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Mom Hires Strippers For Sons Bday Party

Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:22 am

A mom hired strippers to perform lap dances for her son and his guests at his 16th birthday party....
She wound up getting arrested.... Why couldn't I ever go to parties like this when I was 16...NOT FAIR!


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Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:44 am

And of course, back in the Bay Area, there was this.

  
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:43 am

Hahahah mom of the year award!   

Honestly, they gotta look at this whole "age of consent" thing, because people are going all slutty and horn-doggy by the time they're 14 these days, and while i'm not saying that it's about the pedophiles, but rather, if someone gets in trouble like this, or if someone gets busted sexting at their age, they have a sexual-predator labeled on their record for life.... too much.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:54 am

Anyone else notice that the mom is 33 and has a 16 yo child....SMH, babies raising babies
 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:24 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
She wound up getting arrested



Great, one more idiot off the streets for a while.

Did she get arrested for being dumb or blond or maybe both !
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:11 am

What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:45 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

During the strip show, three girls were fondled under their clothing, said Alameda County Deputy District Attorney Deborah Streicher. She said one 15-year-old paid the dancer, Steve Schmitt, $20 to take off his thong underwear and allow the girl to perform oral sex on him.

On Monday, Schmitt pleaded not guilty to four felony counts of sexual misconduct. The 29-year-old Walnut Creek dancer is free on $100,000 bail. He claims he did not know the girls were underage, because an adult called to set up the engagement. He also has said he was assured all the partygoers were at least 18.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:13 am

This is way over the top.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
Honestly, they gotta look at this whole "age of consent" thing, because people are going all slutty and horn-doggy by the time they're 14 these days, and while i'm not saying that it's about the pedophiles, but rather, if someone gets in trouble like this, or if someone gets busted sexting at their age, they have a sexual-predator labeled on their record for life.... too much.
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):

What's wrong with "hands on" sex education. 16 is the right age to do it.

This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I agree. In this country, age of consent is 16, and I think that's about right. Also, the whole "sex offender" concept in the US should be reviewed in my opinion. I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

In Switzerland, you get that kind of treatment if you actually rape someone, meaning that someone must not be consenting. Or if someone is under 16, *and* the other person is over 18, *and* someone sues. Common sense, I guess.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:39 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
Why couldn't I ever go to parties like this when I was 16...NOT FAIR!
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 2):
Hahahah mom of the year award!
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
This is way over the top.
Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
the whole "sex offender" concept in the US should be reviewed in my opinion. I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

  
I agree with all of the above comments. This lady did nothing wrong and the laws in the US need to be reviewed on this matter - as well as many other laws. There are too many laws on the books that make is so easy to end up in jail. This is total b.s.
Leave this lady alone.

The man in the video wearing the glasses seems like he thinks it's b.s. too but is playing along to get on TV.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

...and that's the way it should be!
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:57 am

Quoting ManuCH (Reply 7):
I mean, they actually jailed the dancer, and he had to post a $100,000 bail? How crazy is that?

Well yeah, the girl was 15 and he was 29, and he let her give him a BJ (in the Pleasanton story in Reply #1), that's statutory rape.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:09 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I trust you mean "noisy enough," for the cops to find out about it & then join the party.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 12:30 pm

I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16. However, I'm sort of on the fence about the arrest. It's not particularly great parenting, there are other ways to educate about sex etc, but I think arrest is probably over the top.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:49 pm

Quoting Airstud (Reply 10):
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 5):
This story would attract police over here only oif the party would be too noisy.

I trust you mean "noisy enough," for the cops to find out about it & then join the party.

Exactly what I was thinking. Just think a cheap plot to a porn movie.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:06 pm

As that great American Larry Flint famously said, "Relax, it's just sex!"...

It's the capitalist system in action. Given the $20 for oral sex, at least one of the strippers was making above minimum wage, and I imagine they all were, $1 at a time. Given how expensive college is, and given how many in the political system don't support public education, we are seeing the inevitable outcome.

I think strippers should complain about the $1 tip tradition. I was first of legal age in 1980 and the traditional tip was $1 back then too. IIRC minimum wage was around $3 back then.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:30 pm

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 3):
Anyone else notice that the mom is 33 and has a 16 yo child....SMH, babies raising babies

100 years ago she'd probably have had 3 or 4 pregnancies by the time she was 15.

