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Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:06 pm

WOW! Contrary to people thinking President Trump would cancel his presser in fear of CNNs fake news not only did have the presser he knocked it out of the park.

The confrontation with CNN's Jim Acosta was biblical. Trump called CNN fake news. I almost fell off my chair. The rest of the presser was great seeing how his lawyers will handle the transition and debunked the propaganda of Conflict of interest. In fact the best part of the presser is when a reporter said the people want his tax returns released and Trump said no they don't I won. LOL

Not a great morning for CNN but a great morning for the country.

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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:16 pm

The best part of the press conference IMO was when he mentioned all the companies either not moving jobs to or bringing them back from Mexico and had he not won the election that would not at all be the case. I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:17 pm

He has the brains and emotional stability of a 5 year old.

And CNN wasn't hurt by what the Pee-resident elected said. He just showed himself to be a clown.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:34 pm

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The best part of the press conference IMO was when he mentioned all the companies either not moving jobs to or bringing them back from Mexico and had he not won the election that would not at all be the case. I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.


The sad part is, you believe him. P.T. Barnum was right about suckers.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:18 pm

So the companies that are bringing back jobs to the US are lying to their employees? Or do you honestly believe Hillary would have gotten on the phone and bring them back, especially after her boss Obama said this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkiudbI43iQ
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:27 pm

Does anybody care that Trump may have lied during the campaign?

He committed to releasing his taxes but during the conference indicated that now he won't. That he doesn't need to anymore since he won. Not saying he has to, it's not a requirement of the position but it will be a big blatant lie that he told, commitment that he won't be living up too, as he knew his taxes would not be "completed" prior to the election.

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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:36 pm

Tugger wrote:
Does anybody care that Trump may have lied during the campaign?

He committed to releasing his taxes but during the conference indicated that now he won't. That he doesn't need to anymore since he won. Not saying he has to, it's not a requirement of the position but it will be a big blatant lie that he told, commitment that he won't be living up too, as he knew his taxes would not be "completed" prior to the election.

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Blatant lie as in when Harry Reid lied about Romney breaking the law by not paying his taxes? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:46 pm

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Blatant lie as in when Harry Reid lied about Romney breaking the law by not paying his taxes? People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Stones? What are you on about? I am simply asking if you will regard this as a LIE from Trump. Not talking about anyone else.

I guess one could say the same for you about "glasshouses" based on how you hold people accountable.

If Trump does in fact not release his taxes as he committed he would, will you care? Will you call him on it as it means he lied during the campaign.

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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:49 pm

afcjets wrote:
I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.

The US, unfortunately, has to bankroll most pharma research and start-up costs for the entire world.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 7:59 pm

Tugger wrote:
Does anybody care that Trump may have lied during the campaign?

He committed to releasing his taxes but during the conference indicated that now he won't. That he doesn't need to anymore since he won. Not saying he has to, it's not a requirement of the position but it will be a big blatant lie that he told, commitment that he won't be living up too, as he knew his taxes would not be "completed" prior to the election.

Tugg


He already admitted he took full advantage of the tax code to pay as little taxes as possible, as does everyone. He likely paid zero income tax, so just assume that and move on.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:04 pm

I thought he said he would release his taxes if HRC released her State Department emails...
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:16 pm

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so just assume that and move on.

Why?
Why should he not keep his commitment?

And you do what what assuming makes people, right?

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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:17 pm

Airstud wrote:
I thought he said he would release his taxes if HRC released her State Department emails...

He said that later in the campaign as a taunt to Hillary. But he clearly stated he would release his taxes once they "were complete".

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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:38 pm

Tugger wrote:
afcjets wrote:
so just assume that and move on.

Why?

Because it would make you happy, and it is likely true :smile:

Tugger wrote:
Why should he not keep his commitment?


Because the votes have been cast already and more importantly it was not a campaign promise.

Tugger wrote:
And you do what what assuming makes people, right?


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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:14 pm

Trump is right, CNN and many other western mainstream media outlets are about as truthful as the sites they call "fake media", or even worse.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:28 pm

The man who has repeatedly garbled fiction his entire campaign, starting with the birther movement years back, has no credibility to accuse anyone as "fake". My thoughts? One word. Embarrassment.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:54 pm

afcjets wrote:
The best part of the press conference IMO was when he mentioned all the companies either not moving jobs to or bringing them back from Mexico and had he not won the election that would not at all be the case. I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.


