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New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:48 am

2014 Chevy Corvette


The above semi-official (aka leaked) image of the new Corvette, which will be officially launched at the Detroit Auto Show on January 13th. Much more angular styling (some say the new Vette looks strangely similiar to the Lexus LFA) ls in store - notice that the Vette has very Camaro-ish tail lamps and a huge 4 pipe exhaust located in the rear diffuser panel. The Vette continues to be a V-8 powered, rear drive sports car. Pricing and technical details will be annouced on January 13th.



2014 Cadillac ELR



Also drawing a lot of attention is the new Cadillac ELR coupe, the Cadillac hybrid based on Chevrolet's Volt sedan., The ELR gets a higher horsepower 4 cylinder gasoline motor, more battery storage for longer electric range (and to support a million Cadillac electronic bells and whistles), Cadillac's VUE info-tainment system (like it's big brother, the XTS), and some of the most elegant styling seen from Cadillac in years, IMHO.

2015 Cadillac Ciel


There is also a rumor that a roofed version of the Cadillac Ciel flagship sedan, which is based on GM's new premium rear-wheel drive "Omega" platform and rumored to be powered by a twin-turbo V-6 engine that produces at least 375 horsepower), will be shown and foreshadows the 2015 flagship. (Cadillac, please call it a Fleetwood!!)


2014 GMC Sierra


Already introduced to the public (and probably the most important new vehicle introduced by GM in the last few years) is the next-generation 2014 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra pick-up trucks. While the styling is chunky (like the GMC Terrain) and engineering was geared to making these trucks as fuel-efficient as possible, the profits that GM makes off this product is critical to it's long-term financial health

Source: http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...orvette-beyond-successful-plumbers

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:22 am

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
The above semi-official (aka leaked) image of the new Corvette, which will be officially launched at the Detroit Auto Show on January 13th. Much more angular styling (some say the new Vette looks strangely similiar to the Lexus LFA)

The styling is really not bad, but certainly not unique. They ripped off the rear of the Lexus LFA and stuck on Camaro tail lights and the rest looks like it came straight off the SRT Viper and Ferrari 599.

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
some of the most elegant styling seen from Cadillac in years, IMHO.

Just the opposite actually. The hard edged Art and Science style does not work well on shorter, taller vehicles. The XTS looks like a Ford Fusion after running into a brick wall, and the ELR looks worse than that, and unfortunately probably won't be popular with funeral directors so things could get rough.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:38 am

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
Also drawing a lot of attention is the new Cadillac ELR coupe, the Cadillac hybrid based on Chevrolet's Volt sedan., The ELR gets a higher horsepower 4 cylinder gasoline motor, more battery storage for longer electric range (and to support a million Cadillac electronic bells and whistles), Cadillac's VUE info-tainment system (like it's big brother, the XTS), and some of the most elegant styling seen from Cadillac in years, IMHO.

I do not like the nose. Too blunt and sudden. Looks disjointed. Like it ran into a wall when it was still part melted.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:41 am

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):

There is also a rumor that a roofed version of the Cadillac Ciel flagship sedan, which is based on GM's new premium rear-wheel drive "Omega" platform and rumored to be powered by a twin-turbo V-6 engine that produces at least 375 horsepower), will be shown and foreshadows the 2015 flagship. (Cadillac, please call it a Fleetwood!!)

That is a thing of beauty. I thought the droptop version was gorgeous and this version is just as stunning. It's a nice blend of retro styling as well as the Art & Science styling. I'm sure there are a lot of folks thinking the following after seeing the image of the Ciel:

 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:53 am

Well the @$$ end of the Vette looks like a far east Camaro, other than the 4 exhaust pipes.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:18 am

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
notice that the Vette has very Camaro-ish tail lamps


Yes it does look like a Camaro tail end with a Mustang C-pillar.

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
Also drawing a lot of attention is the new Cadillac ELR coupe, the Cadillac hybrid based on Chevrolet's Volt sedan.,


  
Are these flammable like the Volt?

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
There is also a rumor that a roofed version of the Cadillac Ciel flagship sedan, which is based on GM's new premium rear-wheel drive "Omega" platform and rumored to be powered by a twin-turbo V-6 engine that produces at least 375 horsepower), will be shown and foreshadows the 2015 flagship.



That is a step in the right direction. I just hope they get rid of those giant ghetto rims and use a standard 15" rim with more rubber/less metal. That care would look great with white-wall tires.
Drop in a V8 or V12.
The high-reving V-6 would be better suited for the little ELR.