I don't see what the big deal with hiring a stripper is all about when kids can get all the hard core porn they want off the internet, buy magazines, shag their partners........................I could go on, some parents are just super nieve or looking for a pay day.

Quoting Airstud (Reply 1):
And of course, back in the Bay Area, there was this.

I have symnpathy for the stripper, I guarantee it's next to impossible to tell a dressed up 14/15/16/17 year old form an 18 year old. Although $20 for a bj is pretty steep, if she was cute I'd let her do it for free.
 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 2:53 pm

Quoting doug_Or (Reply 6):
During the strip show, three girls were fondled under their clothing,

I was writing about the opening post, not that old 98 story, in that case, with 14 or 15 year old girls involved, I'd object as well. But jailing the stripper and having him to post 100K bail is way over the top again.

You have too much police in the USA and a prison and legal industry that needs to be employed.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:07 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 15):
in that case, with 14 or 15 year old girls involved, I'd object as well.

And I bet those 14 or 15 year old girls all dressed up in party clothes looked 18 or 20.

My sister and my wife were able to get into bars and clubs at 14 or so no problems at all, where as I never had a chance.
 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:24 pm

It's the same justice system that will try the same 15-16 yo as adults in criminal cases, go figure !
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:12 pm

Again, the problem with the US justice (in-justice) system is to lock up as many people as possible. Even though her son was 16, the over zealous prosecutors will avenge this case as if it was a 5 year old being molested by an adult forcing the child in to sex. That is just as sickening!
What happened in this case is legal in most of the world.
It bothers me that this young mother could possibly face a harsher penalty and more jail time than a street thug that deliberately does harm to others. Those f--k ups have advocacy groups, community organizers, apologist, public support and media outlets that make excuses for such trash, yet those that make an honest mistake, naive or poor judgement with good intentions will have the book thrown at them.

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16.

No offense but aren't you gay? Were you out of the closet or still undecided? The reason I ask is because when I was 16, I REALLY would have enjoyed this!   

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I think arrest is probably over the top.

  

Quoting Aesma (Reply 17):
It's the same justice system that will try the same 15-16 yo as adults in criminal cases, go figure !

As I said before, the justice (injustice) system is always looking for a reason to lock people up.
What's even worse is that most of these dolts in the legal system go on to be come elected politicians in all branches of government - in both parties.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
I can't honestly claim that I wouldn't have enjoyed that at 16.

Wow at 16 my friends and I used to cut school and go to strip clubs, looking a naked chicks is what every 16 year old I knew was most interested in. We had no internet back then, which I'm happy about, looking at real naked women is far more interesting than looking at them on a computer; young guys these days are going to miss out on a lot IMO.
 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:43 pm

This is one of those things that has been blown out of proportion. The situation falls under the category of funny news, not terrible mother.

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 19):
looking at real naked women is far more interesting than looking at them on a computer

You are too right. But at least the computer is free! 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:47 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 20):

You are too right. But at least the computer is free!

Can't get a lap dance from a computer.
 
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 7:49 pm

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 21):
Can't get a lap dance from a computer.

Laptops   
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:14 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 22):
Laptops

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:55 pm

Bless this noble woman. Humanity needs more like her. Hopefully justice will prevail, and she will be cleared of these wrong accusations.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:48 pm

If one reads through the various comments inside the OP's linked-article; IMHO, there's one comment that stands out and addresses a few things that many on this thread are overlooking. One of them being that this did not happen in a private area.

Exerpt (bold emphasis added):

It was at a bowling alley. That's not a controlled environment. If you want to do this then have it at your house, not in public. Confirm with the parents of the other children that it's ok; don't assume that everyone has the same moral standards as you.

There is a legal age for this, she consented to her child doing it, but she can't consent to others. Same goes for beer. If she bought it for someone's kid, they get drunk, have an accident and kill someone. She's responsibly for it.


   My sentiments exactly.

Another thing to add; this whole story would not have been known, outside of those who attended the party, if pics weren't taken and posted on Facebook.

