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BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:31 am

Bhartiya Janata Party- which forms the union government in India is nearing 2/3rd majority in Uttar Pradesh- India's most populous state with over 200 million people. Uttarakhand is the hilly state which has Rishikesh - the most preferred spiritual and hiking destination in India and Haridwar- Ayurveda hub for the world.

2/3rd majority in India means the opposition becomes useless and the ruling party can pass all the bills and legislatures on its own.

A party needs to win atleast 1/2 of the total constituencies to form the government.

These results signify the high rate of approval for BJP in India, which is very heart saddening for 1 user here.

Track the results here: http://timesofindia.com/elections/results

This thread may also be used to discuss alleged hate crime by BJP in India.
 
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Re: BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:20 am

anshabhi wrote:
These results signify the high rate of approval for BJP in India, which is very heart saddening for 1 user here.

Oh not at all saddening!

The demise of liberal India and its secular ethos is something to be celebrated! Keep lynching Muslims & Dalits! Keep targetting the LGBT community! Keep on burning Christian's! Because that is what our Hindu culture has taught us! Right?

Godspeed India! :thumbsup: See on the other side with Afghanistan & Sierra Leone for company!
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:27 am

The title of the thread is misleading. They're now up to almost 3/4th majority, with 300+ of 403 seats.

This election result is as satisfying as May 16 2014. 300+ in UP and 50+ in UK. The last time the United Provinces voted this this much in favor of one party was for Nehru in 1951.

What's more, UP RS elections are coming up in summer. BJP will sweep them, and will take over the RS in addition to the LS. NDA already has almost 2/3rds majority in LS and can push for close to that much in RS with arrangements. BJP also gets to pick the next President and Vice President this year. Fantastic set of alignments for them.
 
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Re: BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:01 am

BawliBooch wrote:
anshabhi wrote:
These results signify the high rate of approval for BJP in India, which is very heart saddening for 1 user here.

Oh not at all saddening!

The demise of liberal India and its secular ethos is something to be celebrated! Keep lynching Muslims & Dalits! Keep targetting the LGBT community! Keep on burning Christian's! Because that is what our Hindu culture has taught us! Right?

Godspeed India! :thumbsup: See on the other side with Afghanistan & Sierra Leone for company!


Don't weep!
In U.P. the religion-wise percentage of population is Hindus 79.73, Muslims 19.31, Sikhs 0.32, Jains 0.11, Buddhists 0.10, Christians 0.18 while 0.29% people didn't stated their religion.


As per 2011 census , Dalits constitute 21.1% of Uttar Pradesh population. Mallah community is divided in 27 sub-castes. Other Backward Classes (OBCs) constitute 40% of U.P population. There are 200-odd non-Yadav OBCs in U.P. In Uttar Pradesh, Muslims are divided into 68 castes and sub-castes, 35 of them are OBCs. Forward castes constitute around 22% of Uttar Pradesh population, in which Brahmins are 10% and Thakurs are 8%.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... ar_Pradesh

No party can score such a major win if it lacks the confidence or minorities.
Stop befooling innocent foreigners about India and BJP!
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:06 am

anshabhi wrote:
No party can score such a major win if it lacks the confidence or minorities.
Stop befooling innocent foreigners about India and BJP!

LOL.

State: UP
District: Deoband
Hindu-Muslim distribution: 29%-71%

Election result: http://eciresults.nic.in/ConstituencywiseS245.htm?ac=5
BRIJESH Bharatiya Janata Party 101977
MAJID ALI Bahujan Samaj Party 72654
MAVIA ALI Samajwadi Party 55278

So much for bad bad BJP hating minorities. The Muslims themselves voted for BJP in the home town of their most famous religious school :rotfl:
 
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Re: BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:35 am

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No party can score such a major win if it lacks the confidence or minorities.
Stop befooling innocent foreigners about India and BJP!


Yeah "foreigners are innocent"!!

No minorities or lower castes were lynched in India ever! It was all FAKE NEWS. Anyone who talks about these is anti-national and should be lynched or sent to pakistan!

And finally: Victory in elections washes away all the sins of the past! Namo Namah! :roll:
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:38 am

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So much for bad bad BJP hating minorities. The Muslims themselves voted for BJP in the home town of their most famous religious school :rotfl:


Did all the Muslims of Deoband vote? What is the total electorate and what % voted?
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:44 am

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Did all the Muslims of Deoband vote? What is the total electorate and what % voted?