He left the part out that the deal for Ford to keep some production here in the US was negotiated a year and a half ago by the UAW and Ford. But why let facts get in the way.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 pm

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Trump is right, CNN and many other western mainstream media outlets are about as truthful as the sites they call "fake media", or even worse.


The next time Trump is right on somethng will be the first time. What he said isn't true, and anyone with a shred of common sense knows it. Just because he and you don't like CNN or any other network doesn't me an they're "fake". But that's where thiis guy has taken people like you, to the point where no news is real to you, unless it comes from a clearly slanted source like Britbart or maybe Pravda.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:55 pm

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Trump is right, CNN and many other western mainstream media outlets are about as truthful as the sites they call "fake media", or even worse.


Care to back that claim up? Though so.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:56 pm

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afcjets wrote:
The best part of the press conference IMO was when he mentioned all the companies either not moving jobs to or bringing them back from Mexico and had he not won the election that would not at all be the case. I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.


He left the part out that the deal for Ford to keep some production here in the US was negotiated a year and a half ago by the UAW and Ford. But why let facts get in the way.


Facts are irrelevant, don't you know that? That's how the Nazi's operated, and that's how Trump and those who have fallen for his garbage want it.
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Re: Trump press conference

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:57 pm

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The man who has repeatedly garbled fiction his entire campaign, starting with the birther movement years back, has no credibility to accuse anyone as "fake". My thoughts? One word. Embarrassment.


I can't help but see the irony in this,
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:09 am

LMP737 wrote:
pvjin wrote:
Trump is right, CNN and many other western mainstream media outlets are about as truthful as the sites they call "fake media", or even worse.


Care to back that claim up? Though so.


Have you been watching any sort of News today? LOL MSNBC has been crucifying CNN for the bonehead maneuver they pulled.
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:19 am

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Have you been watching any sort of News today? LOL MSNBC has been crucifying CNN for the bonehead maneuver they pulled.



FOX News defends rival CNN against Trump's "fake" claims


https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-defen ... 51823.html
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:23 am

NIKV69 wrote:
LMP737 wrote:
pvjin wrote:
Trump is right, CNN and many other western mainstream media outlets are about as truthful as the sites they call "fake media", or even worse.


Care to back that claim up? Though so.


Have you been watching any sort of News today? LOL MSNBC has been crucifying CNN for the bonehead maneuver they pulled.


You've been watching MSNBC? Return your Nazi Party membership card immediately!! :mrgreen:
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727LOVER wrote:
NIKV69 wrote:

Have you been watching any sort of News today? LOL MSNBC has been crucifying CNN for the bonehead maneuver they pulled.



FOX News defends rival CNN against Trump's "fake" claims


https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-defen ... 51823.html


Ahh, Shep. I'll give it till the end of the year or sooner before he high tails it out of there.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:52 am

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Again, facts mean nothing to this guy or his misguided voters.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:11 am

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So the companies that are bringing back jobs to the US are lying to their employees? Or do you honestly believe Hillary would have gotten on the phone and bring them back,


She wouldn't have had to. Ford was going to increase its activities in the US anyway because it's good business sense for what they need to do. Chrysler had already committed to their increase in US jobs well before Trump became president. Same thing for Sprint.

All he did was get Carrier to not ship so many jobs to Mexico. And while that's good for the people who will be able to remain at their employer, to be perfectly honest the manufacturing of air conditioner and refrigerator parts is not where we need to be focusing our investments in job creation.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:16 am

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afcjets wrote:
So the companies that are bringing back jobs to the US are lying to their employees? Or do you honestly believe Hillary would have gotten on the phone and bring them back,


She wouldn't have had to. Ford was going to increase its activities in the US anyway because it's good business sense for what they need to do. Chrysler had already committed to their increase in US jobs well before Trump became president. Same thing for Sprint.

All he did was get Carrier to not ship so many jobs to Mexico. And while that's good for the people who will be able to remain at their employer, to be perfectly honest the manufacturing of air conditioner and refrigerator parts is not where we need to be focusing our investments in job creation.


