PHX787
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It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:03 am

That's right folks.

Snow. In Phoenix. Where, during the summer, it gets to 110 degrees plus.

Yesterday it was actually in the mid 60s and nice and sunny....   

http://www.abc15.com/gallery/news/ne...d-snow-storm-rolls-through-arizona

http://www.abc15.com/dpp/weather/wdt...lert/Winter-Storm-Warning_30243981
Now most of the white stuff that fell here was Graupel, a mix of snow, sleet, and hail....but even at ASU, I built a snowman....this is stuff that's quite unheard of here!

http://i50.tinypic.com/33u75zk.jpg

too crazy
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:28 am

Dare I say it. Global Warming. There I said it, I believe it too. Of course humans have nothing to do with it.  
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:30 am

Not unheard of, just rare...

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/psr/general/history/index.php?page=snow

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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:57 am

Well, it always seems the weather goes cold when ever the drag races are on down at Chandler.

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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:43 am

We got about 2 inches of graupel at my place in Gilbert, along with thunder and lightning. And this was after seeing the Superstitions white to the base earlier in the day.

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):
Dare I say it. Global Warming. There I said it, I believe it too. Of course humans have nothing to do with it.

Weather happens. Always has. Always will.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:51 am

Quoting 4holer (Reply 4):
We got about 2 inches of graupel at my place in Gilbert, along with thunder and lightning. And this was after seeing the Superstitions white to the base earlier in the day.

Did you see KoryC's photo of the mountains from today? It's nuts!
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:01 pm

Many deserts around the world get snow. Even places where the temps get even hotter than PHX in the summer.

The conditions that make a desert also make extreme high and extreme low temps possible.

PHX is at 33N, far from tropical zones.

Only those don't get snow at some point (not counting Hawaii - which does get snow and occasionally has snow skiing, but that is at elevations over 12,000 ft.)
 
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:23 pm

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):
Global Warming

But wait...it's actually colder  
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:52 pm

Enjoy the snow!  
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):
Dare I say it. Global Warming. There I said it, I believe it too. Of course humans have nothing to do with it.

I'm sure Al Gore has an explanation for all of this.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 5:52 pm

Quoting gingersnap (Reply 7):
But wait...it's actually colder

Global Warming theory is that because the overall yearly average temps will rise, that unusual snaps of cold weather will be stronger and more likely to be damaging.

One of the key markers of global warming is not higher extreme temps but that the low temps at night are higher than they were in the past.

That the earth properly cools less often.
 
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:37 pm

One of my former HS teachers posted up a pic of the Superstitions with snow almost down to the base. Something I never saw when I lived in Phoenix -- though a good winter storm would easily cover the top of 1/3 of the mountain.


And that has to be the smallest snowman (or the largest grass blades) I've ever seen.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:33 pm

Quoting Superfly (Reply 8):
Enjoy the snow!   
Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 1):
Dare I say it. Global Warming. There I said it, I believe it too. Of course humans have nothing to do with it.

I'm sure Al Gore has an explanation for all of this.

Of course he will; after all, he invented it... just like the internet.  

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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:52 pm

We didn't get any snow in south Gilbert (near Queen Creek) nor at the ASU Polytechnic campus in east Mesa.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Thu Feb 21, 2013 10:54 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 9):
Global Warming theory is that because the overall yearly average temps will rise, that unusual snaps of cold weather will be stronger and more likely to be damaging.

One of the key markers of global warming is not higher extreme temps but that the low temps at night are higher than they were in the past.

That the earth properly cools less often.

Actually, the more likely explanation to yesterdays snow is that Mrs. Claus talked to Mother Nature to get Mr. Heatmiser to allow a warm day at the North Pole in exchange for Mr. Freezemiser making it snow in Phoenix. Geez, everyone knows THAT!
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:06 pm

Quoting 4holer (Reply 13):
Actually, the more likely explanation to yesterdays snow is that Mrs. Claus talked to Mother Nature to get Mr. Heatmiser to allow a warm day at the North Pole in exchange for Mr. Freezemiser making it snow in Phoenix. Geez, everyone knows THAT!

   Love it!

It's Snowmiser BTW. 
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:18 am

I believe the last time the "inner" metro area had accumulation was in 1988. I've seen it snow in 1998 and 2008, but nothing that stuck.

Thank God I was at work and not on the roads. As bad as it is when it rains here, I can't image anyone being able to drive in snow/sleet/graupel/whatever.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:40 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 6):
Only those don't get snow at some point (not counting Hawaii - which does get snow and occasionally has snow skiing, but that is at elevations over 12,000 ft.)

At the time I'm linking this, the live webcam atop Mauna Loa shows a good bit of snow!
http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/cams/MLcam/images/PAN.jpg
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:44 pm

You guys are being really silly, using this to refute Global Warming. There are more than obvious changes happening with weather patterns, open your eyes, look at news, read articles and don't join the ignorant bandwagon. What's more it is referred to as Climate Change. The earth is a very complex system and all systems tends towards equilibrium. So anthropogenic activities would only exacerbate those tendencies, and that is what we know as climate change. It would ignorant and fool hardy of you to negate the fact that anthropogenic activities are contributing to this change. What's more the build up of GHGs can even eventually induce a global cooling fenomenon, as some authors have argued, but don't expect the entire planet do reflect change the same way, as it is a very dynamic system. But I am sure you all knew that.
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:31 am

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 15):
Thank God I was at work and not on the roads. As bad as it is when it rains here, I can't image anyone being able to drive in snow/sleet/graupel/whatever.

The 101 over in Scottsdale was covered....reminded me of what I drove through in Ohio a few months back to pick my mom up from work   

Quoting captaink (Reply 17):
You guys are being really silly, using this to refute Global Warming.

I wasn't refuting global warming...but then again I don't believe it's man made either   
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RE: It Just Snowed In Phoenix- The Desert!

Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:12 am

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 18):

As an environmental scientist, I think it being man made is a strong expression. However the evidence suggests that human activities have contributed. You can think of it as an exacerbation of the normal warming-cooling cycle. I don't work with climate change because it is too political, and it is an exaggerated topic IMHO, nothing good can come of it as is. But it exists, albeit not exactly as portrayed. I decided to get involved with more immediate problems though, I work in noble area of soil pollution, where evidence is more tangible so to speak,
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