Do the bloody legwork yourself. I'm off to celebrate.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:47 am

Since some NRI's really are in love with politics of religion: What if Donald Trump were to turn around a declare the United States of America to be a Christian Republic? Deport all immigrants who are not Christians to their home countries? Maybe he should start with cancelling all H1B visa's and force all of them out.

Considering he spends so much time defending the idea of a "Hindu Republic", perhaps @BarfBag would love to return to an India ruled by the Hindu Taliban? No?
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 9:33 am

BawliBooch wrote:
Since some NRI's really are in love with politics of religion: What if Donald Trump were to turn around a declare the United States of America to be a Christian Republic? Deport all immigrants who are not Christians to their home countries? Maybe he should start with cancelling all H1B visa's and force all of them out.

Considering he spends so much time defending the idea of a "Hindu Republic", perhaps @BarfBag would love to return to an India ruled by the Hindu Taliban? No?


Wait. It was you who started with lynching of muslims & Christians. How is BarfBag responsible for politics of religion then?

Why do you find it so difficult to accept that BJP is a party which fights on the agenda of development. Nothing else.
Mayawati is crying EVM tempering. Even she is wondering how did Muslims vote for BJP. You can join her.

And stop comparing US and India in politics. Both are poles apart in issues and solutions.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:16 pm

And the voices stating that Demonetisation will be the end of Rural Indian support for the BJP where?
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:43 pm

The only way to learn truth about the leader is to elect him. This is good news, by 2019 Utter Pradesh will be clear minded.
 
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Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:43 pm

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Wait. It was you who started with lynching of muslims & Christians. How is BarfBag responsible for politics of religion then?

Hmm. So you want us to avoid references to facts which show your darling leader in poor light. Sweep news of attacks on minorities under the carpet is it? Sorry thats not happening.

BarfBag is not responsible for the politics of religion. But the party that he (and you) defend so passionately is guilty of it.


anshabhi wrote:
Why do you find it so difficult to accept that BJP is a party which fights on the agenda of development. Nothing else.

Oh really? The attacks on minorities is an agenda of development? I can understand being in denial, but this is something else!

anshabhi wrote:
And stop comparing US and India in politics. Both are poles apart in issues and solutions.

YOU are the same guy who called Americans "White Christian Terrorists" because a white guy lynched an Indian guy? As I pointed out in that thread, India started out on this path of polarisation & hatred 2 years before. There is a similarity. You are just too blinded by bhakti of Narendra Trump to see it!
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 3:29 pm

Keep crying!

BJP is forming government in Goa and Manipur as well!


dtw2hyd wrote:
The only way to learn truth about the leader is to elect him. This is good news, by 2019 Utter Pradesh will be clear minded.


Just to remind you. UP gave BJP similar majority in 2014 LS polls. UP people chose BJP again only after testing it for 3 years.

@BestWestern. They have duck now!!!
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:05 pm

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Just to remind you. UP gave BJP similar majority in 2014 LS polls. UP people chose BJP again only after testing it for 3 years.



Several states gave both to NDA in 2014. How are they doing after 3 years. All Modi does is to use Air India for foreign trips and bring FDI back to Gujarat. Doesn't even pay AI bills.

BJP is good at two things, cooking books and razzmattaz. Nothing else. Why do you think now foreign think tanks and analysts don't believe any economic numbers coming out of India.

We can discuss this after 2019 Elections in India.
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:10 pm

This will cement Modi, and hopefully drive him to deliver more reform and other seemingly unpalatable changes.

India could be transformed in a Generation.
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:21 pm

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anshabhi wrote:

Just to remind you. UP gave BJP similar majority in 2014 LS polls. UP people chose BJP again only after testing it for 3 years.



Several states gave both to NDA in 2014. How are they doing after 3 years. All Modi does is to use Air India for foreign trips and bring FDI back to Gujarat. Doesn't even pay AI bills.

BJP is good at two things, cooking books and razzmattaz. Nothing else. Why do you think now foreign think tanks and analysts don't believe any economic numbers coming out of India.

We can discuss this after 2019 Elections in India.


As if earlier governments made AI a world famous 5* Airline. You seem to have forgot Praful Patel.
Please don't think you or me or BawliBooch is greater than 200 million people. They know what's the best for them.
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Modi is leading India out of Nehuruvian politics and transforming it into a new India, as BestWestern says.
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 4:57 pm

A good article by Tavleen Singh on how the political pundits & reporters on ground got it wrong. The media selects which riots to highlight and which to brush under the carpet. Riots in WB are not reported but anything in BJP ruled state is highlighted. There has been a history of riots in India, and Media decides which is good & which is bad. Bhagalpur riots, Sikh pogrom etc referred as something to be forgotten about. Corruption is something that can be ignored (given that media is a big beneficiary of it too, makes sense).

