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Wimbledon 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:07 pm

The fortnight starts off with a stunner. Darcis of Belgium knocks out Nadal in straight sets, 7-6, 7-6, 6-4.
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:52 pm

Wow......

In other news, Federer wins his first-round match in 68 minutes.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:01 pm

shocked, totally shocked at that, ah well it makes it slightly easier for Fed to win another title.
 
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:05 pm

Chris Evert commented on ESPN that the two weeks between the French and Wimbledon isn't enough, especially for the top players. She said next year's schedule gives them a three-week break, where the players will have more time to transition from the clay court to grass. Makes some sense.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:20 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 3):
Chris Evert commented on ESPN that the two weeks between the French and Wimbledon isn't enough

Has it always been two weeks? I was actually very surprised to see that Wimbledon had started, so soon after Roland Garros ended. I knew they were close together, but I didn't think quite this close.
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Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:28 pm

It's just the luck of the calendar. The French begins on the last Sunday of May, Wimbledon begins on the last Monday of June.

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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:46 pm

If Hewitt/Isner match-up in the third round, hopefully whoever wins that can make it to the quarterfinals against Federer. That would be a good match to watch. Mahut/Murray in the third round could also be interesting.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:36 am

I felt this way last year as well, but geez, I'm not sure there's a more boring commentator than Boris Becker.

Too bad, cause I used to love watching him play when I was young.
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:38 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
The fortnight starts off with a stunner. Darcis of Belgium knocks out Nadal in straight sets, 7-6, 7-6, 6-4.

Just watched a replay of most of that match. Unbelievable - not often you see someone out-Nadal Nadal.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:14 am

I think Murray has the best shot to win the Gentlemen's Title. He won the Olympics at Wimbledon and beat Federer to do it. He is also the reigning US Open champ, so he has the ability and now he knows it. Federer is old in tennis years, which are worse than dog years. He also can get very whiny very quickly. While the grass lifts his game, his back is shaky and he no longer has the advantage of winning the first three games during the warm-up that he used to. As for Djokovic, apart from 2011 when he was able to disconnect from reality and play lights-out tennis for about 8 months, he can go on walkabout faster than just about any great player I've ever seen since McEnroe. I also get the feeling that he needs to play lights out tennis in order to win, with not a lot of thought or point construction. The other top guys do a better job saving their top gear for when they really need it. He's also a bit of a drama queen and if he plays Murray in the final the crowd will be squarely in the other guy's corner, which visibly irks him.

The women's tournament is Serena's to lose. Not much more to say. Barring an injury (based on her history it's not too far away), she has to have a really bad day--that's also coming, just not before August--and Sharapova or Azarenka have to have an awesome day. Sharapova didn't do herself any favors taking a jab at Serena in the press conference. Serena already has a massive chip on her shoulder and she holds grudges. About Azarenka, the fake tears she shed this morning was a rather sickening display. And I couldn't help but notice the number of slice backhands she hit, screeching while hitting a ball with next to nothing pace.

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
The fortnight starts off with a stunner. Darcis of Belgium knocks out Nadal in straight sets, 7-6, 7-6, 6-4.

He wasn't moving well, that was obvious. But he was also blitzed off the court. Not much he could do about it.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
shocked, totally shocked at that, ah well it makes it slightly easier for Fed to win another title.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say unless Murray and Djokovic both lose early that's not going to happen.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 2):
Chris Evert commented on ESPN that the two weeks between the French and Wimbledon isn't enough, especially for the top players. She said next year's schedule gives them a three-week break, where the players will have more time to transition from the clay court to grass. Makes some sense.

Didn't seem to hurt her too much. The seven-time Roland Garros champion only once lost before the semi finals of Wimbledon, which she won three times with a game completely ill-suited to grass (and would've won more had it not been for a gal named Martina), won them both in the same year at least once, and six times played both finals in the same year.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 4):
Has it always been two weeks? I was actually very surprised to see that Wimbledon had started, so soon after Roland Garros ended. I knew they were close together, but I didn't think quite this close.

Yup. And for about thirty years the collective "they" have been squawking about it. The two-week break doesn't seem to hamper the best of the best. The greatest of the greats (barring Pete Sampras, who was never going to play well on the clay) have either won them back to back or performed well at both events, and the ones who complain are usually ones who haven't performed well at one or the other. Nadal (twice), Federer, Borg (thrice), Laver, Edberg played both finals back to back in '89 winning one, Agassi (1999 won Roland Garros and was runner up at Wimbledon), Lendl, Graf four times won them back to back, and more than once won one and played the finals at the other, Serena, Evert, Navratilova, Sanchez-Vicario, Seles, Hingis, Margaret Court, and the list goes on. This is, IMHO, a talking point, and nothing more. A week of extra practice isn't going to make that much of a difference--the top players will still perform like the top players. Agassi, the 1992 champ said more than once said he avoided extra practice on the grass because it screwed up his swing. It makes the game great to have such a challenge. And the fact that so many of the greats have done it means that it's not such a problem.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 7):
I felt this way last year as well, but geez, I'm not sure there's a more boring commentator than Boris Becker.

