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Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:02 am

So the Asiana crash was huge news over the weekend, A.net is already up to thread no. 6 with all the talk and conjecture. Contrast that to the crash that happened in Alaska where 5x as many people were killed yet the accident got very little press (story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23222244 ). Why do you think there is such a difference? I have a couple of ideas to throw out there:

The 777 is very much an 'everyday' plane that a lot of people fly on and can relate to which brings up the 'that could easily have been me' thoughts.

There were way more people involved in the Asiana crash.

The people who were in the Alaska crash are incurring risks all the time by flying around in small planes in bad weather so there is less sympathy/mutual understanding from the rest of the public.

What are your thoughts?
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:18 am

I do agree with you that OZ's news was bigger and got a lot of media news than the news coming from Alaska. I was surprised that there was no thread here until I posted it on here until 10:30 CST (I am not trying to get credit of posting the news). One of the reason I can think is that the earliest the article was written/posted was an hour ago when I searched it around that time. other reason I can think of is that the high number of people survived in the OZ crash (as you stated) and it happened in one of the biggest city here. Also as you stated that Alaska is known for rough weather. I am going to add one more thing that Alaska is "far" from the contiguous US, it takes time to get news from remote part.
 
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:28 am

Quoting b777erj145 (Reply 1):
other reason I can think of is that the high number of people survived in the OZ crash (as you stated) and it happened in one of the biggest city here.

Was sad to read the news about the crash and deaths in AK, but indeed you can bet the house that a plume of smoke rising hundreds of feet into the air in the middle of SF Bay with thousands if not millions watching it rise is going to get more notice than the unfortunate folks who crashed and died in Soldotna, AK.
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:19 am

A 777 is a tad bigger than an Otter, and crashes far less often.
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:57 am

You have live pictures of the crashed a/c in SFO, a major city with a large media presence available vs. a remote location in Alaska where live pictures are more difficult to get out.

The Asiana crash led the media to ignore far greater losses of live and damage. You have the huge train crash in Quebec with at least 13 people killed and dozens still missing and presumed turned to ashes in the related fire as well as dozens of buildings in a town destroyed. In Chicago over the weekend, 36 people were shot by guns with hardly a national outcry.
 
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:24 am

I think it's the size of the plane, honestly. Even the Colgan Air crash didn't seem to get as much coverage as it should have, IMO. Nor did the Comair flight in LEX. Let's face it, Dash-8s and CRJs are "small planes" and the 777 is a "big plane." In the non-aviation-educated mind of the public and media, misconceptions distort reality, so I don't find this as surprising
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:55 am

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
I think it's the size of the plane, honestly

I think its size and location.

The 777 has a phenomenal safety record after 18 years of service and this is truly a rare event. Likewise all the modern widebodies.

Otter's and Beaver's and other bushplanes unfortunately do crash on a fairly regular basis, between Canada and Alaska there are probably 10-20 major crashes a year at least.

If this same Otter had crashed at SFO and crashed an burned on the runway in view of the UA 744, caught on video and closed the airport, while it wouldnt generate the same attention I think it would be more news worthy than happening in AK, as I really do think people tune it out as "stuff like that happens up there" because it really doesnt at SFO.
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:07 am

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 6):
I think its size and location.

Add the fact that most of us have flown with a 777, only very few with an Otter. Its the "it could have been me" effect.
Add the fact its the first deadly 777 crash, and the fact that here are many 777 fans.
Add the fact its quite big news when a big modern widebody crashes (that luckily has become extremely rare over the past 10 years or so), but not big news if an old, small and supposedly less reliable plane crashes in a remote area hardly anyone of us has any connections to.
Add the fact pictures and videos popped up quickly and on the internet first. I had just come home and switched on my computer when the thread popped up and it had no answer yet. 20 minutes later I switched on the TV and was very astonished that even CNN had nothing by then, it took them 30-40 minutes for the first report after it popped up here!
 
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:26 pm

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 5):
I think it's the size of the plane, honestly. Even the Colgan Air crash didn't seem to get as much coverage as it should have, IMO. Nor did the Comair flight in LEX. Let's face it, Dash-8s and CRJs are "small planes" and the 777 is a "big plane."

FAA draws a similar line, IIRC at 19 seats and below? As was pointed out during the 787 crash by a few of the more knowledgeable posters, like it or not, there's a point at which manufacturers won't go beyond to make a plane safe, and number of souls aboard is a part of that calculation.

Quoting na (Reply 7):
Add the fact pictures and videos popped up quickly and on the internet first. I had just come home and switched on my computer when the thread popped up and it had no answer yet. 20 minutes later I switched on the TV and was very astonished that even CNN had nothing by then, it took them 30-40 minutes for the first report after it popped up here!

Not too surprising to me. Clearly the tv news just isn't the place to go any more for breaking stories. Twitter has surpassed it to the point that even tv newsreaders are just reading tweets aloud. Most of my following of the Boston Marathon bombing consisted of following twitter streams because the tv stuff was hopelessly behind events. As the tweets flew by I'd do what I presume the tv staff was doing which was googling to see if the stuff being said was corroborated by other sources. 2/3rds of the time I'd find out that the pretty much every news source was just quoting tweets I'd already read.
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RE: Press Coverage Of Asiana Crash Vs Alaska Crash

Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:41 pm

Quoting Revelation (Reply 8):
like it or not, there's a point at which manufacturers won't go beyond to make a plane safe, and number of souls aboard is a part of that calculation.

Oh yeah, and that is true about everything in life. If saving life was a #1 priority, the speed limit would be 20 mph throughout the whole country, every passenger in a plane would have an ejection seat, etc etc.


I'll also add that "small plane crashes" happen all the time... they are mentioned once on the evening news or not at all, and most people don't even think about it. A Cessna crash could have killed more than this 777 crash...
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