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TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Mon Jul 08, 2013 9:54 pm

Rick Perry, Texas Governor, Will Not Seek Reelection In 2014

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Texas Governor Rick Perry (R) announced Monday that he will not seek reelection in 2014.

"The time has come to pass on the mantle of leadership," Perry said of his decision.



First elected as the Lone Star State's lieutenant governor in 1998, Perry became governor in 2000 after then-governor George W. Bush resigned to become U.S. president. He was reelected in 2002, 2006 and 2010. He unsuccessfully ran for the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, leaving the race ahead of the South Carolina primary.


Of course he's not saying anything about 2016. Yet.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:09 pm

I believe he will run in '16. Unlike '12 where he jumped in prepared he is going to spend a lot of time studying and visiting foreign countries. I'd also look for him to work hard for GOP candidates around the country, building up IOUs.
 
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:12 pm

Ah Rick Perry, despite my disagreements with him, he always makes me smile when I see him. He completely embodies what I think a stereotypical Texan/cowboy looks like  
Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):
Of course he's not saying anything about 2016. Yet.

Hopefully he'll quietly fade away. A lot of the country had a laugh at him in 2012 but I believe most Texans like him. Leave peacefully, volunteer/raise money for a good cause, and avoid losing in 2016. I don't see him doing any better than he did in 2012
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:20 pm

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 1):
Unlike '12 where he jumped in prepared he is going to spend a lot of time studying and visiting foreign countries.

I don't think Perry can change his stripes; if he hasn't learned anything by now, he's not going to learn much by the next election. That said, hopefully he and Bachmann run just for the comedic value.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Mon Jul 08, 2013 11:37 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
Hopefully he'll quietly fade away.

I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:
1. He'll continue to boast about his record as governor without having to continue to carry the burden of being the governor.
2. He appeals to Tea Party folks which are becoming the mainstream of the GOP.
3. Um...let's see...um...I can't remember...oops.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:06 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:

I'm not quite sure what you meant to say with that, but:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
2. He appeals to Tea Party folks which are becoming the mainstream of the GOP.

I disagree. The Tea Party started as something meaningful and could have been great. But it was Shanghaid by the likes of the unscrupulous and woefully ill-informed Michelle Bachmann and shot out into orbit to where it now represents more of an extreme faction of the Republican Party, its name tarnished to middle of the road people such as myself. They will surely put some candidates into office, but they lost a lot of the ground in 2012 that they won in 2010 and are going to ultimately prove divisive to a Republican Party that wants to win elections. As such they will either be shut down (see Michelle Bachmann's announcement not to seek reelection), or they will have to form their own party, a la the Green Party branching off from the Democratic Party (parties).

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
I don't think Perry can change his stripes; if he hasn't learned anything by now, he's not going to learn much by the next election.

This. His campaign was a disaster. His stance on same-sex marriage could be a liability in a post-DOMA reality, but he's been smart enough about it to date and has his toe slightly bent on the line, not taking the more vocal approach of his party mates such as Mike Huckabee. He's also shown a willingness to flip-flop and wobble with the best of them on issues pertaining to religion, evolution, and the role of government. So who knows what his next move could be.

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Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:36 am

I heard that the Highway Safety Commission is looking for more crash test dummies. Perhaps that could be his new career.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:05 am

Quoting luckyone (Reply 5):
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 4):
I don't think so. There are three signs that point out that he'll not face:

I'm not quite sure what you meant to say with that, but:

Fade...typo.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:10 am

Quoting JoePatroni707 (Reply 6):
I heard that the Highway Safety Commission is looking for more crash test dummies. Perhaps that could be his new career

No, actually they are going to use death row prisoners to do 2 things at once. Not only do they have living beings to get accurate information from but they can clean out death row a lot easier than the hassles with drugs they use to execute. (HUMOR ! - NOT A REAL IDEA)
Problem is now the Republicans in TX are likely to put up a even bigger joker than Perry, more radical conservative, TEA Party type. I feel sorry for anyone not rich in Texas.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:32 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
Ah Rick Perry, despite my disagreements with him, he always makes me smile when I see him. He completely embodies what I think a stereotypical Texan/cowboy looks like

