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Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 5:58 pm

On Fox News' homepage, a story about special airline paint schemes. Personally, I'm surpirsed this is a news story, but still fun to read.


http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/1...airlines-for-real/?intcmp=features
 
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Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:52 pm

"If you see a yellow tailed plane that looks like a raccoon then your looking at Germanwings’ Airbus A320"

Journalism these days.... I think, at the very least, they should be able to spell.
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:15 pm

What's fake or weird about Germanwings? Slow news day I guess.
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:57 pm

Germanwings is a lot more real that the "news" on Faux News...
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:10 pm

Interesting. I had never seen the Kulula plane in that green livery before, pretty cheeky of them lol. I think Eva Air's Hello Kitty theme is deplorable though   
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:30 pm

Speaking as a member of the media, it's all about pageviews this time of year. Historically, from now through New Years, they drop quite a bit so you need stuff like this to make up that loss.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 9:08 pm

That's the most "news" I've seen on FoxViews.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:07 pm

I love how the author kept saying "airliner" when referring to different airlines.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:07 pm

Speaking as a former member of the media, this is an example of why I got out.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:25 pm

I wonder how much Fox News would pay me to write a badly-written, non-informative article on miscellaneous airlines of the world that's full of grammatical errors...?
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:34 pm

Quoting SCQ83 (Reply 5):
What's fake or weird about Germanwings? Slow news day I guess.

Bad choice of pictures. In the article they talk about 4U's special bear livery, which admittedly is a bit unusual, but they chose a regular new livery for the pictures. Bad editing.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:20 pm

... the grammar, oh god help us... proofreaders anyone?
Useless article written by someone in a hurry, probably sitting as a filler article for years before they needed to put something up, and just hastily updated and posted.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:25 pm

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
"If you see a yellow tailed plane that looks like a raccoon then your looking at Germanwings’ Airbus A320"

It's good to see that they can't even get the animal right, not to mention the grammar.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:48 pm

Someone should send FoxNews this thread. L. O. L. The author is a jackass.

I'm surprised that they didn't even research thoroughly....and no U.S. carrier is even in that article. (Hooters Air doesn't exactly count as that was operated by Pace, IIRC). I wonder where this author got her journalism degree from......

Disgusting article..... Good Riddance!!!!
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:05 am

Although many members have a strong view on Fox News we ask that you still remain on topic. You don't have to like the source, but please provide constructive criticism to the discussion.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:38 am

Thank you jetblueguy22. I will quit while I am ahead!
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:57 am

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 14):
Although many members have a strong view on Fox News we ask that you still remain on topic. You don't have to like the source, but please provide constructive criticism to the discussion.

While I can certainly understand your sentiment, is that not really the main discussion? Not so much the topic, but that a supposedly reputable news source would be filled with so many inaccuracies, and grammatical errors. It is like when a movie comes out, or a television show pertaining to airlines appears ... we pick apart the errors, with glee!

I am still trying to figure out what this was trying to say ...

Its main hubs are Thunder Bay and Sudbury’s Canada.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:13 am

Quoting longhauler (Reply 16):
While I can certainly understand your sentiment, is that not really the main discussion? Not so much the topic, but that a supposedly reputable news source would be filled with so many inaccuracies, and grammatical errors. It is like when a movie comes out, or a television show pertaining to airlines appears ... we pick apart the errors, with glee!

I do agree the article is not the best piece of journalism. For the sake of discussion though it is better to point out what is wrong with the article rather than just instantly dismissing it as garbage without stating your reasoning for coming to that decision.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:16 am



I know, it looks like a yellow-tailed raccoon (the Cozumel raccoon), but it's actually a Germanwings yellow-tailed plane that looks like a raccoon!

Hah! Your eyes deceived you!
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:16 am

Not surprised that Fox news would tell people the racoon they are seeing is actually an airplane LOL
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:31 am

It's especially annoying when there is no option to email the author or source to comment on an article's problems or errors. Wasn't that one of the supposed selling points of online journalism -- that it was more "interactive," and because of that reporters would be more accountable?


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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:04 am

I think these 2 points illustrate the depth of the article:

"The good news for consumers is that Department of Transportation tells FoxNews.com they rarely receive complaints that sellers of air transportation are not legitimate operators. Still it never hurts to do your homework."