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(Cadillac, please call it a Fleetwood!!)


Not without a V8.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:23 am

Is the design for the new Corvette final?

I just can't believe GM would put Camaro-type tail lights on a Vette! Corvettes have round tail lights!

Other than that, it looks good.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:00 pm

Evidently Chevrolet is live-streaming the C7 reveal from Detroit tommorrow evening starting at 7PM Eastern Time. Info at: One13Thirteen(dot)com regards...jack
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:28 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
huge 4 pipe exhaust located in the rear diffuser panel.

Hidious, really really hidious, 4 pipes looks naff.

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
The Vette continues to be a V-8 powered, rear drive sports car.

But it's also going to come with a twin turbo v6.

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
There is also a rumor that a roofed version of the Cadillac Ciel flagship sedan

Hope so this is a great looking car.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
They ripped off the rear of the Lexus LFA

Have you actually seen a Lexus LFA the rear doesn't look anything like this mess. The LFA also has the best sounding exhaust note I've ever heard on a street car.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/wp-content/uploads//2011/10/Lexus-LFA-Rear-View.jpg
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:42 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
2014 GMC Sierra

this must be a typo as this car was clearly styled in 1993.

like the corvette though.

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:19 pm

I don't think the Corvette looks too bad, however it doesn't look like a Corvette. As for the Ciel, will there be a second trunk in the front ? Because the hood is really big for a V6.

I find the ELR nice and if people can enjoy all their bells and whistle without burning too much gas I'm all for it.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:25 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
notice that the Vette has very Camaro-ish tail lamps

Don't like this, but will reserve judgement till more photos are available.

Why would one want to cheapen the Vette by using Camaro styling cues?

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):

There is also a rumor that a roofed version of the Cadillac Ciel flagship sedan, which is based on GM's new premium rear-wheel drive "Omega" platform and rumored to be powered by a twin-turbo V-6 engine that produces at least 375 horsepower), will be shown and foreshadows the 2015 flagship.

Not my style, but I imagine this will sell well.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 6:45 pm

Does anyone know if the corvette v8 is a push rod ore over head cam(s)?
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:18 pm

Quoting mad99 (Reply 12):
Does anyone know if the corvette v8 is a push rod ore over head cam(s)?

The base engine is called LT1 and of course, it's a push rod engine.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:20 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
The above semi-official (aka leaked) image of the new Corvette, which will be officially launched at the Detroit Auto Show on January 13th. Much more angular styling (some say the new Vette looks strangely similiar to the Lexus LFA) ls in store - notice that the Vette has very Camaro-ish tail lamps and a huge 4 pipe exhaust located in the rear diffuser panel.
Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 8):
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
They ripped off the rear of the Lexus LFA

Have you actually seen a Lexus LFA the rear doesn't look anything like this mess. The LFA also has the best sounding exhaust note I've ever heard on a street car.

Agreed. The tail end of the new Corvette is just two great big fans away from shamelessly ripping off the Chaparral 2J-
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/91/Chaparral-2J-Chevrolet.html
The Lexus LFA, not so much.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):
Quoting stasisLAX (Thread starter):
(Cadillac, please call it a Fleetwood!!)

Not without a V8.

Agreed! Put all the frenetic little turbo V6s you want in lesser Cadillacs, but to be a Fleetwood a top-of-the-line Cadillac must have a high-torque V8. Period.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:42 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 8):
Have you actually seen a Lexus LFA the rear doesn't look anything like this mess.

Sure it does. Split the lights in two, add the fourth exhaust pipe, and shrink those large vents and you have the new Corvette.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 8):
The LFA also has the best sounding exhaust note I've ever heard on a street car.

It's unreal.

Quoting Aesma (Reply 10):
I don't think the Corvette looks too bad, however it doesn't look like a Corvette.

It's not ugly. They did copy some good looking cars after all.
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 7:44 pm

The Ciel needs a V-12 or V-16 engine. Seriously, set yourself apart from the crowd Cadillac - don't just talk about doing it, do it.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:02 pm

Actual on the street, on the road, appearance-wise, we'll see. I've been out of the loop for some time at GM, BUT one thing that NEVER changes is that the real thing will give you different impressions of the photo thing, be it plus or minus.

mad99 (rep 12); Ultimate (to date) pushrod technology. I'M even surprised at the technology. In old(er) days there were many internal "pushes" on at GM for DOHC'ing the Corvette. Back then the argument "for" DOHC was that everybody (the world) viewed pushrod V-8s as archaic. The argument "against" DOHC was several, one being that with ever increasing manufacturing technology yielding improvements in less internal friction (for push rod systems, let alone twice the extra camshafts, etc.) and computer controls enhancing every performance parameter, that winning cadre stuck with pretty close to the original 4X4 Chevy V8 layout designed by Ed Cole and originally installed in production 1955 Chevys. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Improve it, yes. But don't throw it away.

