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Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:28 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-22308165

Good old UK. If I was buying this product I think I may have a clue as to whats inside  
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:00 am

Quoting SoJo (Thread starter):
Good old UK. If I was buying this product I think I may have a clue as to whats inside

I've seen this here too. A packet of branded nuts, and on the back the rider "Warning: this product contains nuts".
Hilarious . . .
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:32 pm

Quoting Braybuddy (Rep 1) "...Warning:this product contains nuts". Hilarious.

Maybe, maybe not considering there probably is a warning regulation (even though it may be obvious as to what the product is) and manufacturers are deathly wary of the inevitable fines they could receive, not to mention the inevitable private law suits they would have to defend. Not knowing how serious some allergic reactions to nuts (especially peanuts) some people can have from not only ingestion but simple contact, I didn't think highly about Southwest Airlines discontinuing the free peanuts from their flights. I understand now. I have a helper here on the farm who can't even get peanut butter on his fingers without choking.

But...I agree that some warning labels are really a bit over the top. Walmart (and other store's plastic produce bags here in the U.S.) have danger of suffocation for babies and children printed on them including "This bag or any of its components may cling to the nose and mouth and prevent breathing." One would think a person ignorant enough to not know this, he/she wouldn't be able to read anyway. best regards...jack
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Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:45 pm

Yes, this product contains nuts - but the article specifically says "the presence of peanuts was not declared on Booths' own brand packets of monkey nuts", which is the reason the product recall was issued.

Why is this important?

Because not every nut allergy sufferer suffers allergies to every type of nut - "monkey nuts" can be peanuts, certainly, but they can also be pine nuts and a number of other nuts.

Now, it may seem fecking obvious to you and I that the vast majority of monkey nuts sold are peanuts, but what about a carer for a child who has just been told that the child has an allergy to "peanuts", and thinks monkey nuts are perfectly acceptable as they don't know that they are infact peanuts 99% of the time? Hell, I had to double check to make sure monkey nuts were indeed peanuts!

So on the face of it, yes its a stupid recall, but when you actually look at it there is reasoning behind it.
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 3:26 pm

"Peanuts" aren't nuts, actually. They are related to peas and beans.

Almonds aren't nuts either.

So some declarations are not quite as obvious as they may seem and allergies can be specific.
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 4:34 pm

Quoting Klaus (Reply 4):
"Peanuts" aren't nuts, actually. They are related to peas and beans.

Almonds aren't nuts either.

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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:15 pm

RE: Klause (Rep 4)..."Peanuts" aren't nuts, actually...."

Right. They are legume family, but how many times have we seen, say, a bag of "Dry Roasted Legumes"?  

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RE: Are They Nuts?

Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:57 pm

This is nothing. Smoked salmon apparently contains fish - or so the label says anyway.....
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 6:37 am

Quoting Klaus (Reply 4):
"Peanuts" aren't nuts, actually.

Neither are coconuts. 
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:34 pm

Quoting afterburner (Reply 8):
Neither are coconuts.

Sounds about right. 

What group do they belong to, then?
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:45 pm

"Cigarettes cause lung cancer"...no kidding
"May contain traces of dairy" (on a yogurt drink)...you don't say?
"Pinching hazard" (on a hydraulic press)....a press applies pressure by sandwiching two things together...
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:12 pm

Quoting jagflyer (Reply 10):
"May contain traces of dairy" (on a yogurt drink)...you don't say?
"Pinching hazard" (on a hydraulic press)....a press applies pressure by sandwiching two things together...

Yup, agreed with both of these examples, but...

Quoting jagflyer (Reply 10):
"Cigarettes cause lung cancer"...no kidding

... not so much this one.

Its far from "obvious" that smoking does anything at all - the other examples given in this thread largely have a direct consequence to them, be it a crushed body part, an allergic reaction or whatever, but smoking does not cause cancer immediately and thus the correlation is not there for someone to make without ample amounts of research.
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:44 pm

Quoting jagflyer (Reply 10):
"Cigarettes cause lung cancer"...no kidding
"May contain traces of dairy" (on a yogurt drink)...you don't say?
"Pinching hazard" (on a hydraulic press)....a press applies pressure by sandwiching two things together...

Yeah, but when you're allergic to pea"nuts", you're actually not necessarily allergic to nuts, or vice versa. Almonds are another thing again.

Common language use is sometimes not clinically precise, and what we commonly call "nuts" is a prime example of that.
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Mon Apr 29, 2013 3:51 pm

I've got a bag of nuts. Thankfully my other half isn't allergic to them   
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:39 am

TIL that you can legitimately call peanuts "Monkey Nuts".

I'm going to drop this gem on some people at work today and see what we get...
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Tue May 07, 2013 9:31 pm

I bought a bottle of water from Morrisons. It's labelled "suitable for vegetarians."
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Tue May 07, 2013 9:42 pm

I have seen such warnings on peanut bags and I find them ridiculous too. If someone with allergies or their caretaker do not know what constitutes a peanut they should maybe start from the list of ingredients.

The worst offender for warnings can be found in CA:
"WARNING: This building contains chemicals known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm."

It is very hard to find a single building/indoor area that does not have this warning, so, in the end its pretty pointless to have. At the same time, please do not let us know which food products we eat contain GMO crops, apparently that would constitute excessive labeling and burden us with unnecessary costs!

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 2):
I didn't think highly about Southwest Airlines discontinuing the free peanuts from their flights.

I am pretty sure I had free peanuts on my last Southwest flight.
 
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Wed May 08, 2013 1:51 am

Quoting lewis (Reply 16):

Yeah, those Prop 65 warnings are absurd... but we can't have GMO labeling. Go figure.
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RE: Are They Nuts?

Wed May 08, 2013 2:07 am

Quoting Braniff747SP (Reply 17):
Yeah, those Prop 65 warnings are absurd

Gov. Brown is proposing a host of changes to Prop. 65:

Prop. 65 changes proposed by Jerry Brown

While I'm generally not a fan of changes to voter approved legislation, the law has been around since 1986, I voted for it, and the time has come to tighten it up after over a quarter century of practical application. A lawsuit against a bank for not posting Prop. 65 signs regarding the dangers of second-hand smoke near its outdoor ATM machines, for example, is pretty ridiculous.

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