This was a vote for development, and thats what many have acknowledged. Its not like BSP/SP etc didn't appeal to muslims or their caste base to vote for them, its just that people saw through their game plan. The so called journalists on the ground were limited to interacting with like-minded people & other journos(or enjoying on company money) and reported what they felt was right or what they thought their owners wanted to hear. Another article on how the media failed to read the voters correctly.

Of course , if anyone goes against the well-entrenched media, they are branded bhakts, being on BJP payroll personally recruited by NaMo, NRIs, chaddiwallahs etc, so be prepared for personal abuse. That's the state of today's journos in India who are quick to label others & abuse them, and then call them trolls! Most of them can't have a civil debate without resorting to personal abuse, but insist they know best! They miss out on the biggest wave in a long time even after camping in UP with army of reporters for months, and later wonder why they are the least trusted in India! Introspection is something that isn't in their dictionary.

Read this article, which talks about one journalist, but applies equally to majority of today's mainstream journos in India. :D
 
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Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:15 pm

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Please don't think you or me or BawliBooch is greater than 200 million people. They know what's the best for them.


I am not questioning UP's judgement.

BJP hasn't done anything extraordinary in the states it won in 2014.

There is nothing transformational other than cooking books to show higher GDP.

During NaMo's DeMo small farmers dumped vegetables because they couldn't sell. The agency which did GDP estimates said, Reliance Fresh sales was higher so unorganized farmers must have done well and increased entire farming sector growth based on organized retail sales. One example The Economist showed how numbers are fudged.

P8-Is, C-17s and all the military hardware Modi is showcasing didn't show up instantaneously.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:53 am

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Keep crying!

BJP is forming government in Goa and Manipur as well!


Yeah! Imagine forming govt after winning a mere 12 seats and then buying out the remaining MLA's from smaller parties to keep out the party that actually won the majority! Very democratic! You would be crying bloody murder if the Congress had attempted to do the same!

2 MLA's in Manipur have mysteriously gone missing allowing the BJP to stake claim despite being in a minority. And you and the NRI bhakt's rejoice at this blatant murder of democracy? Says a lot about what is wrong with India today!

Goa & Manipur: the BJP can form a govt by buying out the MLA's. But these govts will not last. MLA's who have been bought like cattle once will be on the market again in a few months. I am reminded of the BJP's ill-fated experiment with "Operation Kamala" in Karnataka a few years back.

Savarna Privilege prevents you from acknowledging corruption, but celebrating it when your party is the culprit.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:44 am

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The media selects which riots to highlight and which to brush under the carpet. Riots in WB are not reported but anything in BJP ruled state is highlighted.


Aaah! The great Christian conspiracy against the Hindu Republic! Coming from the same guy who called the BBC/Guardian as "Christian media". All media reports that do come out documenting the violence perpetrated by the RSS & BJP is all part of this grand Judeo-Christian conspiracy to defame the emerging Hindu Republic that is seeking to reassert our great Aryavarta! :roll:

Riots in WB were not reported? Riots in Malda were given wide coverage. It was all over the news. But the lie keeps getting repeated: oh the Judeo-Christian media will only report riots when they happen in BJP ruled states. What @blrsea and other NRI bhakts will also conveniently leave out is the role played by the local RSS and BJP units in formenting violence in Malda. Oh! But that is our privilege in a Hindu republic and we should not look too much into it. And anyone who does is anti-Hindu/anti-national and part of the Judeo-Christian conspiracy to undermine India's reemergence on the world stage as an Aryan superpower!

Here is what the Judeo-Christian media is saying about Goa BTW.

"The people of Goa have said “please leave”. The BJP should honour it"

The BJP was in power in Goa. 15 of their 21 MLA's lost their elections: including their Chief Minister. They have a grand total of 13 MLA's while the opposition Congress Party won 17. And yet, the BJP installs a union minister as CM courtesy a pliant governor and horse-trading.

How dare this Judeo-Christian media write such anti-Hindu stories! Send them all to Pakistan!
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:53 am

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Keep crying!

BJP is forming government in Goa and Manipur as well!

