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Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:05 pm

Do you know of any e-mail provider that offers the option to cancel a mail that was sent within 15/30/60 seconds or something? I think it would be a huge success if anyone was to offer that.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:16 pm

So you want an e-mail provider that automatically holds your outgoing mail for a specific period of time before actually sending the message?
 
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:41 pm

Gmail has an adding that does just that.
 
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 2:50 pm

Quoting Tupolev160 (Thread starter):

Do you know of any e-mail provider that offers the option to cancel a mail that was sent within 15/30/60 seconds or something? I think it would be a huge success if anyone was to offer that.

GOOGLE does it... Check it out.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:30 pm

Gmail does; I think it is from their Labs add-on sections. I've had it for years.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 6:38 pm

As pointed out, GMail does it. However, why would you need such a feature? With a few exceptions, if you need to get that e-mail you sent, back, I would think you should have thought twice about sending it in the first place. When I went through orientation at the first corporation I worked for in the US, we were told to be very, very careful with e-mail and consider anything sent as gone, poof, can´t get it back. E-mail is great. It´s also a two edged sword.
 
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 7:50 pm

Quoting AR385 (Reply 5):
we were told to be very, very careful with e-mail and consider anything sent as gone, poof, can´t get it back

That is usually true of regular mail too. If you drop a letter in mailbox you aren't going to get it back and even if you wait the mail carrier to open the box they won't hand it over.

Now in something like the outgoing mailbox we have at work I could get something out of there if I wanted too.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:42 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 6):
That is usually true of regular mail too. If you drop a letter in mailbox you aren't going to get it back and even if you wait the mail carrier to open the box they won't hand it over.

Absolutely - it's just that email takes a fraction of the time and effort to send. Far easier to make a quick and regrettable mistake with.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:08 am

Well, I've received an e-mail on occasion, which makes the one I just sent seconds ago unnecessary, even possibly making me look foolish.

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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:23 am

Hi!

Also I believe Aol email used to have an "unsend" feature which I think worked at any time although it only worked I think when sending to other Aol email addresses. I may be imagining this but I think it was in the 90s.

For a while I was using quite a cool provider I thought called Hushmail. They even have a feature I think where you can password protect your email so the guy recieving has to find the password to open it! Maybe I am imagining that though as I can see how that would be implemented. Is quite a good simple email provider though I thought and free.

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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:28 am

[quote=AR385,reply=5]As pointed out, GMail does it. However, why would you need such a feature? With a few exceptions, if you need to get that e-mail you sent, back, I would think you should have thought twice about sending it in the first place. When I went through orientation at the first corporation I worked for in the US, we were told to be very, very careful with e-mail and consider anything sent as gone, poof, can

While that is true, there are times that I could see it being helpful. Not for the oh I shouldn't have said that factor, but there are times things are left out of a message inadvertedly. Spelling errors may have been discovered after submission. As you said though once send was clicked even if the message was recalled there is a decent chance what ever was sent has/will be read in its original form.
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:33 am

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 12):
While that is true, there are times that I could see it being helpful. Not for the oh I shouldn't have said that factor, but there are times things are left out of a message inadvertedly. Spelling errors may have been discovered after submission. As you said though once send was clicked even if the message was recalled there is a decent chance what ever was sent has/will be read in its original form.

Sure. I see you point. But in the corporate world, an e-mail of such importance that you need it to be almost flawless in Spelling and Grammar sounds more like an attachment to that e-mail that you would have thought throughout.

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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:51 pm

We are humans that's why we put the eraser on the pencil. We make mistakes. Any little bit of help to correct them is welcomed
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:48 pm

I am surprised that many here do not seem to realise the legal implications. What Google and email applications like Lotus Notes do is probably putting the email on hold for a while. When you press the "Unsent" button" it actually cancels the sending process.

Removing mail in someone else's mailbox is IMHO a criminal offence in most countries. Legally it doesn’t matter if this is your own mail.
 
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:50 am

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 15):
I am surprised that many here do not seem to realise the legal implications. What Google and email applications like Lotus Notes do is probably putting the email on hold for a while. When you press the "Unsent" button" it actually cancels the sending process.

Removing mail in someone else's mailbox is IMHO a criminal offence in most countries. Legally it doesn’t matter if this is your own mail.

There are actually quite a few programs that allow for "unsend", the most robust are ones that don't actually "send" the message but either send the message within a shell or notify the recipient of the message and they can then read the messageor on the services servers. If you decide to unsend, the message is deleted (or you can replace it just as easily) from the server or the shell "open code" is revoked.

Outlook itself allows "unsend" within the same server group or enterprise system (almost always within the same company) prior to it being read (though the recipient can set their Outlook to not allow that). As to the "criminal" aspect of "removing" an email from someones Inbox, if the service (like gmail, not that I am saying that they do it) has the function baked into it then it will be in the terms and conditions you agree to as the email is really on the services servers and not yet on your computer. Once it gets to the computer it is relatively unlikely to be able to be deleted.

There are also functions that allow you to set time limits on emails (so they self delete) or disallow them from being forwarded or replied to (directly). For Outlook I think you have to have ".NET" services (or whatever) enabled. But a lot of these depend of both computers using the same program or service,

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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:56 am

Quoting tugger (Reply 16):
As to the "criminal" aspect of "removing" an email from someones Inbox, if the service (like gmail, not that I am saying that they do it) has the function baked into it then it will be in the terms and conditions you agree to as the email is really on the services servers and not yet on your computer.

There is no global legislation on internet usage and Terms and Conditions therefore do not override local legislation. Instagram (owned by Facebook) which has implemented Terms & Conditions which contradict or at least perceived to contradict IP ownership laws of several countries is currently in such situation. I believe lawsuits have been filed recently against the company.

Quoting tugger (Reply 16):
Once it gets to the computer it is relatively unlikely to be able to be deleted.

Doing this is IMHO as a legal layman a serious offence in many jurisdictions. I can even image that in many jurisdictions, the sender (or the service provider for that matter) isn't even allowed to delete sent mail even if that mail is stored on the serviceprovider's servers. The snailmail equivalent of this is the postoffice or sender removing a letter from a PO located on the premises of the postoffiice.
 
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:51 am

Quoting YokoTsuno (Reply 17):
There is no global legislation on internet usage and Terms and Conditions therefore do not override local legislation. Instagram (owned by Facebook) which has implemented Terms & Conditions which contradict or at least perceived to contradict IP ownership laws of several countries is currently in such situation. I believe lawsuits have been filed recently against the company.

I understand what you are saying but I think for email and like items this may be a different situation, the question usually boils down to "who owns (controls) it (the content/item)" and "where does it reside"? If it never leaves the companies servers and the sender (originator) agreed to the terms, then that can be a different situation (we are not talking a service provider taking original content from a subscriber/individual and offering it for sale to other entities for a profit, we are talking about following the originators instructions).

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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:46 pm

Outlook express has a recall facility.....
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RE: Mail Provider That Allows To Cancel Sent Message?

Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:54 pm

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 19):

Outlook and Outlook Express both require Exchange at both ends for this feature, and it also requires the feature be enabled at the AD level on the recipients end - it doesn't "just work", it needs cooperation from a lot of the infrastructure.

If the mail is still in the outbox, you can just delete it, as it's not been sent yet.

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