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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:23 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Revelation wrote:


And, on the D's side of the dock.... Hillary personal adviser Burns Strider

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A decade of 'creepy behavior': Campaign aide Hillary refused to fire in 2008 after sexual harassment allegations were made against him is accused of 'stalking, touching and making inappropriate comments' to two more women in 2016 pro-Clinton role

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sment.html

A young woman filed an official complaint against her boss Burns Strider in 2008 and against the advice of senior aides, Clinton reportedly refused to fire him from the campaign.

Instead he had his pay docked and was demoted while his accuser was reassigned to a different department.

So when Clinton lost the Democratic candidate bid to Barack Obama, Strider's reputation wasn't hurt, and he continued on working in high power positions in Washington.


Was watching CNN today and her campaign manager wanted him fired and Hillary overruled. Wow.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:54 pm

NIKV69 wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Revelation wrote:


And, on the D's side of the dock.... Hillary personal adviser Burns Strider

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A decade of 'creepy behavior': Campaign aide Hillary refused to fire in 2008 after sexual harassment allegations were made against him is accused of 'stalking, touching and making inappropriate comments' to two more women in 2016 pro-Clinton role

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... sment.html

A young woman filed an official complaint against her boss Burns Strider in 2008 and against the advice of senior aides, Clinton reportedly refused to fire him from the campaign.

Instead he had his pay docked and was demoted while his accuser was reassigned to a different department.

So when Clinton lost the Democratic candidate bid to Barack Obama, Strider's reputation wasn't hurt, and he continued on working in high power positions in Washington.


Was watching CNN today and her campaign manager wanted him fired and Hillary overruled. Wow.


Hillary Clinton Issues a Non-Apology for Shielding a Harasser: The Daily Show

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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:04 am

DIRECTFLT wrote:
"No, that's not it at all.... the point being.... it's offensive because the mean-spirited political clap-trap is so one-sided.
The worst of the one-sideedness coming from the two loudmouth jerks"

No need to downplay you and NIKV69's contributions to this website. Don't be so hard on yourselves. Also, could you please offer a description of what "one-sideeness" means. Never heard of that word before.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:33 am

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I've been married for 60 years. My first wife died after 14 years of marriage. We would be married still had she lived.


You can't say that because you just don't know what the future might have held for your marriage.
 
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:38 am

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Last night, I went to a party with my husband. At one point, I was seated on the sofa checking a message on my phone, drink in hand, when a man old enough to be my father, someone not even remotely attractive to me, approached me quickly and aggressively and then sat down on the sofa next to me such that our bodies were in close contact. I quickly scooted away and used body language and a cold demeanor to make it clear that his advance wasn't appreciated. I also made sure my wedding ring was plainly visible. He scooched up to me again and I kept backing away. I didn't want to make a scene in someone else's party in their house out of a man who had been a mentor and friend to the host.

I explained that I was married and not on the market. A few minutes later, as I passed in front of him to go refill my glass of (very excellent) punch he put his hands around my body in a way that *nobody* who isn't in a consensual sexual relationship with me should touch me, a way that crossed a border into outright sexual assault. I squirmed away again. I'm not proud of it, but I wound up leaving the party. I should have just told him to get his creepy paws off of me, but he was a close friend of the host. I was angry and felt violated, but I couldn't tell anyone other than my husband.

This is how sexual harassment and assault begins; someone gets trapped into it and feels that protesting in that space and time will cost them dearly. So they say nothing. I, an educated, strong man, felt like I wasn't in a place to protest any louder.

As for him, he clearly felt entitled to sex with me. It's always felt that way when some creepy guy goes after me. A lot of people theorize that rapists get off on the power, and in some cases that might be true, but in most cases where I have been the target of sexual harassment or outright assault.

I'm not going to get into partisanship, but I will get into a discussion of why this happens. It isn't divorce. It isn't gay marriage or the open acceptance of homosexuality. It isn't sexual imagery in media. It isn't video games. It's men (it's almost always men) who feel entitled to sex with whomever they target. This isn't anything new. This was going on long before gay marriage and divorce and sexy media. This is about entitled men.

You aren't entitled to sex with *anyone.*


I think most men would have belted him when he groped you, why didn't you, to hell with him being a mentor to your host, sometimes you have to do the right thing.
 
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Jan 31, 2018 5:35 pm

Kiwirob wrote:
I think most men would have belted him when he groped you, why didn't you, to hell with him being a mentor to your host, sometimes you have to do the right thing.


1) That's called "victim blaming." I am not to blame for not having belted him.

2) Because the move would have been retaliatory and not defensive, I would be legally liable for assault should he press charges, and that would be...bad.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:24 pm

He assaulted you when he wrapped himself around you, at the very least a hard knee to the balls would have dne the job.

A lot of these victiums didn't do anything which allowed these people to contiune with there bad behaviour, victiums not doing anything is part of the problem and they desirve to carry some of the blame.
 
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:20 pm

The father of three victims of Larry Nasser lunged at him : https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/02/us/larry ... index.html

Personally I think the rape apologist Michigan assistant attorney general needs to be fired, disbarred, and shunned from any legal job ever again. Nasser's already been found guilty, let the father do what he wants.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Fri Feb 02, 2018 6:23 pm

She needs to uphold the law.

Lynching people is not an option.
 
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Fri Feb 02, 2018 8:22 pm

bennett123 wrote:
She needs to uphold the law.

Lynching people is not an option.


Of course, they need to be given a fair trial first. Once however (and if) they are found guilty, all protection should go away.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:52 pm

Super80Fan wrote:
bennett123 wrote:
She needs to uphold the law.

Lynching people is not an option.


Of course, they need to be given a fair trial first. Once however (and if) they are found guilty, all protection should go away.


And if it turns out they weren't guilty?

I'm not saying this guy is innocent, but instead of acting like wild animals just throw him in prison where he belongs.
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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Sun Feb 04, 2018 3:33 am

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Re: Sexual Assault - all of it

Wed Feb 07, 2018 10:03 pm

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Now it's Steve Wynn's turn in the dock: Wynn Resorts shares plummet after Steve Wynn is accused of sexual misconduct says:

The Las Vegas casino mogul, who built the Mirage, Treasure Island and Bellagio hotels, allegedly pressured some employees to perform sex acts, according the Journal’s report. The newspaper, which interviewed more than 150 people who have worked at Wynn’s casinos or who had been told about the alleged behavior, reported that Wynn paid a former manicurist at his resort a $7.5 million settlement after she claimed that he pressured her to have sex with him. The report also details allegations that Wynn pressured massage therapists to perform sex acts in exchange for $1,000 tips.

Wynn claims these are trumped-up charges (see what I did there?) due to his ongoing divorce battle.

Strange, he should have had no problems finding people willing to give him a happy ending for $1000, so why would he hit on his own employees?


As per viewtopic.php?p=20154393#p20154393 he's decided to resign because of the "avalanche of negative publicity"...
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Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:44 am

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