This is awesome isn't it ? :highfive:

I originally hoped for 1-2 wins in this election. My thinking was:
UK: good chance of BJP/NDA win
UP: Very tough to break the MY nexus of the SP and Dalit votebank of the BSP. BJP's rainbow coalition requires people to set aside caste and all vote for the same party. Single largest party without majority was my thought, with BSP outside support.
GA: tossup. Too much infighting in state BJP.
Manipur: I figured Congress would win easily. MN had only ever voted Cong.
PB: As long as it was Cong and not AAP I'd be happy
Total 2/5 max

Real world:
UK: 2/3rds majority for NDA :checkmark:
UP: 80% for NDA :shock:
GA: NDA backroom maneuvering genius :crowded:
MN: Ram Madhav does an Arunachal Pradesh again :biggrin:
PB: Thank God Amarinder Singh's Cong won instead of AAP!! BJP should make overtures to get him into the party as he wanted to previously, but was blocked by Badal.
Total: 4/5 :bigthumbsup:
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:03 am

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This is awesome isn't it ? :highfive:

Yes! It is awesome to see democracy being subverted to install a

BarfBag wrote:
GA: NDA backroom maneuvering genius :crowded:
MN: Ram Madhav does an Arunachal Pradesh again :biggrin:

The rest of the world might call it corruption, but this America resident desi thinks the buying and selling of Elected representatives to gain power after loosing the elections is "genius"!

No wonder India is on the express train to Talibani Hell!
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:32 am

blrsea wrote:
A good article by Tavleen Singh on how the political pundits & reporters on ground got it wrong. The media selects which riots to highlight and which to brush under the carpet. Riots in WB are not reported but anything in BJP ruled state is highlighted. There has been a history of riots in India, and Media decides which is good & which is bad. Bhagalpur riots, Sikh pogrom etc referred as something to be forgotten about. Corruption is something that can be ignored (given that media is a big beneficiary of it too, makes sense).


This article by MJ Akbar is even better: The poor have embraced Modi, and the vote-merchants still don’t get it
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I am not questioning UP's judgement.

BJP hasn't done anything extraordinary in the states it won in 2014.

There is nothing transformational other than cooking books to show higher GDP.

Losers weepers. UP votes 73/80 for NDA in GE2014, and then 325/403 now. So the conclusions are:
a) 200m people know what they're getting and see real change between 2014 and 2017 to vote NDA so overwhelmingly.
b) 200m people are idiots and dtw2hyd knows better since govt cooked the books etc.
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The BJP was in power in Goa. 15 of their 21 MLA's lost their elections: including their Chief Minister. They have a grand total of 13 MLA's while the opposition Congress Party won 17. And yet, the BJP installs a union minister as CM courtesy a pliant governor and horse-trading.

Never heard of a post poll coalition ? 17/40 is no mandate. When INC demonstrates 21/40 they get a shot.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:41 am

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BarfBag wrote:
This is awesome isn't it ? :highfive:

Yes! It is awesome to see democracy being subverted to install a

For someone who calls others names and claims vehemently that he resides in India, you don't seem to know what a post poll coalition is.

Oh, and how about your excellent accurate groundlevel reporting in Bundelkhand ? All those seats went to BJP.
And the Jats who you reported on the ground were VERY angry at BJP ? 63/71 Phase 1 seats went to BJP.
And Muslim majority Deoband plus several other districts with high Muslims concentration votes BJP :rotfl:

Seriously doubt you reside in India or hold an Indian passport. You don't know what a post poll coalition is. You claimed to be a reporter knowledgeable about trends at the ground level in 2 UP regions but were WAY off.

I, on the other hand, told you the more Hindus are mocked, the more effectively we will form a rainbow coalition. So yes, keep mocking us. I won't respond to you. I'll just copy every single Hindu-hating message you post and send it out to the vast WA and FB network that keeps itself up to date on the Hinduphobia rampant in the country. Thanks for doing your bit to help the NDA win.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:52 am

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This will cement Modi, and hopefully drive him to deliver more reform and other seemingly unpalatable changes.

Modi today has the most political power of any Indian leader since Indira Gandhi in 1971 . His party controls the lower house of Parliament and will soon have the upper house as well as the President and Veep selections. In other words they have the legislative and executive powers locked up through the remainder of the term, with a solid base of support for 2019. Bring on the major economic reforms *and* the important constitutional amendments. Too many leftist focused constitutional amendments from the 1970s that need to go.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:14 am

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For someone who calls others names and claims vehemently that he resides in India, you don't seem to know what a post poll coalition is.