I could not agree more, he belongs on the range with cattle, not espousing anything political. He was funny, but unfortunately he made himself look dumb while being funny. I remember a guy nicknamed dubya that was the same, he was funny and seemingly sincere, but we all saw what that got us. Please Rick, ride off into the sunset with your millions, just like the other guy and all the other politicians do. We ought to be able to sue politicians for malfeasance while in office. They screw us over, collect millions, and we are left holding the bag. They do harm, quite the opposite of the saying" First, do no harm"
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:53 am

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 8):
Problem is now the Republicans in TX are likely to put up a even bigger joker than Perry, more radical conservative, TEA Party type. I feel sorry for anyone not rich in Texas.

I'm not so sure--demographics in TX are quickly shifting away from the Republicans. They can be anti-minority now, and maybe one more election, but the one after that it'll mean they have to be anti-white . TX is really a microcosm of the US, and how the R party insists on doubling down on ideals put them on the fast track to irrelevance.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:56 am

Quoting luckyone (Reply 5):
The Tea Party started as something meaningful and could have been great.

The Tea Party was started because right wing conservatives were too liberal.

Actually, all I ever saw of them was a group of folks wrapped in the flag demanding huge tax cuts - with no care to the reifications.

I also saw that the traditional, responsible Republicans became very afraid of the TP'ers. So all that they represent these days is the politics of fear - a great way to run a political party, or country.

Perry, as odd as it sounds, offers an option that could move to the middle - if the TP doesn't cut him down.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:02 am

http://www.maps.com/ref_map.aspx?pid=11388


This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:41 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):
This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.

These were other times, unfortunately. Back then almost the entire South was aligned with Democrats. After Johnson, the South broke ranks and slowly became the GOP stronghold it is now. Unfortunately, the problem with said move is that the people don't vote for the best candidate, they vote along party lines, even if the other candidate is far better.

With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:01 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 13):
With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards? Obviously there are some big issues that keep them voting Democrat, but who knows what we'll see with the political landscape changing.

Naturally, I believe the parties will morph to stay near 50-50%. I do not recall a time in history when a party kept winning decade after decade. Maybe there will be a new party, but I doubt the Democrats will win 2016, 2020, and beyond. Something will give. No doubt the changing demographics of the US will have a big effect
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:43 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards?

I can speak based on experience with voters back home. With some issues, they're conservative, so if you continue to appeal to their religious beliefs you have a good chunk of them in your side. However, with immigration being an issue lately that can affect them (because just like people stereotype Muslims as terrorists, Hispanics can be thought of as illegal immigrants), the GOP better do a good job in trying to keep them on their side. When it comes to race, I like to think that Hispanics will choose race of religion any day.

And I only projected Texas as losing GOP influence due to precisely this scenario: the immigration issue. Not only that, but let's face it: many Americans like Hillary Clinton and again if she were the nominee for the Democrats, I think Texas is no longer a safe Republican state.

Now, to steer this back on topic: I wonder if, with Perry stepping down, Democrats will have a chance to take the Governor's seat, or at least increase their delegation in both the state level and federal level.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:00 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 15):
Now, to steer this back on topic: I wonder if, with Perry stepping down, Democrats will have a chance to take the Governor's seat, or at least increase their delegation in both the state level and federal level.

I read your comment with interest, but I don't think the Democrats are nearly at the level to take TX gov. The current trends suggest that the Democrats may take TX down the line... note the words "suggest," "may," and "down the line." No, I think it'll be a Republican, but what kind of Republican? That is the question to ask
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:04 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Thread starter):

He was an easy re-election for Texas in 2014. He won't consider POTUS again. I guess he wants to get paid. Maybe lead A&M?