That said; one has to ask, "Who's the bigger idiot? The mother for inviting the strippers in a public setting or the kids who took & posted the pics on Facebook?"

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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:32 pm

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 25):
That said; one has to ask, "Who's the bigger idiot? The mother for inviting the strippers in a public setting or the kids who took & posted the pics on Facebook?"

Depends if you think sex is idiotic or not.
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 14):
I don't see what the big deal with hiring a stripper is all about when kids can get all the hard core porn they want off the internet, buy magazines, shag their partners.

Its not so much about the hiring of the stripper per se, but more about the fact that the Mother did it for her son.

I would feel extremely awkward if my mother did that for me at that age, especially if they were also hanging around the party to see "whats going on" ..... Yuk !

Quoting Superfly (Reply 18):
The reason I ask is because when I was 16, I REALLY would have enjoyed this!
Quoting kiwirob (Reply 19):
Wow at 16 my friends and I used to cut school and go to strip clubs,

Of cours they did...perfectly normal, but when your parents start getting involved, its another story indeed.

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 25):
That said; one has to ask, "Who's the bigger idiot? The mother for inviting the strippers in a public setting or the kids who took & posted the pics on Facebook?"

Both are idiots.... the apple never falls far from the tree !
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Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:35 pm

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Thread starter):
A mom hired strippers to perform lap dances for her son and his guests at his 16th birthday party....

I guess she figured it would be cheaper and earn him more friends than buying him a car.   
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:41 am

Deep down, you all know that the mother was very wrong and broke reasonable laws in her hosting this party where she provided basically prostitution to the minor boys as well as serving alcohol to minors. Now I don't believe she should get jail time, but I bet she has or will lose her job (if employed). I also think their is a yuck factor with your mom or your friends mom helping you get sexual arousal.
 
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:54 am

I don't have the URL for that thing that DocLightning so often posts. If he were here, and if the subject were male strippers, we'd surely see the ol

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:02 am

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 25):
If one reads through the various comments inside the OP's linked-article; IMHO, there's one comment that stands out and addresses a few things that many on this thread are overlooking. One of them being that this did not happen in a private area.

Exerpt (bold emphasis added):

It was at a bowling alley. That's not a controlled environment. If you want to do this then have it at your house, not in public. Confirm with the parents of the other children that it's ok; don't assume that everyone has the same moral standards as you.

A more up-to-date report says:

Quote:

The birthday party took place in a room at the Spare Time Bowling Center and had 80 people in attendance, the Daily News reported, including other parents.

So it seems to have been a fairly controlled environment with more than just one parent present.

Ref: http://abcnews.go.com/US/mom-alleged...s-birthday-party/story?id=18549491
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 30):
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:10 am

Quoting Airstud (Reply 30):

Where is Doc? But I believe if you had pics of the stripper doing things to underage guys we'd probably get a visit by the party van...
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:18 am

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 27):
Its not so much about the hiring of the stripper per se, but more about the fact that the Mother did it for her son.

I can't work out why that is a problem.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:52 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 34):
I can't work out why that is a problem.


The very idea that sex is on the mind of your mother.... and she's thinking of you.. I find it a bit off putting.
And would you really want to be in the same room as your mother, or for that matter, somebody else's mother/father while some stripper is rubbing her moush all over you.....

No thanks.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:14 am

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 35):
The very idea that sex is on the mind of your mother.... and she's thinking of you.. I find it a bit off putting.

I think it's considerably healthier than the relationship than I had with my mother - or my father - neither of whom would even discuss sex with me, even if I tried to start it.

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 35):
And would you really want to be in the same room as your mother, or for that matter, somebody else's mother/father while some stripper is rubbing her moush all over you.....

That stripper would have been a bloke in my case, and I think it would have been fantastic if my parents - either or both - could have coped with it.

I remember the world in which I grew up with affection, but it was all behind closed doors and secrets and whispers - and lies.

I think what happened here may be much more honest.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 9:37 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 36):
I think it's considerably healthier than the relationship than I had with my mother - or my father - neither of whom would even discuss sex with me, even if I tried to start it.

Well, I'm sorry about that Mariner, but times were different then, and its all relative to the time we live I suppose.