Post-Poll coalition is one thing. Kidnapping opposition MLA's from Airports & mass purchase of MLA's to form a Govt is another. And to do it after you have LOST the mandate is quite another! Not surprised that you defend this kind of skullduggery in your desire to see a "Hindu Aryan Govt" take India to superpowerdom.

BarfBag wrote:
Oh, and how about your excellent accurate groundlevel reporting in Bundelkhand ? All those seats went to BJP.
And the Jats who you reported on the ground were VERY angry at BJP ? 63/71 Phase 1 seats went to BJP.
And Muslim majority Deoband plus several other districts with high Muslims concentration votes BJP :rotfl:


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Seriously doubt you reside in India or hold an Indian passport. You don't know what a post poll coalition is. You claimed to be a reporter knowledgeable about trends at the ground level in 2 UP regions but were WAY off.

:) Awww. A journalist is supposed to report on what he sees not give an "analysis": thats what political consultants do. I am the former, not the latter.

There was an undercurrent of fury against Modi - but how much of that translated into winning votes with a divided and cashless opposition and a BJP sitting on piles of new 2000 rs notes? Ofcourse those uncomfortable questions are to be swept under the carpet.

Some gyaan coming BTW from a US resident bigot who cheers as another bhakt calls Americans "White Christian Terrorists". What is tragic, is that even after living years in the USA, mooching off American pie stolen from a white American, some desi's have still not managed to assimilate themselves into the country that feeds them and continue to forment hatred and corruption. Ungrateful much?
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:14 am

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blrsea wrote:
The media selects which riots to highlight and which to brush under the carpet. Riots in WB are not reported but anything in BJP ruled state is highlighted.



Here is what the Judeo-Christian media is saying about Goa BTW.

"The people of Goa have said “please leave”. The BJP should honour it"

The BJP was in power in Goa. 15 of their 21 MLA's lost their elections: including their Chief Minister. They have a grand total of 13 MLA's while the opposition Congress Party won 17. And yet, the BJP installs a union minister as CM courtesy a pliant governor and horse-trading.

How dare this Judeo-Christian media write such anti-Hindu stories! Send them all to Pakistan!


So if Cong aligns with the other two parties and forms government, its all fine and sundry, but BJP shouldn't do it? Given that no party got absolute majority, its strange that allying with one party is fine but not with the other? In the electoral history of India, the party with the largest non-majority seats hasn't always formed the government. Of course, no other party has done it earlier :sarcastic:

And why do you always mention judeo-christian media, like what they say in some other countries? India has always welcomed jews, and has never attributed any conspiracy to jews unlike other religions. Maybe your bias leaking through?? Not surprising given your other rants.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:19 am

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And why do you always mention judeo-christian media, like what they say in some other countries?


Ha ha! Nice try! YOU said Christian media in one of the other threads in a vain attempt to dismiss news reports of attacks on Christians. YOU did. Rakesh Sinha & Ram Madhav - both RSS ideologues used the term "Judeo-Christian conspiracy" on repeated occassions.

I was being sarcastic BTW - but I know Bhakt's blinded by bhakti, bigotry & hatred for minorities have a low understanding of sarcasm.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:22 am

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:) Awww. A journalist is supposed to report on what he sees not give an "analysis": thats what political consultants do. I am the former, not the latter.

There was an undercurrent of fury against Modi - but how much of that translated into winning votes with a divided and cashless opposition and a BJP sitting on piles of new 2000 rs notes? Ofcourse those uncomfortable questions are to be swept under the carpet.

Some gyaan coming BTW from a US resident bigot who cheers as another bhakt calls Americans "White Christian Terrorists". What is tragic, is that even after living years in the USA, mooching off American pie stolen from a white American, some desi's have still not managed to assimilate themselves into the country that feeds them and continue to forment hatred and corruption. Ungrateful much?


In an ideal world, yes a journalist is supposed to report factual information. But in a highly polarized & political media in India, they report what their owners wish to hear or what they hope will influence voters to vote their way. So, majority of journos getting it wrong is not surprising. As seen right here by self-declared journalists, with so much hate & name calling and bias in them, can one really expect a honest factual report from them? They can't write one post without getting personal or being abusive, and expecting anything close to honest assessment from them is like trying to get water from stone. All they can do is just name calling and abuse and hoping to deflect from their weakness.