Good riddance?
 
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:05 am

Finally!!! This mad man needs to leave Texas politics!!! Thank all religious/spiritual deities that is will not run for Governor again!!!

I pray to all religious/spiritual deities that this man does not become President of the United States!

I say all of this as a Texas resident!
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:35 am

He's already been the longest serving governor of Texas.
Rick Perry can be a very entertaining speaker but it's best that he doesn't run in 2016.

I'll never forget his ridiculous commercial from 2012.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1reOJV27w
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:56 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cg1reOJV27w

The "real gay man's lisp remix" version? Why, didn't youtube have the ebonics version?
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:26 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 20):
The "real gay man's lisp remix" version? Why, didn't youtube have the ebonics version?

I haven't seen. Post a link if you can find it. I'm sure it's hilarious.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:35 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
I haven't seen. Post a link if you can find it. I'm sure it's hilarious.

Naw, that's okay, I don't need to make fun of other's race or sexuality to get my kicks.
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:58 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 22):
Naw, that's okay, I don't need to make fun of other's race or sexuality to get my kicks.

Me neither. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:05 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 23):
Me neither. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.

LOL, you don't even realize what you posted, do you?
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:25 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 24):
LOL, you don't even realize what you posted, do you?

Yes I do. Anyhow, post the link anyway since you brought it up.
Does it exist or are you just making $h!t up?
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:47 am

Quoting Superfly (Reply 25):
Does it exist or are you just making $h!t up?

It was a question. In a serious conversation you posted a link, intentionally it seems now, that wasn't a real campaign video, but one altered by a third party to introduce a lisp. Then you claim that you didn't post it to make fun of anyone. What other reason would there be for you to post it?

I asked why you didn't post an ebonics version, since the most successful humor which takes advantage of stereotypes is done in a self-depricating manner. Otherwise it just comes across as bigoted, especially on the internet.
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:26 am

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
intentionally it seems now, that wasn't a real campaign video, but one altered by a third party to introduce a lisp.

It was to mock Rick Perry.

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 26):
I asked why you didn't post an ebonics version,

Which does not exist apparently.


Not being bigoted against anyone. Just taking a few cheap-shots are Rick Perry.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:14 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 10):
They can be anti-minority now, and maybe one more election, but the one after that it'll mean they have to be anti-white .

Amusing irony: the policies of the contemporary Democratic Party have been key in impeding greater progress for traditionally -- mistreated groups, including (in particular) racial minorities.

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 18):
Finally!!! This mad man needs to leave Texas politics!!! Thank all religious/spiritual deities that is will not run for Governor again!!!

Goody! Peachy-keen!
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"Mad man"? Really?

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
He's already been the longest serving governor of Texas.

It is, indeed, high time for Gov. Perry to move on down the road, wherever that may take him, and allow the governorship of Texas (figurehead, though it may be) to be taken on by someone else.
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 6:19 pm

Greg Abbott for Governor!
 
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:30 pm

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 9):
We ought to be able to sue politicians for malfeasance while in office.

  Can you name a single politician in history who had 100% support? If it were possible to sue politicians, every single politician would face a lawsuit upon leaving office.

Quoting Ken777 (Reply 11):
The Tea Party was started because right wing conservatives were too liberal.

No, it was started because the Republican Party is far gone from a real conservative platform. The Tea Party recognized that the GOP was wasting everybody's time and money with their nonsense social agendas, so they formed to try and inject the fiscal conservatism that they so obviously have forgotten about.

Quoting fxramper (Reply 17):
I guess he wants to get paid.

He'll do a speaking tour or two and probably write a book.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 19):
I'll never forget his ridiculous commercial from 2012

If you look closely in the background, you can see his chances of becoming President slowly floating away...

Quoting slider (Reply 29):
Greg Abbott for Governor!