Plus a Chevy V8 pushrod sounds neater 'n shit! I really like the V10 Dodge Viper, but it sounds like...well...

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:22 pm

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 17):
The argument "against" DOHC was several, one being that with ever increasing manufacturing technology yielding improvements in less internal friction (for push rod systems, let alone twice the extra camshafts, etc.)

The pushrod engine will also probably be a better fit under a Corvette's low hood, and maybe drop the CG a bit too.

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 17):
I really like the V10 Dodge Viper, but it sounds like...well...

Sound is just icing on the cake. If it goes fast enough, I don't really care how it sounds.

But, sounding different than a Viper is probably a good thing. That way people standing in front of it can tell which car it is.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:28 pm

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 17):
If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Thanks for the reply.

that's amazing they keep the same design, i would have thought it would be DOHC by now. Any idea what the red line is on that motor? If its not reved too high it might not justify the change.
 
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Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:32 pm

GMs car division badly needs new designers, those things are hideous.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 10:53 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 15):
Sure it does. Split the lights in two, add the fourth exhaust pipe, and shrink those large vents and you have the new Corvette.

Yup so basically absolutely nothing like an LFA.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sat Jan 12, 2013 11:13 pm

BMI727 (Rep 18); "...a better fit under a Corvette's lower hood,..." Actually it's a function of width more than height, but your point is well taken. Lower CG? I dunno; all that stuff's alloy now, but you may have a point there too. The real, REAL reason is that the "'old pushrod guy" just does stuff better for its design intent. Plus it sounds neat. And you said ..."I don't really care how it sounds." And I say again "Plus it sounds neat."  

Mad99 (Rep 19); Don't know what redline is but they seem to want to advertise 450HP/450Torque.They probably don't want to spin her over 6500 RPM or so. Just a guess.

IMissPiedmont (Rep 20) sez: "...those things are hideous." BUT WAIT! until you have one parked in your drive. Well, I probably won't have one parked in my drive either. Then again, I ain't seen one in real life either. All best...jack
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 12:53 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 21):
Yup so basically absolutely nothing like an LFA.

...if you're Vanilla Ice.

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 22):
Lower CG? I dunno; all that stuff's alloy now, but you may have a point there too.

True, but at the end of the day the engine is still a big, heavy chunk of metal. Despite lighter materials and more powerful engines for a given size, Porsche still creeps the 911's engine further forward with each successive generation.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:01 am

If you really think this



looks like this

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/wp-content/uploads//2011/10/Lexus-LFA-Rear-View.jpg

then you need to see an optician!
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:23 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 24):
If you really think this

Same basic layout, never mind the extreme details. You need to have an LFA from the same rear quarter view as the vette to see the same trend of the knife edge rear quarter panels - they both share that aspect, LFA had it first.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:31 am

Quoting aerobalance (Reply 25):
Same basic layout, never mind the extreme details.

You could say that most cars.

Here's the view you wanted.

http://www.goldenrider.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Lexus-LFA-Rear-Angle-View-.jpg

again nothing like the C7,
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:44 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 26):
again nothing like the C7

Unfortunately, your mind is working the details. I take it you'll be saying it doesn't look similiar to the many who think otherwise.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:47 am

Quoting aerobalance (Reply 27):
Unfortunately, your mind is working the details.

No it's not, the general layout is also different, the only thing they have on common is that they are the back ends of cars which most of us will only get to see speeding away from us  
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:10 am

Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 13):
The base engine is called LT1 and of course, it's a push rod engine.

Push rods vs DOHC engines ? "Surely you jest, Mr. Feynman?" (which is, not even worth arguing about!)