Perhaps some yoga and meditation might bring some calmness and inner peace and lessen their aggression. But then yoga is probably hindu brahmanical thought to crush muslims & lower castes, so they will stay away from it.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:24 am

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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:28 am

BawliBooch wrote:
There was an undercurrent of fury against Modi

:rotfl: Sounds like a SUPER strong undercurrent indeed.
UP: 325/403 for NDA
UK: 57/70 for NDA. Total 382 from undivided UP - the most since Nehru's 1952 win.
First ever chance to form Manipur govt, where NDA was a nobody until now
Forming govt in Goa.
Neck and neck with the "we will win 100 seats!!" AAP in PB

Yes, "undercurrent of fury". NDA could always use that undercurrent :bigthumbsup:
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:32 am

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Patriotic map of India (updated to reflect latest election results)

INC's gotta go from Karnataka next. And Amarinder Singh encouraged to switch sides to BJP in Punjab. The only reason he's not already BJP is the Badals blocked him.

That will give the Congress very little source of cash to fight GE2019 with.
BawliBooch wrote:
:) Awww. A journalist is supposed to report on what he sees not give an "analysis": thats what political consultants do. I am the former, not the latter.

There's no such thing in India as an unbiased political reporter. Not you, and not anyone else.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:33 am

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blrsea wrote:
And why do you always mention judeo-christian media, like what they say in some other countries?


Ha ha! Nice try! YOU said Christian media in one of the other threads in a vain attempt to dismiss news reports of attacks on Christians. YOU did. Rakesh Sinha & Ram Madhav - both RSS ideologues used the term "Judeo-Christian conspiracy" on repeated occassions.

I was being sarcastic BTW - but I know Bhakt's blinded by bhakti, bigotry & hatred for minorities have a low understanding of sarcasm.


I said christian because you brought up a report by christian NGO to "prove" your claims. And I stand by it. But I never mentioned "judeo-christian". The real bigotry & hate is being shown right here in this thread, by those who get personal & abuse others and do name calling. Ah so much respect for the vaunted liberal values of being open to civilized discussion
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:34 am

blrsea: Stop calling him liberal. He doesn't deserve the tag, even ironically. He's a JNU leftist. Look at the guy's map. He'll mock the actions of the entire country for not voting his way.
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:35 am

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First ever chance to form Manipur govt, where NDA was a nobody until now
Forming govt in Goa.


Forming govt in Manipur by buying MLA's from other parties and ensuring pliant Governor doesnt bring in the Anti-Defection law to stop the sale.
http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/manipur-assembly-election-results-bjp-coup-congress-ibobi/1/903127.html

Goa - again buying out Vijai Sardesai and his MLA's to form a govt AFTER being booted out in a humiliating election defeat.

Repeat of "Operation Kamala" - code word for large scale buying out of opposition MLA's using slush money - first tried in Karnataka, then Uttaranchal, then Arunachal and now Manipur?

Again Masterstroke not corruption! Right? ;)
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:40 am

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Again Masterstroke not corruption! Right? ;)

Of course. Remember what Bismarck said about politics and sausages. Absolutely anything that can be done and gotten away with should be done. Your side should do the same - as it has done many times before.

Anyone looking for genteel 'pehle aap' behavior is in the wrong line of business. You should write about cooking or flower arrangement if this bothers you so much.
 
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Re: BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:44 am

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I said christian because you brought up a report by christian NGO to "prove" your claims. And I stand by it. But I never mentioned "judeo-christian".

You responded to a link from GUARDIAN as "Christian media". You didnt say Judeo-Christian - but RSS ideologues have. And I used it for sarcastic effect.

blrsea wrote:
The real bigotry & hate is being shown right here in this thread, by those who get personal & abuse others and do name calling. Ah so much respect for the vaunted liberal values of being open to civilized discussion

Is "bhakt" an abuse? Do you see me or anyone else calling names like Presstitute and worse?

What I have done is called out the rampant hypocrisy in abusing American's as "White Christian terrorists" while defending with gusto the attacks of minority Muslims & Christians in India by members of the ruling party.

BarfBag wrote:
blrsea: Stop calling him liberal. He doesn't deserve the tag, even ironically. He's a JNU leftist.

There it is! Another example of the double standards.

JNU is being used as an abuse to dismiss criticism of a govt - its being turned into a synonym for anti-national in the Sanghi copybook.

Unlike someone educated in a shakha, a person educated at JNU stands up for fellow humans and will fight for freedom & liberty of all people irrespective of caste, creed, gender or identity. A Sanghi will defend murder and rape of those who stand in the way of dream of establishing the grand Aryavarta republic where Savarnas will rule!