I looked up this Greg Abbott. He seems like another GOP talking head that is more concerned with promoting social beliefs rather than actually fixing problems that a government should be fixing. I was able to gather that from his campaign site alone.

Not my problem though. Texas will get whatever they vote for.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 8:56 pm

Thank goodness he will not run for gov again.

The biggest thing I have against George Bush is that he left us with Rick Perry in the Governor's Mansion.

(Oh how I wish he had not missed that interview with Southwest. He would now be in a cockpit and doing something he really knows how to do well.)

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 14):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't many Hispanics pretty conservative in many regards? Obviously there are some big issues that keep them voting Democrat, but who knows what we'll see with the political landscape changing.

If the Republican Party can get over calling every person with a dark skin or Hispanic surname an illegal, and support immigration reform that doesn't want to send GrandMa back to Honduras as a criminal - the party could be unstoppable, both in state and national elections. Hispanics in general are much more aligned with the Republican Party family values platform than any Democratic Party platform.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30):
Texas will get whatever they vote for.

We will get whom ever the Republican Party financial backers want - which seems to be Abbott.

Abbott is a bit smarter about his remarks than Perry, but does support even more fringe causes than Perry. He's spent tens of millions of state dollars on fights with the federal government - knowing he would lose - only to support his right-wing extreme credentials.

Abbott being in a wheelchair for about 30 years generates sympathy, and respect for him not letting that stop him from making a solid career.

He is also probably a lot smart than Perry in pure intellectual terms. He also appears to be a smarter politician.

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I don't expect a flop over to the Democratic Party in Texas for another decade.

When I arrived here from Japan in 1986, the state government and many county governments were solidly Democratic Party folks - but more Dixiecrats that true Democrats.

Not quite as strongly Democrat as they were in my youth in Arkansas - but strong.

The last of the Dixiecrats - 90 year old Ralph Hall - is still in the US Congress. From 1980 to 2002 he was elected as a Democrat. In 2004 and since he has been elected as a Republican. He has been in the US Congress continually for 33 years !!!!

The move of state level politicians to the Republican Party started to about 1990.

One of the interesting things is that the 'great job growth' Perry talks about as his accomplishment hasn't really helped most Texans. But it has brought a lot of liberal educated workers from other states like California, New York, Massachuetts into Texas.

Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.
 
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:00 pm

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 12):


This how it was in 1960 for Texas. JFK and LBJ. This is proof that the people of Texas were not fools back then, as they seem to be now.

interesting how the west coast was R back then. Now its a solid D
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:10 pm

Quoting CaliAtenza (Reply 32):
interesting how the west coast was R back then. Now its a solid D

It didn't hurt that the Republican candidate in that election (Nixon) was from California.
 
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Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:51 pm

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
But it has brought a lot of liberal educated workers from other states like California, New York, Massachuetts into Texas.

   Plus the Latino influx, means curtains for the Republicans in their current format. And then TX quickly turns into CA 
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.

I think all of the big cities are pretty solidly blue. Houston even has a lesbian mayor--the first ever for a major US city, which most non Texans would never believe for a million years, but then again most assume all Texans are like Perry.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:05 pm

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):
I think all of the big cities are pretty solidly blue.

The city cores are Democratic.

But Dallas is a metroplex of 6.4 million, and the city of Dallas is only 1.2 million of those.

The shift is occuring in the suburbs which 10-15 years ago were solidly Republican. It is slow, but it is occuring.
 
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:50 am

Quoting slider (Reply 29):
Greg Abbott for Governor!

Abbott will be the GOP nominee. And he will likely--and unfortunately--win. In reality, who can the Democrats run that stands a chance? Julian Castro? That'd be great, but I see him more as a candidate for Senate. Wendy Davis? She brought a lot of life to the party, but I don't know that she's ready to step up to a bigger stage. Lupe Valdez? That would be a hoot! I'd love it! But it ain't happening. And I cannot think of a single other Democratic candidate who has enough name recognition or fundraising ability to take the state.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 35):
The city cores are Democratic.