It can't hurt to increase such goods, but I think where we need to increase our focus is on renewable energy jobs and businesses, for one. Not only things like making and installing solar panels and wind turbines, but R&D as well. We are never going to get back the Steel jobs we once had. Where else would you focus?
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:51 am

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So the companies that are bringing back jobs to the US are lying to their employees? Or do you honestly believe Hillary would have gotten on the phone and bring them back,

With the Carrier deal Trump may have twisted their arm to save a few hundred jobs out of 145 million jobs in the US.
The Carrier news story is little but a strawman in a discussion of employment in America.
If anyone wants some perspective read this:


On Thursday, at a rough estimate, 75,000 Americans were laid off or fired by their employers. Some of those workers will find good new jobs, but many will end up earning less, and some will remain unemployed for months or years. If that sounds terrible to you, and you’re asking what economic catastrophe just happened, the answer is, none. In fact, I’m just assuming that Thursday was a normal day in the job market.

The U.S. economy is, after all, huge, employing 145 million people. It’s also ever-changing: Industries and companies rise and fall, and there are always losers as well as winners. The result is constant “churn,” with many jobs disappearing even as still more new jobs are created. In an average month, there are 1.5 million “involuntary” job separations (as opposed to voluntary quits), or 75,000 per working day. Hence my number. But why am I telling you this? To highlight the difference between real economic policy and the fake policy that has lately been taking up far too much attention in the news media.

Real policy, in a nation as big and rich as America, involves large sums of money and affects broad swaths of the economy. Repealing the Affordable Care Act, which would snatch away hundreds of billions in insurance subsidies to low- and middle-income families and cause around 30 million people to lose coverage, would certainly qualify.

Consider, by contrast, the story that dominated several news cycles a few weeks ago: Donald Trump’s intervention to stop Carrier from moving jobs to Mexico. Some reports say that 800 U.S. jobs were saved; others suggest that the company will simply replace workers with machines. But even accepting the most positive spin, for every worker whose job was saved in that deal, around a hundred others lost their jobs the same day.

In other words, it may have sounded as if Mr. Trump was doing something substantive by intervening with Carrier, but he wasn’t. This was fake policy — a show intended to impress the rubes, not to achieve real results.

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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:25 am

What is this guy talking about, did he not watch Obama's farewell speech last night? The economy and jobs in the US are doing amazing.
 
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:26 am

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It can't hurt to increase such goods, but I think where we need to increase our focus is on renewable energy jobs and businesses, for one. Not only things like making and installing solar panels and wind turbines, but R&D as well.


You mean like Solyndra?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/solyndra ... c3466a4043
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:43 am

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The economy and jobs in the US are doing amazing.


He never said amazing. You're on a hyperbole.
But, if you look at the facts... Unemployment rate is low and businesses are doing rather well.
The real issue is job quality and stability. Not that Trump or, worse, the republicans will do anything about that...

salttee wrote:
With the Carrier deal Trump may have twisted their arm to save a few hundred jobs out of 145 million jobs in the US.


He didn't even twist their arm... All he did is have Pence offer them a tax cut in exchange for keeping a handful of low paying, entry-level jobs.
So, in essence, Indiana is effectively subsidizing low paying jobs, like those commies in Europe! Gasp!
Not that I worry about Indiana, they'll surely recoup the money by cutting funds from education or healthcare...

All Trump wanted was a headline for his propaganda and to fool those who have no grasp of the issue. Smoke and mirrors. Carrier got its tax break and is still moving jobs to Mexico. In the meantime, they've created a precedent for every business who wants to get tax breaks by threatening to move jobs out of the country.

Even if he saved 800 jobs every day of his presidency, he wouldn't make a dent in the unemployment figure.

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FOX News defends rival CNN against Trump's "fake" claims


If that isn't a sign that the sky is falling over, I don't know what is.

NIKV69 wrote:
WOW!


Yes, wow... Watching a 70 year old man shouting and using schoolyard bully rhetoric to silence those who dare criticize him, while offering no coherent rebuttal other than the usual "it's all fake" excuse. Then there's the usual threat of muzzling the press.
And then he goes on giving vague answers and propaganda-style quips about the economy with no real substance in anything he says.
All to the cheers of those who are blinded by their ignorance.

