size wagon with RWD and a simple, reliable engine and drivetrain. Basically, Smithair747 and I are looking for the same car-


However, a nice '96 or later Taurus or Sable wagon would do.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:34 am

For me, I look for the following in a car, from a practical point of view:

1) Size - I live by myself, so I don't need anything larger than a midsize sedan; even those are too big for my needs and tastes these days. That said, I want the car to make good use of its available space; hatchbacks are good, as are a good set of fold-down seats.

2) Ease of maintenance - Not only do I like to save money on auto maintenance by doing it myself, I actually quite enjoy it most of the time. I try to shy away from cars that I know are headaches to work on (modern VW Group products, anything with a transverse V6, to name a few) and choose a car that is at least relatively straightforward to work on. You'd be surprised as to how many modern cars fall into this category.

3) Efficiency - While this isn't important enough for me to go buy anything with more than a 12V battery in it, I don't want to go around needlessly throwing money out the exhaust pipes. If anything, I'd seriously consider a diesel if it was really important to me.

4) Operating cost - Ties into points #2 and 3, but I don't want to waste a bunch of money keeping the car on the road. It's why I don't drive a WRX; insurance for a guy my age is insultingly expensive.

From an emotional perspective, I look for:

1) Engine - Engine, engine, engine! This is the heart and soul of any car, and it better be a good one. Raw power isn't exactly important; rather, how is that power delivered, and how does it fit with the character of the car? Does it make a pleasant sound?

2) Handling and Ride Quality - I like a good handling car, one that "communicates" well with me. The feel and weight of the steering is important to me, as having an understanding of what the front tires are doing is important, not just from a safety perspective, but from an entertainment perspective as well. This is one of the biggest reasons why I'm not keen on electric power steering, as the feel and weight is very artificial at all speeds. Beyond that, I want a car with relatively neutral ride quality - not soft and floating, as I find that dulls the feel of what the car's wheels are doing at any particular time, but not so hard that simply driving the car to and from every day becomes an exercise out of Fifty Shades of Gray.

Things I'm not concerned about:

-Badge/curb appeal/looks - I owned a 1-Series, after all - that car's got a face only a mother could love. Beyond that, if Kia made a car as universally good to drive as a BMW, I'd sign the dotted line in a second.
-Electronic toys - Some things are nice (like straightforward device connectivity and satellite radio), but I don't care for electronic infotainment. I'd rather the dynamics of the car entertain me.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:18 am

I have only bought one car in my life so far (2001 Volkswagen Passat), but my preferences for future purchases are:

-preferably an American or European car, but I'll also look at Asian cars as well (by this I mean where the car company is headquartered; for example Ford in America, Volkswagen in Europe, Mazda in Asia)

-plenty of room for passengers and cargo (station wagon, large hatchback, mini minivan, or sedan with large trunk) Ford Taurus wagon, Mazda 5, Ford Focus hatchback, the Citroen C4 Grand Picasso pictured above, or my Volkswagen which has a surprisingly large trunk and seats can be folded for extra space. Also a plus if there is room for more than 5 passengers, but not necessary.

-good fuel efficiency. I don't need a large engine. My Volkswagen's 4 cylinder turbo engine does the job nicely.

-I don't want a bunch of technology features that I'll never use. Again, my Volkswagen doesn't have fancy gadgets that I'll never use. Something like a backup camera or backup sensors are useful and I would gladly have on my car.

-reliable daily driver. Besides regular maintenance I hope that everything works as it should until it has run it's course and needs replacing.

-good tires for the Minnesota winters.
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:34 am

Things I would currently look for in a car, most important first:
1. AWD
2. Manual transmission
3. Station wagon
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4. Reliability
5. Fuel Efficiency
6. Utility (should be able to take a few bangs, not the type of car that needs to stay pretty)
7. Driving comfort
8. Power
9. Looks

1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 7 are checked by my 2000 Subaru Legacy Wagon. In a few years when I have a steady income I'll be making the decision to sell it and get another car or dive in and do power/looks upgrades. As it is now, I don't think there's anything on the market that fulfills my requirements better than 1998-2005 Subaru's, so that's probably what I'll be sticking with. Unless someone comes out with a good electric AWD station wagon, then I'd be first in line.  
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:33 am

Quoting TSS (Reply 25):
Smithair747 and I are looking for the same car-

Smithair747 might beat you.  
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Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:28 am