After reading the drivel posted by some America resident Sanghi's, I thank my parents for having saved me from a Shakha, and sent me to JNU instead! If I am anti-national for standing up for peoples freedoms, then so be it!
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:47 am

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Anyone looking for genteel 'pehle aap' behavior is in the wrong line of business. You should write about cooking or flower arrangement if this bothers you so much.


Aaah! From defending the lynching of minorities in the country he abandoned, to defending corruption & skullduggery! All in a days work for a minority hating NRI, pumped up on Sanghi hormones & GoMutra! :roll:
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:49 am

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Aaah! From defending the lynching of minorities in the country he abandoned, to defending corruption & skullduggery! All in a days work for a minority hating NRI, pumped up on Sanghi hormones & GoMutra!

Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?
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After reading the drivel posted by some America resident Sanghi's, I thank my parents for having saved me from a Shakha, and sent me to JNU instead! If I am anti-national for standing up for peoples freedoms, then so be it!

Considering their support of Afzal Terrorist and the like, you don't give a damn about anyone's freedoms.

I'll enjoy watching the leftist political space continuously shrink as your shrieks grow louder.
 
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Re: BJP near 2/3rd majority in UP and Uttarakhand

Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:54 am

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BawliBooch wrote:
Again Masterstroke not corruption! Right? ;)

Of course. Remember what Bismarck said about politics and sausages. Absolutely anything that can be done and gotten away with should be done. Your side should do the same - as it has done many times before.

Anyone looking for genteel 'pehle aap' behavior is in the wrong line of business. You should write about cooking or flower arrangement if this bothers you so much.


How quickly one forgets the CBI stick and money carrot used to get support from BSP/SP in the earlier UPA, or the money for votes where the supposedly gentleman MMS govt used cash from US NRIs to purchase MPs to ensure majority.

As I mentioned before, for the Indian leftist media, they decide whats right and whats wrong. And how to spin each story. For e.g,, a gun wielding terrorist who is shot down in an encounter is portrayed as an innocent headmaster's son, a person who shouts slogans saying we will break up India is projected as a student leader etc.

For the person abusing everyone who disagrees with him as NRI, sanghi etc, I wonder if he truly is in India himself?? Not doubting his journalistic abilities given his bias, capability to abuse at drop of hat etc, but his lack of basic poltical knowledge raises that doubt. Then again, given its Indian media, one doesn't need to be capable & ethical, all one needs to have is right connections and ability to report as per their ideology and absolute hate for anyone with opposing views. So I guess he ticks all the right boxes I guess
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:00 am

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I wonder if he truly is in India himself??

I doubt it. He's on record in the mil forum claiming he returned to India a decade ago but is considering leaving. Suggests he's an OCI/PIO with such ease of exit options available.

Sometimes the guy who so vehemently calls others names is the guy who goes home and looks in relief at his US passport knowing he has a way out if his behavior can get him in trouble.
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Not doubting his journalistic abilities given his bias,
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:02 am

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Ah so much respect for the vaunted liberal values of being open to civilized discussion


What do you understand about "liberal values"?

We'd love to engage in debate. But are human values up for debate?

"Fascism, Oppression, Bigotry, Dehumanization" - how do you f-ing "engage" with that?

"You know u're unfair, inhumane, but let's talk!" Really?

Ok! I will engage with these neo-fascists! But understand that the following are NON-NEGOTIABLE!
1. Civil liberties
2. Human rights
3. Equal rights
4. Human dignity

And for people who say "Understand them", "Engage with them", "Speak their language"... heres my thoughts on that...
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:11 am

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Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?

Beating wives (or abandoning wives as in the case of Dear Leader) is for sanskari Cow-piss drinking, Shakha-going types who believe in the institution of marriage. Us JNU types dont believe in marriage an all that jazz! we believe in "free love" and open relationships and other anti-Hindu things like that. We are "anti-nationals" from JNU sir - we are too busy counting condoms on the JNU campus to be doing anything else - or didnt you get that WhatsApp message?


BarfBag wrote:
I'll enjoy watching the leftist political space continuously shrink as your shrieks grow louder.


I might have enjoyed the Sanghi's in America squirming as Trump supporting maniacs do to them what they have been doing to minorities back in India. But then my anti-national, liberal upbringing doesnt allow me that hypocrisy.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:11 am

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blrsea wrote:
Ah so much respect for the vaunted liberal values of being open to civilized discussion


What do you understand about "liberal values"?