Wow indeed... we're f#*ked.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:02 am

I loved the parts I heard from the press conference. Finally a President that won't take crap from the fake news propaganda machine known as the mainstream media. America is a better place when the globalist press is scrambling.

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If anyone wants some perspective read this:

Krugman doesn't even follow the textbooks he writes (I'm embarrassed that I still have one on my bookshelf). He's a political shill, not a true economist. Even the undergrad economist knows that each deal mentioned keeps or creates far more jobs than just the "800" listed. The tentacles of investment and labor go far beyond. The real job number is exponentially higher.
 
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Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:06 am

Remember what Obama said about Fox and how Obama treated Fox over the past eight years. Compare and contrast that with how the orange menace acts. This is YOUR president, righties. The president of the minority.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:24 am

Your empty ad hominem attack on Krugman was quite predictable; but you should win a prize for this:

MSPNWA wrote:
America is a better place when the globalist press is scrambling.

It is probably the most Naziesque thing I've heard yet out of the Trump camp.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:44 am

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Yes, wow... Watching a 70 year old man shouting and using schoolyard bully rhetoric to silence those who dare criticize him, while offering no coherent rebuttal other than the usual "it's all fake" excuse. Then there's the usual threat of muzzling the press.
And then he goes on giving vague answers and propaganda-style quips about the economy with no real substance in anything he says.
All to the cheers of those who are blinded by their ignorance.

Wow indeed... we're f#*ked.


No real substance? Vague answers?

Like premiums wouldn't rise?

You won't lose your coverage?

You can keep your Doctor?

We have to read a 1200 page bill to get the specifics?

Actually that 70 year old man called out a propaganda outlet that ran with a story totally void of substance and got called out on it. Won't name the sources or who leaked it to them which is probably someone in the Intelligence community that is praying they don't get caught because they will go to jail.

I have to say it was total elation watching an elected official not letting the elitist MSM get away with what they have for the last 10 years.

It's a good direction to be going and we are hardly fuc@ed.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:49 am

Some of you better leave the US once in a while and try to see a bit of the world.

This isnt the 1960s anymore.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:36 am

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Krugman doesn't even follow the textbooks he writes (I'm embarrassed that I still have one on my bookshelf).


from a supporter of a president that can´t remember his breakfast at dinner time that is a pretty strong statement.

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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:01 am

I think it was a nice press conference. A bit Kim Yong style mixed with just a touch of "the Great Dictator" and a hint of conspiracy theorist. Very promising.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:18 am

NIKV69 wrote:
Like premiums wouldn't rise?

You won't lose your coverage?

You can keep your Doctor?


Has he said how exactly he will achieve that? If not, how are these not empty promises and populist rhetoric, like everything else he has said so far?
Trust me, he hasn't read that 1200 page bill either. He doesn't read.

NIKV69 wrote:
Actually that 70 year old man called out a propaganda outlet that ran with a story totally void of substance and got called out on it.


MSPNWA wrote:
Finally a President that won't take crap from the fake news propaganda machine known as the mainstream media.


It's amazing what he's achieved. He's actually got his minions to simply and categorically refute every critical bit of news that comes from the media by dismissing them as 'crooked', 'liars', 'biased', etc.
So basically, everything CNN or any other news outlet say that is critical of him will be immediately disregarded without further question because he said so and, as we all know, if you repeat something loudly and often enough it becomes true...

I don't think there's any chance that you guys would entertain the thought that possibly, just maybe, the media is coming out with so many stories about Trump because he actually is a terrible person and these mountains of suspicions amassing against him might all be based on some degree of truth rather than just the 'crooked' media ganging up on him all of a sudden for an unknown reason?
Given the nature of the accusations, are you even interested in finding out whether there's any truth to them before denouncing the 'liberal propaganda machine'?

It's amazing that the US is actually on the doorstep of a quasi-despotic regime which would happily muzzle the free press if it could and some seem absolutely fine with that, as long as they only hear what they want to hear.

