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Motorsports News In The US

Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:07 pm

Is there a tv show, preferably one I can watch on AT&T Uverse covering motorsports in general?

I like WEC, F1, DTM, V8 SuperCars and GP2 among others, but not enough to watch every race in its entirety (I don't have the time anyway) so I am wondering whether there is a tv show where I can find a summary of some of these events on a regular basis.

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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 12:35 am

There used to be back when the Speed Channel existed, but unfortunately I don't think such a thing does anymore.
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:09 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 1):
There used to be back when the Speed Channel existed, but unfortunately I don't think such a thing does anymore

Missing Speed Channel myself. You have to seek and find what for what you are looking to watch. I have DirectTV and things have shifted considerably.
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I saw the V8 super cars and rally on the guide but not sure which channel.

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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 6:35 am

Quoting N776AU (Reply 1):
There used to be back when the Speed Channel existed, but unfortunately I don't think such a thing does anymore.

I believe you are talking about "Mobil 1 The Grid." I saw it recently on NBC Sports Network when I was channel surfing. I hate to tell you to check local listings but the times change constantly. I think NBC Sports Network uses the program to fill in blank half-hour time slots in their programming.
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:34 pm

Similar question for Australia. At one stage 10 Network had the rights to pretty much all major local and international motorport, and had a good weekly summary. Now things are spread across three networks there's nothing - although I was able to catch MotoGP, NASCAR, GrandAm, WRC and V8Supercars across a range of free to air networks at the weekend.

What happened to SPEED - it seemed like a bit of a dream to Aussie motorsport fans!
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:50 pm

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 4):
What happened to SPEED - it seemed like a bit of a dream to Aussie motorsport fans!

Fox turned it into Fox Sports 1 in an attempt to compete with ESPN and to a lesser extent NBC Sports Network. Things are in a bit of flux right now, as many of their major TV deals don't take affect until 2014 or 2015. Starting in 2015, they're start airing some NASCAR and Nationwide Series events in the first half of those series' season; next year sees them adding FIA Formula E and United SportsCar Racing (the merged American Le Mans Series and the Rolex Sports Car Series). A few of the racing series Speed aired have been retained as well.
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Sun Sep 15, 2013 10:52 pm

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 4):
What happened to SPEED - it seemed like a bit of a dream to Aussie motorsport fans!

Bought by Fox and is now Fox Sports 1, which is now a general sports channel similar to NBC Sports Network which was formerly Versus. FS1 still has plenty of NASCAR stuff and their schedule shows the WEC race from Brazil in the wee hours of the morning. They've just added some UFC, soccer, and other sports in addition but for now a lot of the motorsports seems to remain.

Frankly, despite being a motorsports fan, I am not too disappointed to see Speed go. To me they were always way too NASCAR centric (although that's what sells) and the non-racing programming was always somewhat subpar. With Indy racing on ABC/ESPN, F1 now on NBCSN (and occasionally other NBC networks), the availability of other car related programming (Drive on Youtube for example, and even American Top Gear is better than anything from Speed) I didn't have much use for them, as long as someone will televise the 24 Hours of LeMans still. If I really need to see something I'm sure I can find it online. I think I'll like the extra college sporting events on FS1 better.

Looking at what Fox Sports 1 brings to the table, they still have most of what I like (United Sports Car formerly ALMS/Grand Am and Formula E starting next year) and adding more stuff I'm likely to watch.
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:03 am

Thanks for the info guys.

Although we do get a decent range of motorsport on free to air, it is a matter of chasing it around schedules amongst non-motorsport programming. I'm a circuit racing fan, and even here there is a preponderance of NASCAR (both championships), which is at least motorsport. MotoGP gets a good run on the same network, as does F1 when there is no clash

BTCC is occasionally dropped into the schedule (although has been mostly MIA this season), but DTM doesn't make it any longer. Even with the WRC in Australia over the weekend, the coverage was a 30min package at 10.30pm each night. Our local "premier" series, V8Supercars, is covered by a separate network.
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:41 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
Bought by Fox and is now Fox Sports 1

Fox always owned Speed. They just decided to throw it away, and throw a ton of money away trying to compete with ESPN.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
. With Indy racing on ABC/ESPN

Indycar is mostly on NBCSN, with a few races (unfortunately) on ABC. Hopefully ABC gives it up, their crappy coverage of Indycar does more to hurt the series than lots of other things.

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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:58 am

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 7):
Even with the WRC in Australia over the weekend, the coverage was a 30min package at 10.30pm each night

That is the amount of fficial WRC overage you are going to get. Maybe a 1 hour show after the race covering the whole rally.
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 5:31 am

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 8):
Fox always owned Speed.

That is true, they've been owned by Fox since 2001 which is when they really became NASCARvision.

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 8):
They just decided to throw it away, and throw a ton of money away trying to compete with ESPN.

Competing with ESPN is not the entire deal though.

