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Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 6:09 am

Wow! I should have titled this, "world's longest link" ! I have never seen such a long link as this is before.............
a pretty good story.

http://news.yahoo.com/rat-meat-sold-...S05ZmM1LTE3YWMxNDcxZGIwYQ--;_ylv=3

But it's not about the link; it's about some shady characters in China who have been catching rats, foxes, minks and who knows what else, ( roadkill maybe ? ), and selling it to poor farmers as "lamb".........

So.........how "appetizing" does this "lamb" look to you ?



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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 6:22 am

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
But it's not about the link; it's about some shady characters in China who have been catching rats, foxes, minks and who knows what else, ( roadkill maybe ? ), and selling it to poor farmers as "lamb".........

The Chinese are becoming more and more capitalist.

[Edited 2013-05-04 23:23:14]
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 7:16 am

Quoting Confuscius (Reply 1):
The Chinese are becoming more and more capitalist.

And they're pretty good at getting government out of the way, too.
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 7:29 am

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
So.........how "appetizing" does this "lamb" look to you ?

Quite! When I was young, my parents always made real shish kebab, from lamb, just like in the photo:

« Photo credit: Yahoo! Finance/AP Photo/Larry Crowe - Lamb Kebabs are seen in this Tuesday, June 17, 2008 photo. »

Whatcha got against lamb?

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
But it's not about the link

Oh, but it is. That's the best part. Read the sub-title.

"Rat meat sold as lamb in latest China food safety scandal; top court beefs up food safety laws"

You just can't make this stuff up.      
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 8:07 am

I don't know what it is with links............before I clicked on it to post it, that damned link was six whole lines, side to side, and now it shrunk !
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 8:08 am

Quoting Geezer (Thread starter):
So.........how "appetizing" does this "lamb" look to you ?

It looks pretty good to me.
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 8:33 am

Quoting Geezer (Reply 4):
side to side, and now it shrunk !

Don't worry Charlie. The link is still that long but what is displayed has been truncated.

While fox and mink might not sound appetising to some people, neither does witchetty grubs, snails and frogs legs to others. Food adulteration is a problem but a lot of what we regard as acceptable to eat is conditioned by custom.

The absence of regulation and/ or lack of enforcement always leads to unscrupulous types taking advantage. And it's not just in China. It isn't all that long ago we were reading about food fraud in the EU where products sold as being made from prime beef actually contained horse meat. Nothing wrong with horse meat as long as it is correctly labelled as such.

I wonder what the penalty in China for selling rat as lamb is. Stir-fried pork, anyone?
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Sun May 05, 2013 6:57 pm

I've always just presumed I've been eating rat down at my local Chinese for the past 20 years. To discover it's not rat would be an even greater surprise.

Those cheeky Chinese people. What will they think of next?
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 12:10 pm

What#s the rpoblem? I heard that a rat's tail cooked in a soup gives the real spivce to the soup, betters it by far.

In the eastern part of Germany food inspectors found a skinned fox ready to be cooked, grilled, broiled or whatever. in the fridge of a Vietnamese restaurant. It was not reported whether the poor fox was road kill or came too close to the waste bin of said restaurant.  

As we all know, if it has four legs and is not a table or a chair.......


 
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 12:32 pm

Here it's often monkey meat smuggled from Africa.
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 2:03 pm

Well, it's all protein. I think the real problem here is mislabeling and abscence of some sort of safety inspection device for consumer protection. Of course, if the various meats were labeled accurately, it might affect sales as some people would not choose to ingest because of psychological, religous or other reasons.

Years ago there was a restaurant on Belle Ilse in the Detroit River that served muskrat that was quite tastey. The law pulled the plug on that because of no inspection process. Similarly, there was an old tavern on the Hazel Park side of 8 Mile Road (Detroit city border) called The Sportsman's, lomg ago leveled for a mini shopping mall, that yearly had a "game dinner" with various wild animal meats. Similarly, the law 86'd that until the saloon owners figured out that the inspectors couldn't stop them if they didn't sell the feast, but only accepted donations. Now, this was some 4 decades ago, and I don't know if those laws have been relaxed, strengthened or what, but then it appeared to be mostly about money and not safety. regards...jack
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 2:45 pm

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 10):
I think the real problem here is mislabeling and abscence of some sort of safety inspection

Rats carry or sorts of diseases, a fox can be infested with rabies, worms that would be happy to find a new host in humans. Besides that species which are not on the menue of most people are nauseating, simply disgusting.
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 3:11 pm

PanHam (Rep 11); right you are about diseases and infestations being carried by rats, foxes, etc, but that is true for all meats, hence food inspections. I wonder if G. Gordon Liddy's rat meal was inspected  

What is nauseating or simply disgusting to some people (myself included, for some foodstuffs) is quite the norm and part of a regular diet in many cultures. Live grubs come to mind.

Not choosing to but basically having to, I have eaten worms, spiders and such in the military, but other things like rattlesnake, frog legs, octopus, and various wild mammals I find quite good when some (I.E. as a few relatives that I will not identify) find same "nauseating, simply disguisting" as you put it. Regards...jack
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 3:17 pm

I like this comment

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The difference is that in China they'll probably out these guys against the wall and shoot them. If it was an American company doing this, government would make a show trial, slap them on the hands and the stockholders would give the CEO a big bonus.

In Norway it's often rotting meat smuggled into Norway in the back of unrefrigerated vans by Polish smugglers, they sell this dodgy meat to immigrant run Italian and kebab take-aways outlets.
 
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Mon May 06, 2013 3:24 pm

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 12):
meats, hence food inspections.

that goes without saying

Quoting cptkrell (Reply 12):
I have eaten worms, spiders and such in the military

you do that knowingly, you can always opt out. I am sure I eat dog meat on at least one of my visits to Korea, not that I barked afterwards but the taste was different. The good thing that carries you through genuine oriental dinners is that they always have Brandy or Whiskey on hand.

Fact is, that a restaurat owner who sells, in our neck of the woods, fox as pork commits not only fraud but endangers the life and well being of his customers as well. . The average customer is not expecting to eat rats , foxes etc.

Besides, the restaurant owner, at least in the US , Europe etc., should read or ask his counsel about product liability.
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Wed May 08, 2013 5:49 pm

Quoting PanHAM (Reply 11):
Rats carry or sorts of diseases, a fox can be infested with rabies, worms that would be happy to find a new host in humans. Besides that species which are not on the menue of most people are nauseating, simply disgusting.

the story is very publicized in China. The point there is not so much about the "diseases", as they may not be a problem with thorough cooking the Chinese style, it is more about cheating the public. You certainly don't do "medium rare" there.
 
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RE: Latest Food Scandal In China

Wed May 08, 2013 6:38 pm

I'm happy to hear that the libertarian mindset is alive and thriving with some in China. Where people are looking out for their best interest (profit) with little regard to damn annoying government regulations.

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