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Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:36 am

Will Maybach be back again one day?

I have seen quite a number of them in Hong Kong, New York, LA etc
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:53 am

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Maybach be back again one day?

No. Mercedes is planning a new model under the Mercedes marque that will be above the S-Class.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:48 am

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):

Will Maybach be back again one day?

Yes, of course. It's coming back with Duesenberg. Just wait.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:50 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
Mercedes is planning a new model under the Mercedes marque that will be above the S-Class.

Not they aren't, what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class, not a model above the S class.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:53 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 3):
what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class

They should bring the 600 back. Life as a dictator has never been the same since the last one rolled off the line.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:22 am

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Will Maybach be back again one day?

With any luck it won't.
Lest they make a travesty of the name again.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:27 pm

I dont think and dont hope that they´ll try to revive the name again. Expensive mistake. There will be a ultraluxury Mercedes based on the S-Class with hopefully a more distinct body, positioned somewhere between the upper end of the traditional S-Class and the late Maybach. I expect it to be a rival to the Bentley Flying Spur and RR Ghost, in Stuttgart fashion with tons of gimmicks.
A classic fourdoor, and a stretch are announced (danger here, as Mercedes never managed to build an attractive stretch since the 600 of the 60s!). Possible is also a fourdoor convertible.

The "new" Maybach was a mistake from the start. First the name was dead for more than 50 years, hardly anyone rermembered them. Then the original Maybachs, while being Germanys ultraluxury brand, the German Rolls-Royce, with few exceptions never carried bodies as elegant as many of the English original. Maybachs were seen as a statement of extreme wealth, not taste. They also sold in microscopic numbers. In that sense the Mercedes-Maybach was a worthy successor.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:12 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 4):
They should bring the 600 back. Life as a dictator has never been the same since the last one rolled off the line.

Aren't they producing the S600 still?
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:45 am

Quoting United Airline (Reply 7):
Aren't they producing the S600 still?

Different car: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_600
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:25 pm

Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque. They safely occupy the upper stratosphere of the automotive world already; if anything the Maybach dragged the marque down with its unfortunate connections to rappers, oligarchs and sheikhs with far more money than class.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:34 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):
Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque.

Because they lost out on Rolls to BMW and Bentley to VW, their main German competition. Resurrecting what had historically been another prestigious nameplate was their less than successful consolation prize.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:59 pm

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):

Never understood why Mercedes-Benz thought they needed a halo marque. They safely occupy the upper stratosphere of the automotive world already

In the "massmarket" lower luxury class that is somewhat true, Mercedes rules. But the brand cant compete with RR or Bentley when it comes to the "upper stratosphere". Where Mercedes ends, RR only starts. Next to a Phantom a full-spec S600 looks like a VW Golf next to a Jaguar - pretty poor.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 10):

Exactly. Mercedes launched Maybach because they had an inferiority complex after VW snapped Bentley and RR was taken by BMW. For once Mercedes failed miserably. To blame a considerable part of its buyers, mainly rappers, oligarchs or sheikhs for its failure is not quite fair, as the Maybach itself had no true class apart from using expensive materials, from the beginning it looked like a blown up bling-bling 90s S-class.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:55 am

Problem One was that The Maybach of our generation was essentially just a gussied-up version of the S-Class Mercedes.....and a thinly-disguised one at that. Problem Two was that who currently alive even remembered the "Maybach" name? Insofar as so many car companies trade on brand equity -- how much brand equity was generated by a name few people had ever heard of? It would be like Audi trying to bring back the "Auto Union" name. Or Cadillac bring back the LaSalle nameplate. Daimler-Benz would have been better off developing an updated version of the 600 "Grosser" limousine which was, in it's day. simply the most amazing, complex, high-tech, luxurious, bad-ass rig of its time. The Maybach didn't really bring anything special to the party in its price range. It was a just a stretched S-class with more gingerbread.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:05 am

Quoting kiwirob (Reply 3):
Not they aren't, what they are planning is multiple versions of the S Class, not a model above the S class.

Some would say that's exactly what the Maybach was. I've seen it referred to in multiple places as the "Mercedes Maybach." For what it's worth, I've read both the S-Class variant and the separate model stories but I don't know which is the latest.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 9):
if anything the Maybach dragged the marque down with its unfortunate connections to rappers, oligarchs and sheikhs with far more money than class.

That sort of thing has not had a negative effect on any other brands.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 4:11 am

A lot of people just hope Mercedes-Benz comes back someday. It's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:10 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 13):

Some would say that's exactly what the Maybach was.

Which is what it was originally designed to be, I'm sure if Mercedes had started with a clean sheet, it wouldn't have looked like a fat S class.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:18 am

Quoting Flighty (Reply 14):
t's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.

Half the price? They cost oin € at least as much as they cost in DM back in 1994 and that is about double.
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:25 pm

Quoting Flighty (Reply 14):
A lot of people just hope Mercedes-Benz comes back someday. It's been gone since about 1994. Today's M-B are half the price (and half the quality) of traditional Mercedes-Benz cars.

Are you joking??? The quality maybe be a bit lower than in 1994 (most owners I know are quite happy, but the 2010 Merc of a friend of mine recently spend 5 months in the dealership, so faulty is it), the prices surely went up like a rocket and have never shrunk compared to the competition.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Wed May 01, 2013 1:05 am

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):

Looks like a typo, probably meant double the price and half the quality.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Thu May 02, 2013 7:46 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 16):

IIRC E- class and S-class price points in dollars haven't moved since thte early 90s. The e- class was $55000 then and is today. Especially when you consider power, size etc. After inflation.... $55000 today isn't what it was in 1993. It is half. (Toyota Camry did the same thing).

Go to a car show sometime... Mercedes feel like a Toyota now. And even Toyota don't feel as good as real Toyotas used to.
 
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RE: Will Maybach Be Back Again One Day?

Thu May 02, 2013 8:11 pm

Anything is possible.

The Viper is back and I just read that Nissan is bringing back Datsun...
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