But Dallas is a metroplex of 6.4 million, and the city of Dallas is only 1.2 million of those.

The shift is occuring in the suburbs which 10-15 years ago were solidly Republican. It is slow, but it is occuring.

True. Dallas County is heavily Democratic. The Democratic Socialist Republic of Austin (Travis County) speaks for itself   San Antonio (Bexar) leans Democratic. Houston (Harris) is basically a toss up. Tarrant, Collin, Denton, Galveston, Fort Bend, Bell, etc are all conservative--with Collin, Denton, and Galveston each voting at least 62.8% for Romney in 2012. It will be a long haul for Dems in the suburbs and exurbs.

In any case, I'm glad Perry will finally exit the scene.

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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:40 am

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 13):


With the rise in Hispanic votes in Texas, you can bet that by 2020 Texas will no longer be a safe Republican state and we may see the Democrats' influence rise at least on the federal level. And if Hillary Clinton is the nominee for the Democrats in 2016, I'm willing to bet that Texas will be, at the very best, leans GOP.
Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):


Totally wrong.

Austin the state capitol and San Antonio are increasingly mainstream to liberal left Democratic Party towns. It is spreading to Houston and Dallas. That process of bringing in jobs makes the Republican Party weaker.

Austin is the liberal bastion of Texas. San Antonio remains VERY conservative outside of the center of the city.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 34):

Plus the Latino influx, means curtains for the Republicans in their current format. And then TX quickly turns into CA

Also incorrect. The thing about Texas is that many hispanic voters are 3-5th generation and they vote conservative.

I for one enjoy living in this state, and I want it to stay the same. I don't give two hoots about social issues like abortion or gay marriage. I DO like my taxes low and little government interference. Why is it the democrats think everyone needs to be like them?

I lived in Cook County for 6 months and will NEVER move back. States like California, Illinois, etc. have put their budgets into shambles with all the crap they pass.

No I'm not rich, but I like the state regulations here, and Texas is just fine as it is.

Finally, there are LEGIONS of conservative non-voters who don't vote simply because the state is safe with Perry in office.

The republican party does poorly with hispanic voters simply because they do not engage them. In the past this was ok, because they didn't need to. However, if they make the effort, they can perform much better in elections.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:19 am

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
If the Republican Party can get over calling every person with a dark skin or Hispanic surname an illegal

Really? Can you please show us when this was done?

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
When I arrived here from Japan in 1986, the state government and many county governments were solidly Democratic Party folks - but more Dixiecrats that true Democrats.

The Dixiecrats were the true Democrats from the beginning.

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 31):
He has been in the US Congress continually for 33 years !!!!

That's nothing. Congressman John Dingell has been in Congress for 57 years.

Quoting texan (Reply 36):
In reality, who can the Democrats run that stands a chance?

Sheila Jackson Lee....
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Quoting Superfly (Reply 38):

Sheila Jackson Lee....

Doesn't stand a chance. The state will go Republican again barring something outrageous.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:22 am

Why do so many A-netters believe Texas and the states in general would better off with democrat rule??? There seems to be a llove fest for dems and a wish that republicans should be more like democrats..it we seem to have a colossal failure in the white house now so why the love?? free stuff? kindness to terrorists? hatred of Christians? haterd of guns and gun owners? Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:36 am

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):

Nicely said
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:54 am

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Tolerance must be the new buzzword for the GOP. You're not the first to frame opposing viewpoints not as a difference of opinion, but simply painting everyone else as intolerant. Creative use of the English language, I'll give you that much. Are you going to advocate tossing all of the Democratic senators into prison for allowing Obama to fix the last election, too?   
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:03 pm

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
The thing about Texas is that many hispanic voters are 3-5th generation and they vote conservative.
Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
The republican party does poorly with hispanic voters simply because they do not engage them. In the past this was ok, because they didn't need to. However, if they make the effort, they can perform much better in elections.