"FoxNew.com turned to travel writer and expert Lee Abbamonte, the youngest American to visit every country in the world, to give us his insights into a few lesser-known airlines."
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:29 am

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 17):
I do agree the article is not the best piece of journalism. For the sake of discussion though it is better to point out what is wrong with the article rather than just instantly dismissing it as garbage without stating your reasoning for coming to that decision.
Blue

I think people have been very clear about what is wrong with the article. They are not criticizing it solely because it is Fox News. I think all media is criticized on this forum. This inept article simply happens to be from Fox. Shouldn't be taken as political criticism as you seem to be implying.
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:04 am

Quoting reality (Reply 22):

Some posts have been removed due to the bringing of politics into the discussion. That is what I was referring to, not the thread in its current state.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:24 am

Dear god, proofread your freaking writing. A multinational news conglomerate can't decipher the difference between your and you're?! My six year old nephew is better with grammar and spelling.
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:19 am

What I found most interesting was the giant list of airlines banned from flying in Europe. Never in my life would you catch me on any of those!
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 8:20 am

Consider the source..
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:16 am

That has to be a fake article. There are too many misspellings in it.

Here are the examples that jumped out at me:

"If you’re like me and not familiar with foreign airliners..."---should be airlines
"This low-cost airliner has been flying for more than ten years.."---Did Kulula get a bargain price on the 737?
"Germanwings is a safe carrier with a young fleet of modern air crafts."--should be aircraft. It's one word without an s.
"Its main hubs are Thunder Bay and Sudbury’s Canada."--It's Sudbury, not Sudbury's.
"...flights between Canadian cities like Thunder Bay to Sioux Lockout..."--It's Sioux Lookout, not Lockout.
"Industry analysts said the airliner ran into competition with other low-fair carriers..."--should be airline
"U.S. airliners have very strict requirements to meet before they can sell or even transport passengers..."--who do the airplanes sell the passengers to?

A fourth grader could have written a better article.
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:33 pm

Does anyone else find it interesting that the most popular picture today is of a Germanwings AB with a very different livery?
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:44 pm

Quoting thrufru (Reply 28):
Does anyone else find it interesting that the most popular picture today is of a Germanwings AB with a very different livery?

When I first looked at it I thought, 'where the heck did they get a raccoon from?'

Had to Google it to find what I assume is the livery they're referring to and even then it still doesn't look like a raccoon  
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:55 pm

Quoting skyguyB727 (Reply 27):
That has to be a fake article. There are too many misspellings in it.

It's very sad that it isn't fake.

Because I had nothing better to do, I copy and pasted into MS Word, which pointed out numerous mistakes ...so I have absolutely no idea how this poor example of writing is possible.

It's truly unbelievable.


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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:19 pm

Wow, as an English teacher this makes me squirm!

I am not a journalist but isn't it common practice that someone else (editor) reads your article before it is published?

If I had a student turn this in I would be pissed. Even a simple MS word spelling check could have fixed a bunch of these mistakes. This article shows a total lack of effort in my opinion, bad grammar and shabby contents at best.

It's a bit of a "will it blend" episode. Take some random facts, pictures and words, put it in a blender and poor it on a piece of paper.

Very unprofessional writing.

On a more positive note, I do like the idea behind the article. For people that normally don't have an interest in aviation it will be fun to browse through some of the pictures and read some of those random "facts".
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:36 pm

Ohhhh good old "Sudbury's, Canada"...
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:35 pm

Quoting francoflier (Reply 9):
I wonder how much Fox News would pay me to write a badly-written, non-informative article on miscellaneous airlines of the world that's full of grammatical errors...?

You must be kidding.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:58 pm

Quoting The Article:
With so many bucket airlines out there today, how do you know if the deal you just got on a ticket is actually from a legitimate airline?

Ah, yes, those good old bucket airlines.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 5:40 pm

I find it quite strange that with all the remarks on grammar and spelling and what not, nobody picked on the fact that the "BearBus" was an A.319, not an A.320.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:12 pm

Quoting teusje (Reply 35):
I find it quite strange that with all the remarks on grammar and spelling and what not, nobody picked on the fact that the "BearBus" was an A.319, not an A.320.

Who says we didn't? But we can't expect the right aircraft type from someone who can't spell!
 
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:14 pm

Quoting northstardc4m (Reply 11):
... the grammar, oh god help us... proofreaders anyone?

The real problem with the state of journalism today is two-fold:
- 24 news cycle and the rise of "gotcha" articles, and
- disappearance of effective editors. Everyone's their own editor now. It is simply unacceptable to review your own work.
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RE: Fox News: "Are These Airlines Real?"

Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:44 pm

This is particularly painful for me. I used to be the Managing Editor for my school's newspaper, mainly for my business acumen as opposed to any journalistic skill, but I still made sure that nothing went to print without it landing on my desk first. How is it that I can command such quality from a handful of English majors for a paper with a circulation of only a few thousand, yet this multi-national news organization can't? Mind-boggling.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 37):
- 24 news cycle and the rise of "gotcha" articles, and
- disappearance of effective editors. Everyone's their own editor now. It is simply unacceptable to review your own work.

I suspect you're correct. Although this article is the furthest thing from breaking news, so one would expect some degree of proofreading...
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