For me, I look for the following in a car:

  • sufficient room in the interior (like tz757300, I'm just short of the 2 meter mark   )
  • sprightly handling: doesn't have to be fast, but has to have precise, finely tuned - and above all fun - handling
  • good design: has to have fine aesthetics that'll catch my eye, while still remaining understated. Clear, simple lines and odd colors (like metallic lime) are perfect; the interior MUST have at least two different colors/shades... and to hell with boring, straight, functional lines  (basically, the complete opposite of a VW interior)
  • not much equipment: automatic aircon and simple cruise control is enough for me (less stuff to go wrong)
  • lively engine: doesn't have to be big - 2.0 liters tops - but needs to be torquey and willing to accelerate uphill (for overtaking lorries on sloping roads). Bonus points for "addons" such as twin cams
  • and above all, mechanically reliable. I'd pay a bit more when buying - and sacrifice some of the above - if it'll get me a solid car that I can depend on in all conditions


  • Essentially, a car like the Euro Ford Focus - not necessarily the ST - or Mazda 3.
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    Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:09 am

    Quoting Kaphias (Reply 28):
    2000 Subaru Legacy Wagon

    Had one of those. Great car to be honest and I had mine tuned a bit as well. But when the gearbox decided to shread itself to pieces I got rid of the car instead of fixing it. And no, it did not give up due to the tuning.
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    Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:12 pm

    Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 24):
    Quoting DocLightning (Reply 21):
    Go ahead and rub it in.

    Your wish is my command (in this instance only....I don't swing that way)....My commute has been between 7 and 15 minutes for the last 5 years.

    That's a massive commute! My commute is all of 3m / maybe 5 seconds; I work from home!

    For me, fuel efficiency is No1 priority followed by comfort, safety, room and gadgets (leather, heated seats etc) = Skoda Superb Elegance Greenline II; averages over 60mpg on the combined (easily over 70mpg on motorway / freeway) with a spec list as long as your arm. Much better than the Prius I test drove before getting the Superb. I'm not too fussed about performance these days with heavily enforced speed limits

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    Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:31 pm

    Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 32):
    That's a massive commute! My commute is all of 3m / maybe 5 seconds; I work from home!

    I could never do that. Leaving aside that working out of your home as a physician doesn't really make any sense, there are too many distractions at home.
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    Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:08 pm

    Quoting DocLightning (Reply 33):
    there are too many distractions at home.

    You got that right. I'd probably just end up sleeping in every day.
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    Fri Nov 02, 2012 12:35 am

    Quoting Superfly (Reply 4):
    Vertical chrome grille and hood ornaments are a nice added plus.

    I wasn't paying attention to who wrote it but as soon as I saw vertical chrome I knew it was Fly.  
     
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    Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:14 am

    I'm 25, single, and I love driving, so when I bought my car in 2012, this is what I looked for:
    1) A hatchback.
    2) Manual transmission.
    3) Blistering performance.
    4) Price under 30K

    This is what I found:
    1) A VW GTI
    2) A Subaru WRX
    3) A Mazdaspeed3

    I went on test-drives. The WRX was out immediately because I know if I got one, I would regret it every time I saw an STi on the road. The GTI's interior was that of a car costing three times as much, but the performance was very lackluster. The Mazdaspeed3 had an interior that left a little to be desired, but the performance put a smile on my face that was there for days. The decision was easy!

    Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
    A Mazda 3 S with manual 6-speed and the Bose audio/sunroof package.

    I ended up with the Mazdaspeed3 with the tech package (Navigation, Auto Headlights, Auto Wipers, Blind-spot monitoring, Satellite radio, LED tail-lights). I'll see your measly little 2.5L, 167HP, and raise you a 2.3L turbo with 263HP and 280 ft-lb of torque!!!  

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    RE: Car Preference......

    Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:53 am

    When I'm in the market, I look for the following not necessairly in this order:
    • Reliability (Consumer Reports ratings/reliability)
    • Practicality
    • Fun to drive/handeling
    • Looks
    • Color (I've had two black cars and I say I will not go back to black car color
    • Maneuverability
    • Got to have a kick ass A/C system


    Contrary to what many believe you can attain most if not all these things listed.
    My favorite car I owned was a 1986 Toyota Celica GT coupe. Equipped with A/C and 5 Speed Stick. Car was super reliable, extremely nimble and fun to drive. Safe in most snow events that occurred in Baltimore. Decent gas milege. With mixed driving (Interstate and City using A/C) I got anywhere from 24 to 30 mpg. And I'm a lead foot. When I drove to Atlantic City several times, my gas milege was 38 mpg! This car was easy to park and the back seats lowered creating decent storage.
    An interesting note. The car I had before was my dad's old black with a black vinal roof Olds 98 Regency 4 door. The A/C did an Anna Nicole (croaked) gas mileage was single digits, the bumper fell off and I had trouble hauling my Nordic Track.
    With my Celica, I put the back seats down and easily fit the cross country ski simulator inside. And this car was half the size of the old bordello on wheels.

    If money were no object and I could own multiple cars like Jay Leno I'd have in my stable/garage.

    NO order again
    • 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado
    • 1972 Buick Riviera (Boattail)
    • 1963 Vette Stingray
    • 1967 Ford LTD Country Squire Wagon
    • 1964 T-Bird Convertible
    • Early 60's "JFK Continental" 4 door convertible
    • 1970 Datsun 240 Z
    • 1986 Toyota Celica GTS Coupe
    • 2000 Toyota Celica
    • 1957 Forward Look Plymouth Suburban Wagon fully loaded
    • 1969 Pontiac Grand Prix


    I could list present (New Cars) but I'd be here all day!
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:17 am

    As an addendum to post #25, here are a few things I avoid in a car:
    1. Sunroof- The majority of them steal precious headroom, they make the car hotter inside during the summertime (a big consideration here in Alabama), they tend to bind up or stop working entirely at the most inopportune moment, and sooner or later they all leak.
    2. Leather Interior- Hotter than cloth in the summer, colder than cloth in the winter, and needs special care year round to remain in good shape.
    3. Aftermarket Wheels- They're never as durable as factory wheels and they often require custom lug nuts and/or special lug wrenches.
    4. Aftermarket Sound Systems- Most sound God-awful from a fidelity standpoint, plus their controls, usually made up tiny buttons and poorly conceived multi-function pads, are inscrutably labeled and it is impossible to find the "on/off" switch.
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:35 am

    Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 20):
    My drive to work took 7 minutes this morning.  

    I take 4 to 5 minutes tops to get from my door to my office...!!!

    I bought a Golf Variant (sportwagen in the USA). 175HP, torquey, super quiet, roomy, drives like a car and has all the luxury items I like, pano sunroof, Navitation, voice commands, rear view camera, heated seats, xenon afs lights, you name it it has all a mid pack Merc has. 8 airbags, huge brakes and excelent visibility....

    Also I can carry my bikes on the roof !!!
    The best seat in a Plane is the Jumpseat.
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:44 pm

    I owned a Cayenne for a while and regarding comfort it was great. Kids loved it as they saw over the other cars. But if I were to own one of those again it would have to be one with a bit more power as I had the sneak 6 cylinder version. But again, a nice ride.
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:53 pm

    I'm always looking at cars, I can't help it, I'm also a serial buyer of cars, 7 in the last 5 years, but my wife bless her has said no more, we have to keep the ones we now have for 3 years before you can swap them. At the moment I'm rather partial to an A6 Allroad for the wife and and A1 1.4 TFSI for me, I've not owned an Audi so I think next time they get my dosh.
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:07 pm

    Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 41):
    I'm also a serial buyer of cars

    hahaha....

    Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 41):
    I've not owned an Audi so I think next time they get my dosh.

    You are sure in for a treat.
    When in doubt, flat out!
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:26 pm

    Right now I'm looking for a car that seats 2 isofix seats and one adult in the back seat.

    Might try the 520d if i have time but i doubt all three will fit.

    Other option is to buy a Honda FRV (or similar) and only use it when I have all three in the back.

    Suggestions?
     
    na
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:28 pm

    1. Superior styling with future classic appeal (as opposed to trendy). And that means beautiful outside and inside.
    2. Rarity (I hate those bestsellers parking at every corner, no matter how "good" they may be technically)
    3. It has to fit to my purse
    4. Dynamics. I am not a racer, but it should be fun driving it. 150 hp are the bottomline.
    5. Safety. A modern car should achieve 5 stars in crashtests.
    6. Brand. I do like brands with a great history and tradition.
    7. Bodystyle. I need a 4/5-seater - twoseaters are great, but they are for people who can afford more than one car.

