Michael Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

on contacts with Russian ambassador.

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and court records indicate he was acting under instructions from senior Trump transition officials in his dealings with the diplomat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f935184f10

This is a WaPo link but most non-fake news media outlets will have the story.

ABC News reports, “Michael Flynn promised ‘full cooperation to the Mueller team’ and is prepared to testify that as a candidate, Donald Trump ‘directed him to make contact with the Russians.’ ” That could be direct testimony implicating the president of campaign collusion.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ri ... baf77fec92

Öhm? So much for rogue agent...

Best regards
Thomas

All this winning is exhausting. You have to love this news. Earlier this year, after Flynn was fired, reports in the press repeatedly indicated Trump was upset he'd been advised to fire Flynn. Trump was certain he should have supported his close friend and loyal supporter. Fast forward 11 month, and that loyal supporter is prepared to testify against him. Slimy people have a way of turning against you when their ass is on the line.

It's also funny given the NPR report I listened to just the other day. Apparently Trump spent Thanksgiving among the bootlickers at Mar-a-Lago, being regaled with stories of how great he is. At the same time, he was telling members that he was certain the investigation would soon be over, likely by the end of the year, and that nothing would come of it.

Some more from NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/p ... tions.html

WASHINGTON — Since it first emerged that Michael T. Flynn had repeated phone conversations last December with
Russia’s ambassador to the United States, one of the most significant unanswered questions has been what transition team officials and
Donald J. Trump, then the president-elect, knew about the calls.

The documents made public on Friday show that the transition team knew that Mr. Flynn was going to be discussing sanctions
with the then ambassador, Sergey I. Kislyak, and raise new questions about what President-elect Trump knew about the conversations.

The Guilty plea is, in itself, interesting. While there were probably several other charges the FBI selected the Lying charge. That is a very clear WARNING to others that they should not lie to the FB I.

NBC has confirmed that one "very senior member" for one call was Trump's son-in-law, Kushner. If Kushner has a choice of lying to the FBI or dumping his father -in-law (and his brother-in-laws) to the FBI that would be explosive. Regardless Kushner's marriage is heading to stormy weather.

The other interesting "very senior member" who might be involved is is AG Sessions. He has. refused to make any statement involving Trump in the Congressional hearings, but he can be directed to respond by Mueller

And then there is the VP.

Just do presidential pardon and be done with it.

And in the shock of all shocks, it's now being reported Jared Kushner was the one who ordered Flynn to contact the Russians: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles ... act-russia

I've never been more shocked...

If what is being said above is accurate I am confident that Trump will be able to state that Flynn is a liar and nothing like this happened. And then of course he will repeat his call for a quick end to the investigation.

Tugg

Ken777 wrote:

The Guilty plea is, in itself, interesting. While there were probably several other charges the FBI selected the Lying charge.

As typically happens with special prosecutors, the alleged crime - Russian election collusion - that initiated Mueller's investigation has proven fruitless but we're left with a process crime (perjury) in order to show some results. Flynn should not have perjured himself and he should be punished for it. Flynn's contact with the Russian ambassador was legal and occurred after the election.

Ken777 wrote:

That is a very clear WARNING to others that they should not lie to the FB I.

The warning is that you should never talk to the FBI or the police, ever. Never never never. Your words can only hurt you and never help you. Given enough questioning, prosecutors can always find some statement that was untrue or misleading. That's just human nature. How people like Mike Flynn don't understand that is pretty amazing.

Notice what Hillary Clinton's team did under FBI investigation. Nobody said a word and they all walked.

seahawk wrote:

Just do presidential pardon and be done with it.

Please do, that will get the impeachment process rolling pretty quickly.

Here's where it gets even better: Trump can't run away from this guy. The WH put out a statement, spinning Flynn as "an advisor for 25 days and a former Obama official", before saying that the Obama administration actually allowed Flynn to engaged with Kislyak.

seahawk wrote:

Just do presidential pardon and be done with it.

Wouldn't that be an admission of guilt? By all means, please do. The impeachment process can begin and the 2018 elections will be a blue wave.

If he plead guilty, does that mean he cut a deal?

seb146 wrote:

If he plead guilty, does that mean he cut a deal?