I get the feeling when I hear Boris Becker speak that he is translating German to English in his head word-for-word, and a lot of his personality gets lost in the process.

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 7):
Too bad, cause I used to love watching him play when I was young.

I was more of an Edberg fan myself. Nobody has ever volleyed better.

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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:33 pm

Quoting luckyone (Reply 9):
I get the feeling when I hear Boris Becker speak that he is translating German to English in his head word-for-word, and a lot of his personality gets lost in the process.

His personality, and anything actually useful or interesting to hear.  
Quoting luckyone (Reply 9):
I was more of an Edberg fan myself. Nobody has ever volleyed better.

I miss volleyers. Was always a big Pete Sampras fan growing up. Was quite happy to see Darcis doing some volleying against Nadal.

I watched the replay of most of Federer's match last night too. He looked like classic Federer again (of course, he didn't have much of a challenge, but anyway...).
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 2:38 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
The fortnight starts off with a stunner. Darcis of Belgium knocks out Nadal in straight sets, 7-6, 7-6, 6-4.

I have to wonder about the health of Nadal considering he was out for a good portion of last year. Even though he won the French which was expected because he is the undisputed kind of clay he did have to fight it out against Djokovic in the semis to a 9-7 fifth set win. Obviously with this result he hasn't recovered from the French open.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:37 am

Quoting StarAC17 (Reply 11):
Obviously with this result he hasn't recovered from the French open.

He wouldn't say anything about it in the post-match interview, but his knee looked less-than-100% as the match went on. He grabbed it a couple times, and wasn't hitting many topspin backhands (or was running around them to hit a forehand....more than usual).

Nevertheless, Darcis played a hell of a match to beat him.
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:39 pm

Sharapova goes down in the second round! Larcher de Brito wins in two sets.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:15 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 13):
Sharapova goes down in the second round! Larcher de Brito wins in two sets.

And I thought the Sharapova-Azarenka matches were the peak of loud. This one must've been ear-splitting.
 
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:35 pm

A total of 7 players have withdrawn from competition today, including Nadal-beater Steve Darcis.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/tennis...-2013-injuries-mount-seven-1999585
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 5:55 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 15):
including Nadal-beater Steve Darcis.

That's a shame. Was looking forward to seeing what he would do.

Man, incredible injury retirement list: Isner, Tsonga, Azarenka, Darcis, Cilic....
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 6:30 pm

Jeez, if Federer goes down today, that would make it 7 voluntary withdrawals plus Sharapova and Federer beaten. He's down 2 sets to 1 against Stakhovsky of Ukraine, and looked like he was starting to falter at 5-5 in the third.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:17 pm

Federer out in the second round!
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:20 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 17):
Jeez, if Federer goes down today, that would make it 7 voluntary withdrawals plus Sharapova and Federer beaten. He's down 2 sets to 1 against Stakhovsky of Ukraine, and looked like he was starting to falter at 5-5 in the third.

Bugger he's gone. Unfortunately for Fed it's really starting to look like age has caught up with him.
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:25 pm

Weirdest day of tennis in a Grand Slam ever?

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Wed Jun 26, 2013 7:29 pm

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 20):
Weirdest day of tennis in a Grand Slam ever?

Overall damage-wise yup, but we still haven't seen another day like Chang v. Lendl at Paris.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 8:37 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 21):

Very true.

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Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:07 pm

ESPN has completed a good hour of commentators with that deer-in-the-headlights look. But not once did the attention turn to which player is positioned best to win the tournament after today's carnage, it was more like a wake.

This very well may be Murray's year as mentioned earlier, finally a Brit winning Wimbledon again.

I didn't realize how much was riding on this year for Federer record-wise. He's tied with Sampras for most victories at seven, and with Borg for the most consecutive victories at five. He could have been title-holder of both of these alone for a significant number of years if he'd won this year.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:23 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 23):
He's tied with Sampras for most victories at seven, and with Borg for the most consecutive victories at five. He could have been title-holder of both of these alone for a significant number of years if he'd won this year.

The Fed lost his streak at five (2003-2007) when he lost to Rafa in the '08 final.
 