Corvettes ? To me, the biggest "wonder" of all about Corvettes is.............that they STILL make the things ! Before I get mired in my "opinions" about them, I'm wondering if anyone knows if they are still making the things at Bowling Green, Ky. ?
(which is where they wisely decided to build the "International Corvette Museum" BTW)

I had very mixed opinions about Corvettes when I was still in the business of transporting them from the assemble plant, to the dealers (mostly on the East Coast) where they sold many of them. I can tell you this about the type; I had very MIXED emotions when told to proceed to BG and pick up a load of Vettes; on the one hand, every load I ever hauled made me a LOT of $$$.....which is the name of the game to be sure; on the other hand.......they are about 9 times more "pain in the ass" to load, AND "look out for", on the 600 to 800 mile trip to the dealers they went to.

When you arrive at the Corvette yard, all of the loads are "lined up" in rows, each row being a load; before you even move a unit, you MUST spend 4 times as much time inspecting every unit, PLUS all of the "throw in" items; no two Vettes have exactly the same items, and EVERY item represents "many$$", so you have to double (and triple) check each item, lest you get to the dealer, and something is missing. All of this "checking" takes lots of time; then, the vast majority will have auto transmissions, but a few will be "sticks"; after you've backed a few "sticks" up onto, across the trailer, and onto the head ramp of a carrier, you will have become a firm believer in automatic transmissions in Corvettes; the next "challenge" is finding the damned tie-down holes in order to chain them down; most cars it's quite easy, with Vettes, it's much less so; (sometimes bordering on "damned near impossible"); but you MUST chain them down; (otherwise they'll fall off !) (which will result in your untimely execution, or worse !) There is only ONE sin greater than having one "fall off"; and that's having a big wreck, which in 99.9% of the time, results in all 12 of the things becoming "junk", (which incidentally causes the carrier to become responsible for paying Generous Motors the "dealer's cost" for all 12 "banged up" Corvettes, AND.......they don't even get to KEEP them ! (All "write-offs" are paid for by the carrier, then promptly made into "blocks" by a huge "gloppa-ta-gloppada" machine at a junk yard,) (The wisdom behind which is.........."can't have anyone getting their filthy hands on any of these "car parts" when "exorbitantly priced car parts" is our MAIN business !) (Bet you always assumed selling cars was the main business; it's second; the afore-mentioned being first.)

That's the "easy part"; when you get the insufferable things to the dealer, the check-in "procedure" is about 9 times as "pain in the butt"as it is for all other cars put together. (one scratch on a Vette being "equal" to a hood bashed in on other cars)
Hauling many Vettes WILL make a better car hauler out of one; (especiallly those wishing to remain gainfully employed);

Next is my overall "take" on owning a Vette, which is..........Dismal ! Highest insurance rate in the land, (unless of course you've recently "down-graded" from Ferrari's); and you of course will require a "secure" place to park your less than comfortable "ride"; a large bank vault comes to mind, but is normally not easy to find. And cops.........cops LOVE to "ticket" people driving Vettes; (seems one ticket to a Vette guy is worth 3 or 4 to a guy in a "lesser ride". in addition to the the preceding..........I don't even like the damned things.......(which of course is just my opinion, and as we all know, opinions vary!)

And of course, there's that "other" question.........WHO actually drives Corvettes, anyway? Once again, ........IMHO........narcissists, "wanna-bees", pro tennis types, (NBA and NFL types won't "fit" in them), and various "look at me" types, and possibly the occasional homeless person who has just won the lotto would be my best guess.

So forgive me me for not becoming excited over the "new" Corvettes............

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:01 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 28):
Quoting aerobalance (Reply 27):Unfortunately, your mind is working the details.
No it's not, the general layout is also different, the only thing they have on common is that they are the back ends of cars which most of us will only get to see speeding away from us

All good, I dislike both of them  
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:04 am

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
I'm wondering if anyone knows if they are still making the things at Bowling Green, Ky. ?

They are.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
and you of course will require a "secure" place to park your less than comfortable "ride"; a large bank vault comes to mind, but is normally not easy to find.

For most owners a garage works just fine.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
WHO actually drives Corvettes, anyway? Once again, ........IMHO........narcissists, "wanna-bees", pro tennis types, (NBA and NFL types won't "fit" in them), and various "look at me" types, and possibly the occasional homeless person who has just won the lotto would be my best guess.

Way off base actually. Corvettes are the blue collar super car. Vette buyers tend to be middle aged or older and middle to upper middle class. There are some that are wealthy I'm sure, but it's more likely they are middle managers, professionals, or small business owners than athletes or CEOs.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:54 am

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
Push rods vs DOHC engines ? "Surely you jest, Mr. Feynman?" (which is, not even worth arguing about!)