Almost certainly. With his part of the deal being to talk copiously about many, many things.

Think of him as being the center of a spider web.

Don't forget that Flynn is also trying to protect his son. When Kushner's turn comes he will not be protecting daddy-in-law.

The singing is going to go from solos to full chorale.

DfwRevolution wrote:

As typically happens with special prosecutors, the alleged crime - Russian election collusion - that initiated Mueller's investigation has proven fruitless but we're left with a process crime (perjury) in order to show some results. Flynn should not have perjured himself and he should be punished for it. Flynn's contact with the Russian ambassador was legal and occurred after the election.

Four indictments so far, including the president's "Inner Circle" is far from fruitless and is simply a start of the Special Prosecutor - especially with Kushner being identified.

We also need to remember that Flynn had many other legal risks, from obstruction of justice to his games with Turkey. His lawyer was pretty good at getting a deal with Mueller when Flynn could have looked at a lot of years if all

Your eagerness to try to make this trivial reminds me of the lost hopes of folks in the Nixon White House. While in public you can maintain that position I think you do need to prepare for something far worse. Looks like Flynn's lawyer also got some protection for Flynn's son as well. Flynn had to have a lot of valuable information for Mueller to have signed off on the deal.

BobPatterson wrote:

When Kushner's turn comes he will not be protecting daddy-in-law.

Hmm...I don't know. What's to stop Trump from stepping in and issuing a pardon for Kushner taking full blame (i.e. lie to investigators)? I would expect that he will take the downfall. Of course, if Trump doesn't show him loyalty, I could see Kushner turn into a songbird. My guess is that Trump's lack of loyalty towards his own is what prompted Flynn to talk; he knows Trump is setting up distance between them, even after Flynn risked it all for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Kushner or any other official cracked under the same conditions.

My bet is that after Kushner, Sessions will follow. He seems to not recall a lot AND not want to directly answer simple yes or no questions.

"You have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide".

I can already hear Trump saying there's nothing to see here, Flynn was just a minor player in the campaign and he hardly knew him, just like he tried with the other canary that sang in the first wave of indictments. He's a master of deflection, only this time I think he's in some deep kim-chi. The hounds are sniffing at the door now.

I would think everyone who saw his attacks during the elections would recognize this is not a good guy to put in power. Your mother could tell you. Still apparently many people are impressed by this kind of characters / behavior. Scarry stupidity in my opinion. Bring on that IQ exam for voters..

I assume Hillary Clinton is sending Flynn her thoughts and prayers!

Obama warned Trump about Flynn. Trump ignored Obama, because of course he did.

Ken777 wrote:

Michael Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

on contacts with Russian ambassador.

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and court records indicate he was acting under instructions from senior Trump transition officials in his dealings with the diplomat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f935184f10

This is a WaPo link but most non-fake news media outlets will have the story.

Clinton has lied to the FBI as well but she gets a pass as usual

I hope for the deal Flynn made, which while making him a felon will likely mean a few months or no time in jail, that he takes out all up to and including Donald Trump (with Impeachment). Personally I want Flynn and the others to rot in a rat infested basement jail will bread and water for the rest of their lives.
Problems are that Pres. Trump can give Flynn a pardon so killing the deal (unless pending charges in NY State that Trump cannot pardon), at a trial defense attorneys will try to rip Flynn saying if he lied to the FBI than how truthful can he be now and maybe juries won't buy his stories. At the least others he rats on may make deals too so to keep out of jail.
So let's not get our hopes too high and then be disappointed if Flynn's deal is a bust.

ltbewr wrote:

I hope for the deal Flynn made, which while making him a felon will likely mean a few months or no time in jail, that he takes out all up to and including Donald Trump (with Impeachment). Personally I want Flynn and the others to rot in a rat infested basement jail will bread and water for the rest of their lives.
Problems are that Pres. Trump can give Flynn a pardon so killing the deal (unless pending charges in NY State that Trump cannot pardon), at a trial defense attorneys will try to rip Flynn saying if he lied to the FBI than how truthful can he be now and maybe juries won't buy his stories. At the least others he rats on may make deals too so to keep out of jail.
So let's not get our hopes too high and then be disappointed if Flynn's deal is a bust.