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:31 pm

Quoting luckyone (Reply 24):
The Fed lost his streak at five (2003-2007) when he lost to Rafa in the '08 final.

You're right, I didn't even think about that that didn't make sense. I must have mushed it all together in my mind while listening to and reading all of the stats.
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Wed Jun 26, 2013 11:06 pm

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 18):
Federer out in the second round!

Now coupled with Nadal's loss, one of the following players will make it to the semi-finals: Łukasz Kubot, Benoît Paire, Adrian Mannarino, Dustin Brown, Nicolás Almagro, Jerzy Janowicz, Jürgen Melzer, or Serhiy Stakhovsky. From that group, only Melzer has been to a grand slam semi-final before (2010 French Open).
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Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:01 pm

Murray easily takes out Robredo in straight sets in the third round. If he keeps playing this well, I think it's certain we'll see Murray in the final this year.
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Sat Jun 29, 2013 9:27 pm

Del Potro is flying low under the radar, but he has yet to lose a set as of today. He could make some surprises if he hasn't hurt his knee.

Serena looked EDGY today playing Date-Krumm, a player who has next to nothing to hurt her with. Serena's next match against Sabine Lisicki will be interesting to watch.

Sloane Stephens continues to step up when it matters. I'm hoping she'll at least make another semi, where if the draw holds she'll meet 2011 champ Kvitova. But anything can happen with Kvitova.
 
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Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:31 pm

Serena Williams just went down to Sabine Lisicki in three. Serena was 3-love in the third, but she was outserved the entire match, and outplayed in the big moments--we hardly ever see that happen. When you follow players enough you see their ticks, and Serena turns on the drama when she's edgy. Historically she doesn't settle down in close matches, and it showed at the end of the third today. Her feet weren't underneath her, she was flailing and snatching at balls. I think it also shows what happens to Serena when her serve is equaled or bettered: her ground game isn't nearly as solid and her forehand gets shaky because she's not able to rely just on that amazing serve.

This makes Saturday's final automatically much more enjoyable as without a Williams to contest it the outcome is much less certain. With Serena in a final you can almost guarantee she will win.

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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:52 pm

Quoting luckyone (Reply 29):
outplayed in the big moments

After the slaughter last week, Chrissie Evert said that we're just not seeing the lower-ranked players choking at the end when they still have a shot at winning, as we have in the past. I think that's true, and we're going to see more exciting tennis coming up. The whole tournament is up for grabs.   
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:27 pm

I'm happy to see her fat arse dumped out of the tournament.

Quoting luckyone (Reply 29):
but she was outserved the entire match

Lisicki has the fasted serve in woman's tennis, so no wonder she out-served Serena.

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Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:49 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 31):
Now if my dreams come true the evil serb will also get dumped on his arse.

His face reminds me of a pelican when he's looking down.

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 31):
Lisicki has the fasted serve in woman's tennis, so no wonder she out-served Serena.

Actually she has "only" the fifth. Venus still holds the record for fastest.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:57 am

Quoting luckyone (Reply 32):
Actually she has "only" the fifth. Venus still holds the record for fastest.

Here is the list of fastest serves Lisicki holds the record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastest_recorded_tennis_serves
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:07 pm

Quoting KiwiRob (Reply 33):
Here is the list of fastest serves Lisicki holds the record.

Fair enough. When I checked that same list her name was fifth on the list.
 
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Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:03 pm

One of the following will be the new ladies champion at Wimbledon 2013:

Lisicki
Radwanska
Bartoli
Flipkens

I may be leaning towards Flipkens after seeing her play today.

And now Chrissie Evert has backed Flipkens in the post-game wrap-up on ESPN2.

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Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:24 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 35):
And now Chrissie Evert has backed Flipkens in the post-game wrap-up on ESPN2.

Without intending to be Flippant, I wouldn't put much stock in much of anything Chris Evert says that doesn't pertain to ball striking and point construction. The woman knows the tactics of the game beautifully (aside from a confounding statement about how Sam Stosur's best shot was her backhand), but she has rarely ever predicted winners of matches, much less tournaments (think back to how many years she predicted a Hingis win at Roland Garros). In addition, she seemingly has difficulty filling dead air (I was just discussing this with a friend of mine this morning actually, he brought it up and I must say I agree) without sounding like she's trying too hard to be smart.

