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N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:34 am

What is the meaning of those two guys standing guard at the border, with half of their bodies out?
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Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:29 pm

No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

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ROK soldiers standing guard at the JSA between the blue buildings. View from the south. All three face the North. The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.
 
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:43 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):
No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

That sounds good to me....

I would like to see that picture with the addition of the North Korean gardener who trims the bushes.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:44 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):
The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.

I guess the guy in the middle drew the short straw then.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 1:50 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 2):
I would like to see that picture with the addition of the North Korean gardener who trims the bushes.

Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground behind that little wall, which, BTW , is broken. Shame on NK. hopefully the beloved leader does not see that.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:01 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

Everyone likes a well-trimmed bush. Well, maybe not Superfly......but most people.  
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Shame on NK. hopefully the beloved leader does not see that.

I'm sure someone will take a trip to the wasteland for a few years for that.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:50 pm

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):

Quote:
ROK soldiers standing guard at the JSA between the blue buildings. View from the south. All three face the North. The two ROK soldiers on either side are deliberately obscuring half of their bodies. This is both to offer a smaller target to DPRK troops, and to allow them to signal discreetly to the South if required.

'Seems about right to me. I'll buy that. Thanks for the explanation. Cheers.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 6:22 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
Me too. watching the bushes getting trimmed is always interesting.

I wonder what kind of garden tools they use? I can see some Korean guy using some ancient Ransomes mower to cut the grass.

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground behind that little wall,

There is probably one gardener with at least two soldiers watching him.
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 7:00 pm

Quoting falstaff (Reply 7):
There is probably one gardener with at least two soldiers watching him.

Reminds me of the time I was in West Berlin and there were East German workers repairing the western side of the wall that ran in front of the Brandenburger Tor. There was a little cage built around them, there were three workers, one guard in the cage with them, and three guards on standing on the wall watching over.

A glorious workers paradise for sure.....

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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:03 pm

Quoting tugger (Reply 8):
A glorious workers paradise for sure.....

Yeah, but remember that cage was an anti-capitalist cage that protects the worker from the ... from the ... erm ... you know .... bad influences and stuff.

To me, calling the Berlin wall "antikapitalistischer Schutzwall"* is still the euphemism to rule them all.



* literally: anti-capitalist protection rampart
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Sun Apr 14, 2013 11:27 am

Quoting CPH-R (Reply 1):

No idea on the authenticity of the statement, but:

That is actually right. It was explained to me that way when I visited the DMZ last year.

They also have one guard in the buildings to make sure that 1. Nobody messes with anything in there and 2. Nobody jumps through the only operable window and defects to the North.

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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Sun Apr 14, 2013 6:07 pm

Quoting tz757300 (Reply 10):
They also have one guard in the buildings to make sure that 1. Nobody messes with anything in there and 2. Nobody jumps through the only operable window and defects to the North.

Why on earth would anyone defect to the North!!!
 
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Sun Apr 14, 2013 7:59 pm

Quoting flyingthe757 (Reply 11):
Why on earth would anyone defect to the North!!!

I'm guessing it more common during the Cold War, when people of the communist persuasion were more prevalent in non-communist societies, and had no idea what North Korea was actually like.

Case in point:

Case in point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Airlines_Flight_351

Apparently, after 34 years the hijackers realized that North Korea was not the Socialist Utopia they had imagined after all, and asked to be allowed to return to Japan.

"Um, yeah, see, we'd all prefer to go to prison instead of staying here..." That must have gone over great with their hosts.

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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Wed Apr 17, 2013 7:06 am

I highly recommend this documentary (which is available on Netflix streaming services), about a US Army defector to North Korea. He seems mostly "ok" with life, but one wonders how his life really is.

http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Line-James-Joseph-Dresnok/dp/B000XJD3HU
 
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RE: N And S Korea Border Patrol Soldiers.

Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:43 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 4):
And to make sure that the guy does not escape I am sure they have put some land mines in the ground

I'm currently stationed in South Korea and have taken a few tours up to the DMZ. Really interesting for those who have never gone. Apparently in order for the DPRK soldiers to be eligible for border guard duty, they all normally have a wife and kids or some sort of ties that would prevent them from defecting south. If they defected, their families would almost certainly end up in the prison camps...

Quoting johnboy (Reply 13):
I highly recommend this documentary (which is available on Netflix streaming services), about a US Army defector to North Korea. He seems mostly "ok" with life, but one wonders how his life really is.

Saw that movie a few months back. Was really interesting watch. I thought his blonde haired blue eyed son was a real trip though lol.
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