Sorry, I didn't get it.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
And of course, there's that "other" question.........WHO actually drives Corvettes, anyway? Once again, ........IMHO........narcissists, "wanna-bees", pro tennis types, (NBA and NFL types won't "fit" in them), and various "look at me" types, and possibly the occasional homeless person who has just won the lotto would be my best guess.

That would be actually true for most of premium cars.

Quoting Geezer (Reply 29):
Next is my overall "take" on owning a Vette, which is..........Dismal !

Well, again...that would be true for 100% of real sport cars. You can't really enjoy them anywhere in the developed world without having the police on your back. And they are absolutely impractical as daily drivers.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 5:29 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 8):
But it's also going to come with a twin turbo v6.

It is?
 
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Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:16 am

Quoting mham001 (Reply 33):
It is?

Apparently.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:25 am

Charley; your'e on a roll;

As an oldtimer (evidently as you are too ..just maybe?) I love Corvettes . I've owned just shy of a dozen of them over the past "few" years - plus other stuff lke a few Panteras, an XKE, a Shelby AND a brand new Pinto. To name a few.

My smiley take on your (Rep 25) was that your post was mostly devoted to the trials and tribulations of simply doing what you and your company was contracted to do. Just friggen do the job. Don't bitch so much about the job. Just do it, or change workplace.. I know a teeny bit of what I am spewing. My wife was with two major trucking firms for 20+ years.

An addendum to your; "WHO actually drives Corvettes?" A narcissist? Not me, I like Bud Lite.(and an occassional Jack Daniel); "Wanna bees"? Nope, been there and done that like a lot of the good folks here on the a.NET.

Furthermore, I ain't a "Look at me type", BUT you gotta admit there is something a li'l bit different than sittiting in a Stingrray with the top down as opposed to a Renault 2CV. Luv you'se guys...jack
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:09 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 5):


That is a step in the right direction. I just hope they get rid of those giant ghetto rims and use a standard 15" rim with more rubber/less metal. That care would look great with white-wall tires.
Drop in a V8 or V12.

I'd agree with that. Also, there should be a limo version, and I don't think it would kill them to do a vinyl roof option. Add all that up, call it a Fleetwood, like someone else here said, and we have a for real Cadillac here...
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:46 am

Ugh. Do they really have to give every of their car the 'Transformers' treatment?

There are people out there who thought these movies were terrible. And coincidentally, many would happen to be part of the Corvette's customer base...

Now, those Caddies are alright!
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:10 pm

Quoting aerobalance (Reply 16):
The Ciel needs a V-12 or V-16 engine. Seriously, set yourself apart from the crowd Cadillac - don't just talk about doing it, do it.

Perhaps Cadillac could "borrow" the 6.2 liter V-8 that Chevrolet utilizes. But, alas, we have the damned federal CAFE standards that must be adhered to, or manufacturers must pass along steep "gas guzzler" taxes to the consumer - something "Government Motors" is loathe to do.....

As for the Corvette, Chevrolet is looking to sell the Corvette to a younger, more tech-savvy buyer. The Vette buyer is currently a 50-ish year old successful "blue collar" type of guy, that probably lives in the mid-West or Texas. Chevy has been licensing the Vette for use in video games (Grand Theft Auto and such) to drum up brand awareness with young buyers for years - and Chevy obviously uses the Corvette as a "halo" vehicle, like Chevy uses the most sporting versions of the Camaro currently. Not all young buyers at going to be wealthy enough to drop $60K USD on a Vette, but you might get them into the showroom to look at the Corvette, the dealership might be able to get them to buy a new Chevy Cruze or a Malibu (preferably the more sporting turbocharged variants).
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:31 pm

Hey ! BTW..........I was "exaggerating" just a teeny little bit about "who drives Vettes" ! (Matter of fact, I know about a dozen of them that I hope to hell never see this post ! (Just wanted to see if everyone was still awake)

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:37 pm

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 38):
But, alas, we have the damned federal CAFE standards that must be adhered to,

Some have said GM could build a luxury V8 in tomorrow's small displacement sizes - 2.4 liter turbo, up to about 4.0 liters.
You could still get that V8 sound from a small engine and get high MPG. It could do nicely for a Cadillac type use.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:46 pm

Just a heads up- Chevy is revealing it (the new Corvette) in about 15 minutes (7pm EST).
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:04 am

Quoting Polot (Reply 41):
Just a heads up- Chevy is revealing it (the new Corvette) in about 15 minutes (7pm EST).