You're not a liberal. You're a leftist hardliner.

The essence of liberal thought is an openness to diversity of opinion, and the willingness to accept that others will hold a contrarian opinion to you, which you may disagree with, but which you vehemently support their right to maintain and propagate, and will not attack them for maintaining it.

You're a liberal the day you agree every BJP supporter has a valid point of view and a right to pursue their own choice of political direction, just as you get to choose yours. Until then, you're just a JNU-bred leftist hardliner who supports terrorists like Afzal Guru and Binayak Sen.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:12 am

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blrsea wrote:
Ah so much respect for the vaunted liberal values of being open to civilized discussion


What do you understand about "liberal values"?

We'd love to engage in debate. But are human values up for debate?

"Fascism, Oppression, Bigotry, Dehumanization" - how do you f-ing "engage" with that?

"You know u're unfair, inhumane, but let's talk!" Really?

Ok! I will engage with these neo-fascists! But understand that the following are NON-NEGOTIABLE!
1. Civil liberties
2. Human rights
3. Equal rights
4. Human dignity

And for people who say "Understand them", "Engage with them", "Speak their language"... heres my thoughts on that...


Dude, you are just an abusive anger-filled guy with no values, liberal or conservative. I have seen you crap in multiple threads with zero relation to politics bringing Modi/RSS/BJP everywhere. You want to abuse Modi in this thread, fine, this is a political thread. But even here, you haven't responded to any arguments other than calling names and being abusive. Your absolute lack of knowledge of Indian politics or elections raises a big red flag. Your posts shows you have zero capability for debate or rational thinking. You might think you are an intellectual and quote some random tweet which sounds deep, but believe me, you are just off your deep end. You just need to calm down and stay out if you can't control your anger, maybe stay off alcohol or do some anger management class.

If you think calling some random anonymous posters in internet forums as sanghis/rss agents/bhakts etc calms your nerves and gives you satisfaction and soothes your ego, I feel pity for you. In that case carry on, why should I deny some peace to a troubled soul. If abusing people in internet forum is the chicken soup for your soul, please go ahead.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:13 am

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BarfBag wrote:
Have you stopped beating your wife yet ?

Beating wives (or abandoning wives as in the case of Dear Leader) is for sanskari Cow-piss drinking, Shakha-going types who believe in the institution of marriage. Us JNU types dont believe in marriage an all that jazz! we believe in "free love" and open relationships and other anti-Hindu things like that. We are "anti-nationals" from JNU sir - we are too busy counting condoms on the JNU campus to be doing anything else - or didnt you get that WhatsApp message?

So how many people do you hand out your wife to in any given week ?
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:27 am

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Dude, you are just an abusive anger-filled guy with no values, liberal or conservative. I have seen you crap in multiple threads with zero relation to politics bringing Modi/RSS/BJP everywhere. You want to abuse Modi in this thread, fine, this is a political thread. But even here, you haven't responded to any arguments other than calling names and being abusive.

Name calling? Calling out someone for defending lynching of minorities is "name calling". Calling out someones hypocrisy for describing Americans as "White Chrisitan Terrorists" is name calling?

And right on cue, here is some sanskari, #ModiTongue for you!
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So how many people do you hand out your wife to in any given week ?


Did someone just say NAME CALLING?
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:31 am

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Name calling? Calling out someone for defending lynching of minorities is "name calling". Calling out someones hypocrisy for describing Americans as "White Chrisitan Terrorists" is name calling?

And right on cue, here is some sanskari, #ModiTongue for you!
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So how many people do you hand out your wife to in any given week ?


Did someone just say NAME CALLING?


Hmm, do you understand what you meant by being in open-relationship? Leaving that aside, If you have the inclination, go through this thread or the previous ones where you enlightened everyone with your knowledge, and see who started name calling first. Like I said before, your typical tactic when someone responds with opposing views(when its not even related to any violence) is to call them sanghi/bigoted/NRI/piss-drinking etc, and then if someone responds in kind, play victim? If you look at this thread, people can easily figure out who started all the name calling first. And I have seen you do it multiple times, not just once.
 
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Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:36 am

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Did someone just say NAME CALLING?

Being a one armed waiter ? Can hand it out but can't take it back ?

The leftist hardline press is the next one in the crosshairs. NDTV has a Rs.2030cr tax judgement against it - news from last week:
RBI rejects NDTV's plea to compound Rs.2030cr FEMA fine

More to come. The leftist press - fed for years with foreign cash - need a through cleaning out.

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