First of all, pretty much anyone capable of intelligent thought knows that ESPN is a joke. There are a few exceptions: E:60, 30 for 30, and soon Nate Silver but for the most part ESPN is a steaming pile of feces. ESPN-as-journalism is barely even an illusion at this point. (Fox poured salt in that would with their "Tebow Jar")

But both FS1 and NBCSN compete obliquely in that you'll find a lot of coverage of things not usually on ESPN: UFC, former Speed racing and extra soccer on FS 1 while F1 and hockey lives on NBCSN. ESPN barely mentions hockey except for the occasional Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin highlight. Plus they can show extra sporting events (often college) with more channels which equals more money.

So as far as competing with ESPN, I think the answer is "sort of."

Quoting larshjort (Reply 9):
That is the amount of fficial WRC overage you are going to get. Maybe a 1 hour show after the race covering the whole rally.

As entertaining as rallying is, it just is not the most spectator or TV friendly sport. Rallycross solves the practicality problem but is far less entertaining.
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:15 am

Quoting larshjort (Reply 9):
That is the amount of fficial WRC overage you are going to get. Maybe a 1 hour show after the race covering the whole rally.

On a couple of networks, we used to get the 1 hour WRC package maybe two weeks later.The local round, at least before it left WA, used to get more extensive coverage.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10):
As entertaining as rallying is, it just is not the most spectator or TV friendly sport.

Splitter!!!   The highlights packages are actually fine - rallying is prob the most dramatic form of car based motorsport, but the most undersold.
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:32 am

Quoting Kent350787 (Reply 11):
The highlights packages are actually fine - rallying is prob the most dramatic form of car based motorsport, but the most undersold.

It's kind of a hard sell.

First the events take three days, which is a long time to keep people's attention. Secondly the cars run individually which somewhat reduces the suspense. You'll note that both of these aspects are not unlike golf, but for the PGA the first two rounds are usually not broadcast on network TV nor widely watched and golf has more discretised action that's easier for producers to manage. That is, you know who faces an important birdie putt or is teeing off on a difficult hole but it's harder to know if a driver is going to wreck or make a great save.

But that brings up the next problem: some stages are very long and require a lot of broadcast infrastructure to capture the action. Plus rallies aren't usually in the most accessible places either. It's just easier to cover an event at a track than a rally.

It's a shame, but I must concede that there are solid reasons why rallying isn't widely broadcast.
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:07 am

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 12):
It's a shame, but I must concede that there are solid reasons why rallying isn't widely broadcast.

I agree, which is why the hour highlights packages are OK, as they allow in-car and aerial, as well as car by car tracking. I just wish it was broadcast here more regularly - even though Ogier seems to be almost doing a Loeb this year....
 
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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:43 pm

Looks like there is a new program coming to the US. Eurosport to air on Velocity, with a 2 hour motorsports show planned weekly. Supposedly to start Sept. 28th. http://twitter.com/Eurosport/status/379610975374434304

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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:44 pm

Quoting VTBDflyer (Reply 14):
Eurosport to air on Velocity,

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RE: Motorsports News In The US

Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:15 pm

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10):
Competing with ESPN is not the entire deal though.

First of all, pretty much anyone capable of intelligent thought knows that ESPN is a joke. There are a few exceptions: E:60, 30 for 30, and soon Nate Silver but for the most part ESPN is a steaming pile of feces. ESPN-as-journalism is barely even an illusion at this point. (Fox poured salt in that would with their "Tebow Jar")

But both FS1 and NBCSN compete obliquely in that you'll find a lot of coverage of things not usually on ESPN: UFC, former Speed racing and extra soccer on FS 1 while F1 and hockey lives on NBCSN. ESPN barely mentions hockey except for the occasional Sidney Crosby or Alex Ovechkin highlight. Plus they can show extra sporting events (often college) with more channels which equals more money.

So as far as competing with ESPN, I think the answer is "sort of."

Fox Sports scored a bit of a coup when they wrestled the UEFA Champions League away from ESPN. After next year's World Cup, they take over the US English language broadcast rights to the World Cup (men's and women's). They had been splitting the Barclays Premier League with ESPN and NBC Sports snagged it (Whose coverage is excellent, as even if your club's match isn't on NBC Sports Network, it will be available for live streaming or on an overflow channel on your cable system.).

ESPN's hockey coverage consists of the NCAA Men's Hockey tournament. During the regular season, NCAA games are aired on NBC Sports Network as well as CBS Sports Network. The conference tournaments also air on NBCSN and CBSSN. With the Big 10 now having hockey under their conference banner, I'm guessing they'll be airing their games as well as their conference tournament on their in-house network, Big Ten Network.

Quoting VTBDflyer (Reply 14):
Looks like there is a new program coming to the US. Eurosport to air on Velocity, with a 2 hour motorsports show planned weekly. Supposedly to start Sept. 28th. http://twitter.com/Eurosport/status/379610975374434304

Slight problem though, Velocity is an HD-only channel and depending on the cable company, it may only be available on a higher tier package.

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