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Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 7:55 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXz4P6EpX3s

Have fun! Why so many Russians have the video running while driving? - they think driving is video game!
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:05 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Have fun! Why so many Russians have the video running while driving?

Actually, this is a serious question. It appears that on all of these different vehicles, the video camera is mounted at the top center of the windshield.

Any Russian A.netters care to explain this?
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:12 pm

Quoting na (Thread starter):
Why so many Russians have the video running while driving?

It's the wild west, so having a dash cam may be the only way to prove fault for an accident with insurance companies.

Basically driving in Russia is like real life Grand Theft Auto.
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:17 pm

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Actually, this is a serious question. It appears that on all of these different vehicles, the video camera is mounted at the top center of the windshield.

The explanation I've heard is that drivers use them to actually document - and protect themselves against - road rage and insurance fraud incidents. There were some reported cases of people jumping in front of slow moving vehicles and faking having been hit by them - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l9LO6kY2PY&feature=player_embedded - so having a camera that records everything is a surefire way to please your own insurance company.

Also I gather it helps when various motoring disputes tend to escalate into something bigger... and get to court.

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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:30 pm

Isnt the fighter jet dashing a mere 30 ft above the road amazing?

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 3):
The explanation I've heard is that drivers use them to actually document - and protect themselves against - road rage and insurance fraud incidents.

O-k, I thought that some of these videos (surely a minority though) are just joyrides with stolen cars. Incredible reckless driving, unbelievable. Surely a lot of vodka involved to get the "right" result on camera...
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:37 pm

Quoting na (Reply 4):
I thought that some of these videos (surely a minority though) are just joyrides with stolen cars.

I'm pretty sure that most of them are legit experiences on the Russian roads.
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 8:57 pm

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 3):
There were some reported cases of people jumping in front of slow moving vehicles and faking having been hit by them

Well, this one didn't go all that well - according to he driver's comment the guy died in the hospital.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
I'm pretty sure that most of them are legit experiences on the Russian roads.

It's a crash compilation - you could find a lot of similar situations around here too. Especially in winter.

Some parts of the video were cool though. I loved the horse on pedestrian crossing.

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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:05 pm

It seems that Russians are more likely to overtake on the left than Americans are. I suspect that have fewer police running speed traps. And that Mi-8 blasting down the road right over them was pretty cool.
 
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Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:23 pm

Having driven in Russia, and having been in cars with Russian friends when they first came to the states (left turns out of the right lane on red lights!), I can say...it's definitely not a driving culture that emphasizes safety. (Seatbelts are apparently for wusses too.)

Quoting TripleDelta (Reply 3):
There were some reported cases of people jumping in front of slow moving vehicles and faking having been hit by them

This actually happened to my wife's aunt in Prague a couple of years ago while we were in the car. We were on a busy side street and this drunk was stumbling across the street. She stopped like 20 feet away to let him cross, but instead of continuing to cross the street, he stopped, stared at us, and ran straight at the car, throwing himself across the corner of the hood, and then lying under the front wheel pretending he had been hit.

First he tried to extort money directly from my wife's aunt directly for his "injury," then when she said no got irate, started beating on the car and saying he would call the police. She called the police instead. No one stuck around and volunteered to be a witness, but luckily the police didn't believe anything the guy said and dragged him off since he was 1.) Russian (which pretty much guarantees you worse treatment by the Czech police anyway), 2.) drunk 3.) abusive and threatening to the police as well, and 4.) not actually injured and at some point forgot to keep limping.

However, it wasn't pleasant while he was hammering on the car with our kids inside, and screaming at all the passers-by that he had been hit by us. We figured if we drove away with him yelling (he had written down the plate numbers), it would imply guilt. So we had to wait till the police came, and it was a narrow street with no way to pull out of the way...and soon we were blocking a tram from getting by too.

I remember thinking at the time that it was surprising that this type of fraud wasn't more widespread, since if he hadn't been a drunk foreigner, he might have gotten away with it.
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:32 pm

Also, what's with all of the wheels just randomly falling off of vehicles?
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:34 pm

I suspect that in Russia it is only in the last 20 or so years that most could own a car, too many have no experience at driving. I suspect you would find the same situation in other Eastern Euro countries, China, Africa and Asia where only in recent years the many beyond the top politicans or the very rich could own cars and have no generational experience in driving.
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Wed Dec 05, 2012 9:46 pm

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 6):
It's a crash compilation

In a broader sense perhaps. Apparently there's lots of DUI in unsafe vehicles combined with a certain shrug-it-off or cut-me-some-slack culture.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 10):
I suspect that in Russia it is only in the last 20 or so years that most could own a car, too many have no experience at driving.

No, that's not it.
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:55 am

Very odd is the scene with the speeding Lada hitting another car on a crossing and the driver just opening the door, grabbing his office bag and walking away as if he just had parked correctly, leaving the destroyed vehicles he slammed in on the middle of the crossing. Unbelievable.
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:58 pm

When I was in Russia I never saw any crazing driving. If anything, the drivers there seemed way more conscious of pedestrians than here in the US. Everytime I would see a car coming and then walk slowly to cross, the car would stop even though I left them plenty of time to pass. Nobody would do that in the US. Perhaps that is because pedestrians are more careless and the drivers know not to expect someone to wait for them to pass.

What I found to be crazy was they didn't plow or salt the roads or sidewalks. So the sidewalks were often just sheets of ice and the roads all snow, mud, and ice. Yet somehow I never saw any accidents.
 
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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:35 am

Having spent a few days in Moscow, this definitely seems par for the course. Saw guys driving an entire street on the sidewalk to escape traffic, and even had one guy manage to find a way to cut me off despite the fact that we two were the only cars within a 5 block radius in the street at that time of the morning.

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Have fun!

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RE: Driving In Russia A Definite Njet!

Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:53 am

Driving in Russia is tricky, and yes - the standards aren't great. I feel I can speak with some authority here having been in an accident there myself (still have the scar to prove it), and also having seen dead traffic victims on two other separate occasions. But, it's not the worst. You can find far worse in other countries, it just compares badly with most western driving standards.
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