I was just going to post a reminder. C7 generation Corvette "Stingray" will be unveiled in 2 minutes, for those interested.

Lincoln has also broken cover for the Detroit Auto Show with its new MKC crossover, based on the new Ford Escape's architecture, by leaking several official photos of this model.

2014.5 Lincoln MKC (concept)


Source: http://www.leftlanenews.com/photos/lincoln-mkc-concept-picture-5.html

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:20 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 34):
Apparently.

No they are not. The base engine is a small block, just like it has always been.

Here it is..
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:50 am

And some different views of the new Corvette Stingray from more official GM photos. I think it's stunning looking and definitely a step forward in design... not "retro" at all.

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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:55 am

I was blasting it on Twitter as the reveal was going on, but I'm slightly warming up to it as the evening progress. Definitely something I'd need to see in person, but I've never been a fan of Corvette's styling; only of the performance it's been able to provide for the price.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:06 am

I like it! Takes some of the chiseled Camaro look. There are too few straight lines in auto design today! Really like it. Not 10/10, but solid 7/10 or 8/10 imo.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:33 am

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 34):
Apparently.

It doesn't appear to be the case, not that I'm against the idea. You could probably stick a twin-turbo V6 in the Corvette, slap a plastic engine cover that says "V8" on it and many drivers wouldn't know the difference. Even more if they pipe sound in like BMW does.

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 35):
As an oldtimer (evidently as you are too ..just maybe?) I love Corvettes . I've owned just shy of a dozen of them over the past "few" years - plus other stuff lke a few Panteras, an XKE, a Shelby AND a brand new Pinto. To name a few.

You're not alone, quite a few people have more than one Corvette. Overall, I'd wager that Corvettes are more likely to share garage space with a Harley or pickup truck than with a Ferrari or Porsche.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 40):
Some have said GM could build a luxury V8 in tomorrow's small displacement sizes - 2.4 liter turbo, up to about 4.0 liters.

The issue with that, which I've seen mentioned in reference to the C7 too, is that GM may not have the money to burn on an all new engine. Besides, I don't think luxury buyers would take that kindly to the traditional cross plane V8 sound. For those cars, a dual mode exhaust is probably best when necessary, but I personally consider actually pumping sound in via speakers to be beyond the pale. That way the attitude can come out when it is summoned. A Camaro or Corvette can be raucous all the time, but a Cadillac should be sedate until told otherwise.

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 44):
And some different views of the new Corvette Stingray from more official GM photos.

I think rear 3/4 is the best view of the new Corvette. The angular styling is a definite improvement, and the sharp rear roofline, not unlike the Aston Martin One-77, is very nice, although I suspect visibility is limited due to thick pillars and high flanks.

On a more macro note, I'm a fan of the exhaust-pipes-as-styling-element trend. From the Pagani minigun to the raised race style on the McLaren 12C to the perfectly integrated BMW 7 Series to the new Corvette's I like that they have become an active part of a car's look and personality.

Quoting Acey (Reply 45):
Definitely something I'd need to see in person,

It is tough to tell from photos, but the interior, a perennial Corvette gripe, appears to have take a significant step forward as well, not unlike what Chrysler did with the Viper. Neither stripped out nor outright luxurious it at least appears livable and not out of place on a car of that price range.
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:37 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 47):
It doesn't appear to be the case, not that I'm against the idea. You could probably stick a twin-turbo V6 in the Corvette, slap a plastic engine cover that says "V8" on it and many drivers wouldn't know the difference. Even more if they pipe sound in like BMW does.

I still think this car will end up with a TTV6 at some point in it's life, a six isn't without president in the Vette as it was launched with the Blue Flame Six all thouse years ago.
 
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RE: New-Gen Chevy Corvette Launching At Detroit Show

Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:18 pm

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 36):
I'd agree with that. Also, there should be a limo version, and I don't think it would kill them to do a vinyl roof option. Add all that up, call it a Fleetwood, like someone else here said, and we have a for real Cadillac here...


I agree as well. In fact, raise the roofline a bit.

Quoting Flighty (Reply 40):
You could still get that V8 sound from a small engine


???   
Most that buy V8s aren't looking for a V8 "sound". Especially Cadillac buyers. They want lots of power with a quiet interior.

Quoting stasisLAX (Reply 44):
not "retro" at all.


The Corvette was never retro.
I don't like this transformer look at all.
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