I know full well that my parents have an enjoyable sex life, because sometimes my mother hints that "she had a nice cuddle with my father, but that doesn't mean that I sit down at the table and have a discussion about it, that's there business, and that's all that has to/needs to be said.

And I'd imagine that most kids at 14/15/16 would feel a sense of uneasy discussing anything remotely to do with sex and parents

For example, my best friend once described how his mother walked in on him jerking off in his bedroom one day, he was 15 at the time, he's 43 these days and still cringes when he thinks back about it, and so would I. Some things are better not witnessed, and I think what this mother did in this particular case was perhaps one of those times ?

I understand what you mean generally about being open and the like, but ......

Quoting mariner (Reply 36):
I think what happened here may be much more honest.

Maybe it is ?

Look, by all means, get the kid a stripper for his birthday, buy him a hooker for his 21st, whatever, but do the parents have to be there to watch the "action"....

I/m not too sure about that ?

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:59 pm

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 37):
I know full well that my parents have an enjoyable sex life, because sometimes my mother hints that "she had a nice cuddle with my father, but that doesn't mean that I sit down at the table and have a discussion about it, that's there business, and that's all that has to/needs to be said.

And I'd imagine that most kids at 14/15/16 would feel a sense of uneasy discussing anything remotely to do with sex and parents

I'm not getting how your lack of comfort about communicating about sex with your parents has anything to do with this parent and her son.

Personally, I don't think there's any 'right way' and I don't see how jail time for this mom is going to fix anything.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:23 pm

Quoting Fallap (Reply 24):
Hopefully justice will prevail, and she will be cleared of these wrong accusations.

She may end up paying a huge fine simply because the government is broke at all levels.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:38 pm

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 27):
I would feel extremely awkward if my mother did that for me at that age, especially if they were also hanging around the party to see "whats going on" ..... Yuk !

When I was a kid I did lots of camping with my parents and once, in Italy we befriended that Nordic family that was very involved in the sexual education of their 15 yo daughter, basically they put condoms in her hand and send her fuck, seemed a bit strange to us but I guess it can work.
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:51 pm

Quoting Aesma (Reply 40):
When I was a kid I did lots of camping with my parents and once, in Italy we befriended that Nordic family that was very involved in the sexual education of their 15 yo daughter, basically they put condoms in her hand and send her fuck, seemed a bit strange to us but I guess it can work.

Damn, why couldn't I meet those kind of girls when I was in high school?!?!?!?!
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:51 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 34):
Quoting mariner (Reply 36):

I'm sure healthy parent-child discussions and attitudes towards sex can exist, but even if it is strange to you, the awkwardness is very much alive in a whole lotta people. I'm not saying either is right or wrong but both views need to be respected, not just discarded because one disagrees with it.

That's how it was in this case... the mother obviously did not care, but some of the other kids' parents did. We can debate who was right and wrong all day, but what is wrong with just accepting that others may be uncomfortable and simply communicate with them and warn them, letting them decide if their kids should participate or not?
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Quoting Aesma (Reply 40):
Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 27):
I would feel extremely awkward if my mother did that for me at that age, especially if they were also hanging around the party to see "whats going on" ..... Yuk !

When I was a kid I did lots of camping with my parents and once, in Italy we befriended that Nordic family that was very involved in the sexual education of their 15 yo daughter, basically they put condoms in her hand and send her fuck, seemed a bit strange to us but I guess it can work.

It's one thing for you to want your children to practice safe sex, it's another thing to hire a stripper for your 16 year-old son's birthday party.
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RE: Mom Hires Strippers For Sons Bday Party

Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:24 pm

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 37):
Well, I'm sorry about that Mariner, but times were different then, and its all relative to the time we live I suppose.

Of course.

My grandfather died when my grandmother was still quite young and my grandmother took a female partner for the rest of her life. Her children - my mother and uncles - were appalled, would never discuss it and when the two women were old and infirm forced them apart to die separated from each other.

I was forty before my mother could even admit the truth of the relationship to me. I could wish my family has been as open and honest as this family appears to be.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 42):
That's how it was in this case... the mother obviously did not care, but some of the other kids' parents did.