I'm hoping Lisicki continues her beautiful form and takes the tournament. Anybody else I don't think of (admittedly purely opinion) as having the mettle of a Grand Slam Champion. I thought Kvitova had a chance, but she sprayed balls left right and sideways, and proved that it's difficult to swing a racquet with your hand around your neck. Radwanska is a toss up. She's the type of player that club players should be, but she doesn't have that something that makes you go "Wow! she's really good." She's steady and she plays smart, but she's not likely to win majors because quite frankly I hit the ball harder than she does. The fact that Li Na (today's Hana Mandlikova) let her get away with serves that were barely topping 60mph is pathetic. Now, having said that, she's the only one of the four to have played for a major title, and she's by far the steadiest of the lot. She could indeed walk away with the Venus Rosewater dish if she plays a nervy big hitter, though I doubt many would call it an inspiring performance.

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Wed Jul 03, 2013 2:46 pm

Murray vs. Verdasco starting on Centre Court momentarily. I love the way that The Independent framed the story this morning:

Wimbledon 2013: Andy Murray wary of quarter-final banana skin against Fernando Verdasco

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After a Wimbledon with more twists and turns than a fairground ride, Andy Murray will be determined not to become the latest big name to fall from the roller coaster here this afternoon. The 26-year-old Scot is just one win away from equalling Fred Perry's British record of 13 appearances in Grand Slam semi-finals and will give Fernando Verdasco, his opponent on Centre Court, the greatest respect, despite the Spaniard's lowly position at No 54 in the world rankings.
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Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:09 pm

Thrilling 28-ball rally won by Murray right when he needed it, at down the first set and 5-3 in the second set with a break against Verdasco needed to stay in the set. But then he loses it, now down two sets to love. Argh!

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Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:41 pm

What an incredible comeback by Murray! I really hope he wins this thing!!

Bartoli in all her quirkiness won this morning against Flipkens and dropped three games. She'll face Lisicki, whom I hope takes the title on Saturday. She played a very typical Lisicki match, streaky! In the third set leading 3-0, Aga looked all-of-a-sudden rather weary, and she started trying to hit with, and out hit Lisicki, which was really dumb. Lisicki fed off the power and found a groove and eventually took the match.
 
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RE: Wimbledon 2013

Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:16 pm

Jeepers, 5 hours for the Djokovic/del Potro snoozefest. I really wanted del Potro to win, oh well.

If Murray/Janowicz takes 5 hours as well, I may run out of tennis snacks!

Bloomberg reports if Murray claims the Wimbledon title, it could be a $75 million payoff:

Murray Seen Netting $75 Million by Ending U.K.’s Wimbledon Wait
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Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:18 pm

After all the hullabaloo, upsets, and talk of weakness in tennis, the Gentleman's final will be contested by the No.1 and 2 seeds. Djokovic looked edgy and a bit erratic against Del Potro today in his semi. He misfired on the backhand quite a bit early in the match and blew a couple match points in the fourth. This is why he lost the semis at Roland Garros, and if he had been playing a speedier opponent he probably would've lost today too. DelPo wasted quite a few opportunities to come into the net and put away balls, but he chose not to and it allowed Djokovic to recover, and he ended up winning a lot of points he had no business even hanging around in. Murray has a much better return of serve than DelPo, and he's not afraid to come into the net. And the crowd will be firmly and unabashedly behind Murray, which has rattled Djokovic in the past. If both men are playing well, I think Murray has the edge on the return and at the net.
 
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Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:23 pm

6am really is too early for tennis! I thought the Brits were more civilized than this.  
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Sat Jul 06, 2013 3:03 pm

I don't usually follow tennis, let alone women's tennis, but congratulations to Marion Bartoli. It's not every year we have a French winning a grand slam title.
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Sun Jul 07, 2013 12:10 pm

::rub eyes:: Okay, who else is up and awake to watch Andy Murray break Britain's 77-year men's championship drought?
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Sun Jul 07, 2013 1:42 pm

Easy to watch in Japan - GMT + 8   Although I have a feeling this one won't be over till well after 1 am for me if they go 5 sets.
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Sun Jul 07, 2013 2:17 pm

At the rate they're going, it could be 1am for you after a 3-set Murray win!  
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Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:22 pm

Criminy sakes alive! Murray has come from behind 1-4 to serve for the second set at 6-5!

And he wins! Murray up 2 sets, one set left to go.

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Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:36 pm

Absolute scorcher of a final day at Wimbledon. And Murray takes the first game of the third set, it's almost inevitable by now, barring some bizarre collapse.
 
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Sun Jul 07, 2013 3:37 pm

Quoting CPH-r (Reply 48):
And Murray takes the first game of the third set, it's almost inevitable by now, barring some bizarre collapse.

Yes, I'd think so. A tweet republished on the Guardian's live coverage blog of the game says that the last time someone won a Wimbledon men's Final from 2 sets to love down was Henri Cochet in 1927.
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