    Maximum space, avantgarde technology, unbeatable fuel consumption, top reliabilty are all secondary for me. But as there are hardly any real bad cars out there nowadays when it comes to these ordinary man´s preferences its easy to ignore them.

    I am driving an Alfa Romeo 159 Sportwagon. The only car in the world that fits all 7 points!

    Quoting CXB77L (Reply 3):
    The Bentley Continental GT would be the ultimate.

    I am absolutely with you this time! But unfortunately its doesnt fit to point 3!
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:52 pm

    Quoting TheRedBaron (Reply 39):
    Navitation

    Is that a mix of Navigation and Levitation? Could be pretty neat, especially in heavy traffic!
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:05 pm

    Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 41):
    but my wife bless her has said no more, we have to keep the ones we now have for 3 years before you can swap them

    I feel your pain. Mine said the same thing. I am not allowed to mention "new car or truck" until I have had my current one for at least 3 years  
    “Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, an
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:47 pm

    Earlier this year I bought my first car.

    The 3 top values I was looking for were Style, Fuel Mileage, and Performance/Fun to drive.

    I also did keep my eye on longevity and build quality, however I only plan on keeping the car for 4 years before I buy again so I wasn't too concerned.

    Also, I determined that the C-Segment (Compact Car) was the place for my needs and I would buy brand new.

    Cars I test drove/considered and why:

    2012 Ford Focus - Best looking in the segment in my opinion
    2012 Mazda 3 - Sporty performance
    2013 Hyundai Elantra - Great fuel economy
    2012 Honda Civic - Great fuel economy
    2012 Kia Forte - Selling for cheap

    Cars I ignored and why:

    Toyota Corolla - Uninspired vehicle despite good reputation, to cramped drivers seat (I'm 6'3)
    Chevy Cruze - Bad service at dealer, car itself was nothing special to me.
    Volkswagen Jetta - Interior left me a little dry
    Nissan Sentra - No CVTs for me please
    Suzuki SX4 - Ugly and uncompetitive (Also they are pulling out of NA)
    Mitsubishi Lancer - Starting to age compared to new technology, Mitsu itself is going under so it seems.
    Subaru Impreza - Too pricey

    This is all subjective of course!

    After test driving all vehicles I determined:

    Civic- Feels like a tin-can while driving, interior layout a bit of a throw off.
    Forte- Very surprised on how much I like this car but in the end, style not bold enough.
    Hyundai Elantra - Great car, great value. Lots of warranty, lots of space, good price, and sleek styling.
    However the drive just wasn't up to par with the Focus and Mazda.
    Mazda 3 - Style is good, drive is the best as far as I'm concerned, but price was high and fuel mileage way down. Also the interior was not very comfortable and rather bland.

    That brings me to the Ford Focus.

    This car had the best style to me. The build quality was also the best with very tight fit parts and soft touch materials all over the cabin. Felt up class compared to the rest. The price was a little high but not unbearable and the drive was just a pinch away from the Mazdas great handling. Also, the Focus got exceptional gas mileage.

    So in the end I bought the 2012 Ford Focus SEL Sedan in Sterling grey. Loving it months later!

    One thing you want to do when you pick a car is to make sure there are no factory issues in the media. The Focus initially had a fair bit but I kept tabs on the updates Ford kept coming out with and bought it when car reviewers deemed it suitable. I haven't had a single issue with the car and the experience is positive enough that I'd choose Ford again.  

    [Edited 2012-11-07 08:48:31]
     
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:45 pm

    - Safety
    - Styling
    - Performance
    - Efficiency

    Not necessarily in that order.

    I live in central Paris and have a company car which I only use on weekends and for trips away. It remains in the underground car park at the office otherwise. It meets my above criteria and is great for long road trips and exploring on country roads. For example, between Millau, central France and Lyon this summer, covered a couple of hundred km's of really remote back roads (even got encircled by cattle 3 times   ) It hugs the corners really well and economy can be as good as 6 l/100km of deisel:



    2012 BMW 525d with Sports transmission and suspension

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    NSMike
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    RE: Car Preference......

    Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:53 pm

    Quoting LostSound (Reply 47):
    So in the end I bought the 2012 Ford Focus SEL Sedan in Sterling grey. Loving it months later!

    I liked the new Focus as well but I'm a hot hatch kind of guy so I bought a 2013 Focus ST. It's in every way much better than my Integra GSR was. The torque is unreal...
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