That's the narrative the Republicans have chosen to tell themselves. "The Latinos just didn't know we were here!" I think reality is showing them otherwise--it's far more complex.

Quoting ual777 (Reply 37):
I for one enjoy living in this state, and I want it to stay the same

I think most Texans want that. In fact if TX just dropped the silly social stuff, the combination with minimal government and relatively free markets would continue to be intoxicating, drawing in people from all over the world. Then those people tend to want different things than the locals before them, and they vote accordingly, changing the recipe that made TX so successful in the first place.

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Someone needs a wambulance.

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
hatred of Christians?

Tough being the object instead of monopolising the source of hatred huh?  
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:13 pm

Quoting charlienorth (Reply 40):
Why do so many A-netters believe Texas and the states in general would better off with democrat rule??? There seems to be a llove fest for dems and a wish that republicans should be more like democrats..it we seem to have a colossal failure in the white house now so why the love?? free stuff? kindness to terrorists? hatred of Christians? haterd of guns and gun owners? Seems I'm not seeing much tolerance from the supposedly open minded left on A-net.

Terrible spelling and grammar aside...you've completely lost the scope of this thread. This isn't a discussion about Republicans at a federal level, but rather Republicans strictly in the state of Texas, which seems to harbour one of the more far-right governors in the party in Rick Perry.

But since you brought it up: Where is this "free stuff", "kindness to terrorists", and "hatred of Christians"? I need to see it before I accept any accusations of the left being less tolerant (a laughable assessment given the Republicans propensity to want to enter themselves into people's bedrooms...).

Quoting Superfly (Reply 38):
Really? Can you please show us when this was done?

A bit of an exaggeration, but I think the Republicans over in Arizona might fit that bill.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:26 pm

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 44):
A bit of an exaggeration, but I think the Republicans over in Arizona might fit that bill.

Hmmm, I read the 10 page law and didn't see anything close to what rfields5421 implied.
Have you?

Quoting ual777 (Reply 39):
Doesn't stand a chance. The state will go Republican again barring something outrageous.

But she is SO well informed and intelligent.....

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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Thu Jul 11, 2013 2:42 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 30):
Can you name a single politician in history who had 100% support? If it were possible to sue politicians, every single politician would face a lawsuit upon leaving office.

It is the principle of accountability, they have none, or have you not noticed? I and millions more have. In R.I. our esteemed leaders just cost us a cool 100 million for an agreement they cooked up with Curt Shilling to start a game company. They issued Moral Obligation Bonds. Do you understand the word moral? It is a travesty to use the word when it comes to Politicians and their schemes. We should be able to sue our legislature for that fiasco, bankrupt them all. Maybe then we would have accountability.   
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Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:01 am

Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 46):
We should be able to sue our legislature for that fiasco, bankrupt them all. Maybe then we would have accountability.

   If we sue all the politicians into bankruptcy, who would replace them?! Nobody in their right mind would run for any office. Even those who are "moral" wouldn't want to run because they know if they screw up at all they'll lose their livelihood.
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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:12 am

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 47):
If we sue all the politicians into bankruptcy, who would replace them?! Nobody in their right mind would run for any office. Even those who are "moral" wouldn't want to run because they know if they screw up at all they'll lose their livelihood.

Gee! Maybe someone honest would run. It is still a paying job after all. You know the principle, earn your pay, not enrich yourself while claiming to have moral reasons for running for office. What do the politicians like to call it? A noble calling, a patriotic thing to do. A public servant. Sure it is.   

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RE: TX Gov. Perry Won't Seek Reelection In 2014

Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:58 am

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 43):
I think most Texans want that. In fact if TX just dropped the silly social stuff, the combination with minimal government and relatively free markets would continue to be intoxicating, drawing in people from all over the world. Then those people tend to want different things than the locals before them, and they vote accordingly, changing the recipe that made TX so successful in the first place.

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