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Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:52 pm

3 years on, they've decided to apologise and agree to Turkey's full compensation.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=105151
"Prime Minister Netanyahu expressed an apology to the Turkish people for any error that may have led to the loss of life, and agreed to complete the agreement for compensation," the Israeli statement said

This is very good news indeed. It has taken far too long but at least it will hopefully pave the way for a normalization in ties!
 
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:54 pm

Under pressure from Barack Obama.

After Mavi Marmara Turkey sought alliances with Arab neighbours. The Arab Spring threw a spanner in the works however and now Turkey seeks to patch up its frienship with Israel.
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:41 pm

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 1):
Turkey seeks to patch up its frienship with Israel.

 

I think its the other way around.

Israel needs Turkey much more. Surrounded in a sea of potential enemies, Turkey can be a very valuable ally to Israel in many ways - economic, strategic, trade, military(remember previously IAF trains in Turkey).

Obama cleverly managed to get Netanyahu to begin patching things up with Turks.
 
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:55 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 2):
Obama cleverly managed to get Netanyahu to begin patching things up with Turks.

  

As NY Times article says -

it is a "great win for Turkey," which has been demanding the apology.

Turkey got "everything it wanted" from the apology, including acknowledgement of Israel's "operational errors" and offer of compensation.

"This is an extraordinary event and a completely unexpected one," our correspondent said. "This has been enormously damaging schism between these two countries [Israel and Turkey]".


Obama said that the "moment was right" for Israel and Turkey to move beyond and resume previously cordial relations.
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:30 am

Quoting RobertNL070 (Reply 1):
After Mavi Marmara Turkey sought alliances with Arab neighbours.

Turkey has previously had friendly relations with its Arab neighbours, even before the Mavi Marmara incident. It was for that reason Turkey could play a mediating role. That possibility disappeared during the caustic dispute between Israel and Turkey, and in part helps explain why Egypt was able to act as mediator between Israel and Hamas more recently.

Certainly the move is influenced by events in Syria in particular. Israel is concerned that there may be attacks on Israel and an attempt to reclaim the Golan Heights, while Turkey is facing both a large influx of refugees and is reluctant to become dragged into a full-scale war. Both countries have an interest in seeing that the conflict in Syria does not spill over into Lebanon, so now is an ideal time to patch up their differences.

I wonder though if a part of the US's prompting of a resumption of "normalcy" was Obama's efforts to seek a diplomatic solution to the alleged aim of Iran to procure nuclear weapons? Turkey and Iran are on friendly terms, a relationship which seemed to improve during the tension between Turkey and Israel. The two countries have well-established economic links, with many Iranian tourists visiting Turkey and Turkey importing gas form Iran. Last year Turkey was instrumental in bringing together a meeting between the leaders of Iran and Egypt, the first such meeting for several years. Is Obama contemplating trying to encourage Turkey to act as mediator to influence Iran and thereby reassure Israel of its security?
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:12 am

Quoting virgin744 (Thread starter):
apology to the Turkish people for any error

Netanyahu starts to become a real statesman ---- and realises that to ally with the major statesman in the Eastern Med makes sensel As a realist he realises that Mr Erdogan is, whatever results, the REAL winner of the crisis in the Greek sector of Cyprus. Mr Erdogan is now host to almost half a million Arabs from Syria, he is head of governmert of a country which is a prime supplier of industrial stuff to the Arab World
 
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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:02 pm

There is another movement going on as well concerning Turkey: The jailed leader of the Kurdish PKK guerilla group (the biggest Kurdish separatist movement) has called for a ceasefire and ordered his troops to withdraw from Turkey. Similarly it looks that at the same time Turkey is suspending their operations against the PKK. Annd both orders seem to be obeyed by the troops on the ground, and serious talks have been proposed.
From what I´ve read from several sources it looks that after 30 years of war both the Kurdish and Turkish civilian populations have had enough of it. Might there e peace in the Middle East coming?

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RE: Israel Apologises To Turkey For Mavi Marmara

Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:57 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 2):
Israel needs Turkey much more. Surrounded in a sea of potential enemies, Turkey can be a very valuable ally to Israel in many ways - economic, strategic, trade, military(remember previously IAF trains in Turkey).

They are valuable to each other. But yes, Israel needs Turkey more.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 3):
As NY Times article says -

it is a "great win for Turkey," which has been demanding the apology.

Actually it's more of a win for Israel. Implicit in this kiss-and-make-up routine, is that Turkey will not (likely) attempt to lead another flotilla to the Gaza. Advantage: Israel.
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