  

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RE: Mom Hires Strippers For Sons Bday Party

Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:59 pm

Quoting TheCommodore (Reply 27):
I would feel extremely awkward if my mother did that for me at that age, especially if they were also hanging around the party to see "whats going on" ..... Yuk !

So would I, but there are kids who wouldn't, and I'm not going to judge them by my own moral standards.

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 29):
Deep down, you all know that the mother was very wrong and broke reasonable laws in her hosting this party where she provided basically prostitution to the minor boys as well as serving alcohol to minors.

First of all, the "endangering the welfare of a child" law in New York is not reasonable. I know this from serving on a jury where a case involving the law came up, and when the law was read out I was amazed at how broad the interpretation of what could endanger the welfare of a child was. She may have broken the law, but that doesn't make the law reasonable.

Second of all, I'm not convinced that hiring strippers for a 16th birthday party really is wrong. I wouldn't do it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It's crazy how uptight the US culture gets about sex - I know we're all here because some Puritans decided to cross the pond, but we really need to get a grip on reality.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 7:26 pm

Quoting Mir (Reply 45):
It's crazy how uptight the US culture gets about sex

That is very true. Combined that with our societies lust to 'go after' someone, judge them in the court of public opinion, a media hell-bent on sensationalism, overzealous law enforcement and politicians that want to make a name for themselves by either 'getting tough' on crime or 'protecting the children'.
As far as the state of New York goes, is anything legal there anymore?
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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:12 pm

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 29):
Deep down, you all know that the mother was very wrong and broke reasonable laws in her hosting this party where she provided basically prostitution to the minor boys as well as serving alcohol to minors. Now I don't believe she should get jail time, but I bet she has or will lose her job (if employed). I also think their is a yuck factor with your mom or your friends mom helping you get sexual arousal.
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Quoting Airstud (Reply 30):
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Mom:

Mom with son:

Son with mom's present:

Mom after reporting of son's present:
Quoting Mir (Reply 45):
First of all, the "endangering the welfare of a child" law in New York is not reasonable. I know this from serving on a jury where a case involving the law came up, and when the law was read out I was amazed at how broad the interpretation of what could endanger the welfare of a child was. She may have broken the law, but that doesn't make the law reasonable.

Second of all, I'm not convinced that hiring strippers for a 16th birthday party really is wrong. I wouldn't do it, but that doesn't make it wrong. It's crazy how uptight the US culture gets about sex - I know we're all here because some Puritans decided to cross the pond, but we really need to get a grip on reality.

Yes I agree, we very much overreact about sexual stuff here in the USA. However it appears that the mom grossly erred by not making sure (and getting signed releases) that all the parents were OK with the strippers and in ensuring that alcohol was not an issue. Those are two very valid points. But as others have mentioned, arresting, charging, and jailing the mom will really do nothing to help improve or make society safer. This is sexual and sexual objectification, but is it any worse than a laser tag party where people have fun hunting and shooting people? No one is getting hurt. Imagine holding a laser tag party in Columbine or now in Sandyhook. It may me be grossly stupid but it is not really hurting someone physically of very different from many other other parties.

Mom may have been criminally stupid but that is really the worst of her "crime". This is mostly a waste of time and money and her life.

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Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:36 pm

I swear I was having deja vu when I saw this thread!  

Mom Indicted For Hiring Stripper For Teen (by CORULEZ05 May 29 2005 in Non Aviation)

Couple Hire Stripper For Son's Birthday (by Clickhappy Jul 8 2005 in Non Aviation)

Mom Sends Stripper To Schoolboy's Classroom (by SkyGourmet Nov 9 2007 in Non Aviation)
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RE: Mom Hires Strippers For Sons Bday Party

Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:55 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 42):
We can debate who was right and wrong all day, but what is wrong with just accepting that others may be uncomfortable and simply communicate with them and warn them, letting them decide if their kids should participate or not?

  

Quoting tugger (Reply 47):
Mom may have been criminally stupid but that is really the worst of her "crime". This is mostly a waste of time and money and her life.

Some people should be locked up for there own good.   

Quoting tugger (Reply 47):
This is mostly a waste of time and money and her life.

And lets not forget about the son and the embarrassment and humiliation he must be going through.

BTW
Why is his face blurred out in the pics ?
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