Anybody who's read a history book is able to understand exactly what is happening here. The parallels between the nascent Trump reign and the telltale signs of a sprouting despotic regime are unnerving.
The very fact that the likes of you are so fanatically attached to a leader that you blindly acquiesce everything he says and does and refuse to acknowledge any potential flaw in him is one of those major hints.

I repeat... we're boned.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:18 am

I thought that Mr. Trump would have learned, less than 10 days away from inauguration date, to be "Presidential".
Instead Mr. Trump is still what he always was, a rich, ruthless Prole without any culture.

That would be fine with the rest of the world, if it wasn't for the fact that the US President, whatever his Name is, defines, willingly or not, the fate of the rest of the world. The US could do with someone who is not an intellectual, as long as he has a couple of intellectuals in his team who guide him. But a self loving narcisset who is unable to adapt , who is unable to listen and learn and who is unable to behave, is the wrong man for this Job.

The choice may have been awkward, but the chosen is scary.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 8:43 am

PanHAM wrote:
I thought that Mr. Trump would have learned, less than 10 days away from inauguration date, to be "Presidential".
Instead Mr. Trump is still what he always was, a rich, ruthless Prole without any culture.


I liked how he ended his Pressconference with the admission of criminal intent.

He can´t fire his son´s for doing a bad job with his company, unless it isn´t managed as a blind trust.

If he was a Clinton, Impeachment would start today...

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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:10 am

He actually handled the press conference well I think.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:49 am

AirPacific747 wrote:
He actually handled the press conference well I think.


Gross.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 10:53 am

afcjets wrote:
The best part of the press conference IMO was when he mentioned all the companies either not moving jobs to or bringing them back from Mexico and had he not won the election that would not at all be the case. I also loved how he said big pharma is his next target, how the US who is the largest purchaser of drugs pays the highest price, and how the bidding is not done properly, and how he is going to save BILLIONS on drugs.


Big pharma should be able to make as much money as they need, free from the interference of big government. Remember that Republicans stand for small government, less regulation.

That should also apply to companies being able to move production off shore to save costs. They have to be competitive somehow.
 
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 12:16 pm

cpd wrote:
Big pharma should be able to make as much money as they need, free from the interference of big government. Remember that Republicans stand for small government, less regulation.

That should also apply to companies being able to move production off shore to save costs. They have to be competitive somehow.

This actually reminds me of a discussion I had with PHX787 last year (or the year before) where he was adamant that government should not regulate anything and let the free market dictate prices and such. I told him that such actions could result in monopolies, which mean the free market made other competitors collapse or be acquired. He then spoke about how there's room for certain regulations to prevent that from happening. Then I ended the discussion by saying that he doesn't believe in a truly free market then.

Can't have your cake and eat it too.

If you're for free market, small government, and cutting red tape, you must also be willing to accept the results (for better or worse). But then, being for a free market means that if a too big to fail company (like banks or airlines or manufacturer) goes under, your economy will greatly suffer. And wanting regulations to prevent that means you're not so pro-free market after all.

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Ahh, Shep. I'll give it till the end of the year or sooner before he high tails it out of there.
Expect to see the RINO calls.

MSPNWA wrote:
The real job number is exponentially higher.
I'm hoping to see references to the "real" job number once Trump takes office. I mean, it's clear the BLS is fudging the number and that true unemployment is significantly higher. When unemployment goes up to 6% I want to see you concerned for the "real" number (since it should move in tandem).

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I have to say it was total elation watching an elected official not letting the elitist MSM get away with what they have for the last 10 years.
Remember Fox News and their crusade against Obama and the Democrats? Now the tables have turned and while Fox News may give them a pass, don't expect the other channels to be so lenient.
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:08 pm

einsteinboricua wrote:
Now the tables have turned and while Fox News may give them a pass, don't expect the other channels to be so lenient.


And what other chances do they have? Either they dig up enough facts to destroy Trump, or they can have a long hard look at Russia and Turkey to see what is in store for them.

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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:56 pm

I'm really perplexed over the media's account on Trump as "the gift that keeps on giving" :?
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Re: Trump press conference

Thu Jan 12, 2017 2:26 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
Actually that 70 year old man called out a propaganda outlet that ran with a story totally void of substance and got called out on it.


They did not actually do this.
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