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The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:37 pm

Does anyone else besides the Weather channel use the name of winter snowstorms? There is a big snow storm coming tomorrow (12+ inches of snow) for Long Island and none of the local forcasters have been using the Nemo name like the Weather channel has been. Why bother naming the winter storms if only the Weather channel will be using the name?
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:41 pm

Because it's just a weather channel gimmick, and nothing more.
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:04 pm

Here is another name,...stupid,...just stupid. Trouble with the weather channel now is you can't get the weather...you get drama instead. I have to flip to a more local weather station if I want immediate radar or go online.
 
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:59 am

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 2):
Trouble with the weather channel now is you can't get the weather...you get drama instead
Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 2):
I have to flip to a more local weather station if I want immediate radar or go online.

That is the reason. Weather Channel has been losing revenue to the internet so they need to sell more advertising and give people reasons to watch their channel. They create drama by naming all storms and by showing Coast Guard rescuse and it could happen and all the other things. I, too, miss the days when Weather Channel showed weather.

As far as naming winter storms: That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Some of them are not any worse than any other winter storm I had experienced in Oregon. But, they need to sell, so they create panic and drama.
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:31 am

As pointed out, this is a TWC gimmick and only that. NOAA / National Weather Service does not support or condone this activity and advised strongly against it. Hopefully it dies off next year.

This blizzard forming over the NE is confusing a lot of people. Apparently one part of the system they called Faye and then another Nemo...and its just a mess. With a tropical system it is easy to name the system because you can track the low pressure center. With a classic winter storm in the Northeast you normally have an initial low over the Great Lakes that transitions energy to a secondary low off the coast. If you followed the tropical method it would be two different storm names.

It is all just a mess and does nothing but confuse people.
 
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:57 am

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 4):
As pointed out, this is a TWC gimmick and only that. NOAA / National Weather Service does not support or condone this activity and advised strongly against it. Hopefully it dies off next year.

When I first heard about the naming of winter storms I thought it was a NOAA idea, then as the winter progressed I noticed and nobody was using the names except for the Weather Channel. That's why I started this thread. Thank you for clearing that up.
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 2:06 pm

Quoting seb146 (Reply 3):
As far as naming winter storms: That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. Some of them are not any worse than any other winter storm I had experienced in Oregon. But, they need to sell, so they create panic and drama.

And that sets a dangerous precedent. It is one thing to "inform the public", another to "freak them out". The winters of the past have been pussycats compared to those of the 60's and 70's. They were just part of the seasonal landscape...not the new armageddon.   
 
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:10 pm

I wish the individual channels wouldn't name the storms. I'm fine with NOAA/NWS doing it but it creates confusion in the affected areas. A friend of mine messaged me last night asking if they were going to get hit with two storms. She's heard the names Charlotte and Nemo. Its just confusing. I'm learning to hate the 24 hour news cycle more and more everyday.
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:54 pm

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 7):
I'm learning to hate the 24 hour news cycle more and more everyday.

Seems to lead to a lot of hyping of storms.

Everyone here in my part of the Northeast US is in over-drive hyping up a storm that might bring 1.5 to 2 feet of snow in a day.

That'd be normal lake effect snow out near Buffalo, no?

In any case it's got me too uptight over something that really is normal winter weather.

It's been snowing since 8am or so, and is supposed to keep snowing till tomorrow at noon, and I already have cabin fever!
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:08 pm

One thing I just have to opine on here - this storm is not named "Nemo" by any agency with any official capacity. There is no naming convention for winter storms, nor has there ever been one. "Nemo" is a publicity stunt by The Weather Channel designed to increase ratings, and has no basis in objective reality. The National Weather Service does not refer to this storm as Nemo, nor does it have plans to refer to future storms by name. The naming of winter storms is just the further dumbing down of American society and culture. That is all.
 
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:49 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 9):
The naming of winter storms is just the further dumbing down of American society and culture.

It's really no different from the naming of hurricanes and tropical storms. Let's not make this out to be any more than it is.

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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:26 pm

The naming of hurricanes and tropical storms is done by the World Meteorological Organization, the agreed-upon governing body that handles these matters. There is a criteria by which a storm gains the necessary strength to be named, and a list of names to refer to - everyone knows what the name of the next storm will be.

The naming of winter storms is done by The Weather Channel, a commercial for-profit weather reporting channel, with no governing authority whatsoever. The only criteria by which a storm gets named is whether or not a few suits in a conference room think, in consultation with a few highly paid meteorologists, a storm will end up big enough. Then they go around the room, scratch their heads for five minutes, "What's a good name?" "NEMO!" "How's that sound, everyone?" "Cool, we'll call the segment producers and get this out...", and lo and behold, Nemo is born.

I'm not opposed to naming winter storms... I'm just saying - if we do it, let's pull it out of the hands of a company making money with an arbitrary process in place, and put it into the hands of the National Weather Service - and implement a criteria by which a storm gains strength to be named, a pre-approved list of names, and a 'winter storm season', giving us a window of time for which storms can have names...
 
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:40 pm

Glad I'm not on the east coast dealing with the mess. I'm just enjoying Cloudy Day Jeanette today. Tomorrow, we're expected to be hit by Light Drizzle Steve.
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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:09 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 11):
There is a criteria by which a storm gains the necessary strength to be named, and a list of names to refer to - everyone knows what the name of the next storm will be.

But outside of the weather community, nobody really cares about those things.

All that naming a storm does is make it easier to refer to - "The Blizzard of 2013" is a whole lot more ambiguous than "Nemo". And that's all that should really be read into this.

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RE: The Naming Of Winter Snowstorms

Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:33 pm

Quoting Siren (Reply 11):
The naming of winter storms is done by The Weather Channel, a commercial for-profit weather reporting channel, with no governing authority whatsoever.

Thus not much for people to get their panties in a knot over.

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
All that naming a storm does is make it easier to refer to - "The Blizzard of 2013" is a whole lot more ambiguous than "Nemo". And that's all that should really be read into this.

  

A quick google gives me three 'no-name' storms:

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1993 Storm of the Century - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_Storm_of_the_Century
The Storm of the Century, also known as the '93 Superstorm, or the (Great) Blizzard of ..... In Florida this storm was and still is referred to as the "No Name Storm.

1991 Perfect Storm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_Perfect_Storm
The 1991 Perfect Storm, also known as the Halloween Nor'easter of 1991, and (especially in the years immediately after it took place) as The No-Name Storm, ...

The Perfect Storm, or No-Name Hurricane of 1991

Seems best not to add 'The no-name storm of 2013' to the list, IMHO.
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