Why do you want him to rot in jail cuz he lied to the FBI? Then by all means put him in the slam and don't forget to take Hillary too she also lied to the FBI.

Martha Steward lied to the FBI, she got two years, lock the greedy liar up after he bags Trump or at least Kushner. He could get five years, reduce it to two.

RE: Flynn actions after the Election

DfwRevolution wrote:

Notice what Hillary Clinton's team did under FBI investigation. Nobody said a word and they all walked.

30 years, tens of millions in investigations, and still bupkis on HRC while even klansman Sessions won't take GOP orders to go after HRC. Barely a year and we've got multiple indictments and Flynn singing like a canary.

I think what scared Flynn into singing is that Mueller had gathered some pretty nasty stuff on him but also his son. He seemed to want to protect his son from going to jail, and that's probably part of the deal he stroke with the prosecution.

Blood is thicker than water...
Now let's see if the same applies for the Trumps.

seahawk wrote:

Just do presidential pardon and be done with it.

Yeah, let's have a blanket pardon for Flynn, and then another one (Jared), and then another one (Junior). And then let's have it tested in court if someone can be pardoned before any conviction.

Where are you from seahawk?

DfwRevolution wrote:

Ken777 wrote:

The Guilty plea is, in itself, interesting. While there were probably several other charges the FBI selected the Lying charge.

As typically happens with special prosecutors

C'mon, DFW, self-appointed expert in the history of special prosecutors:

1) How many have there been to begin with?

2) How many of those result in a White House employee (nevermind the National Security Advisor) striking a plea deal?

You're a know-nothing apologist IDIOT, with your head in the sand. It's not too late to save yourself from drowning!

DfwRevolution wrote:

the alleged crime - Russian election collusion -

It ain't alleged, North Texas. It's been proven again and again and again and again and again. "WikiLeaks, I love WikiLeaks"

Only the willfully blind can't connect the dots.

(And those willfully blind people, ironically, are the same ones who so easily engage in conspiracy theories like Comet Ping Pong and whatever losers Sean Hannity, Alex Jones, or Laura Ingraham dream up every day of the week.)

Grab your blankie, Dallas boy, going to be a wild ride.

DIRECTFLT wrote:

RE: Flynn actions after the Election

Go have a nothing burger with your neighbor DFWRevolution and send me the bill. I'll pay for extra cheese.

Maverick611, will you pay for the fancy mustard?

Seb146, will you throw in for some jalapenos?

Einsteinboricua, can we top it off with some bacon?

stratosphere wrote:

ltbewr wrote:

I hope for the deal Flynn made, which while making him a felon will likely mean a few months or no time in jail, that he takes out all up to and including Donald Trump (with Impeachment). Personally I want Flynn and the others to rot in a rat infested basement jail will bread and water for the rest of their lives.
Problems are that Pres. Trump can give Flynn a pardon so killing the deal (unless pending charges in NY State that Trump cannot pardon), at a trial defense attorneys will try to rip Flynn saying if he lied to the FBI than how truthful can he be now and maybe juries won't buy his stories. At the least others he rats on may make deals too so to keep out of jail.
So let's not get our hopes too high and then be disappointed if Flynn's deal is a bust.

Why do you want him to rot in jail cuz he lied to the FBI? Then by all means put him in the slam and don't forget to take Hillary too she also lied to the FBI.

What does any of the above have to do with Hillary? I thought you guys were a "rule of law" bunch and only interested in "justice."

YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK.

bgm wrote:

[twoid][/twoid]

DIRECTFLT wrote:

RE: Flynn actions after the Election

You’re right, this whole scandal is DELICIOUS to watch, better than any burger. Bet there are some seriously sweaty collars in the White House right now.

Oh Karma, you never fail. Let the real fun begin!

DIRECTFLT, DFWRevolution, please PM me your size and address so I can send you an official Nothing Burger shirt. I’ll throw in a pet rock, too. And a tin can for you to shoot at with your semiautomatic in your back yard to relieve your stress about being a fool.

Except I don’t think you feel that way, you both know the guy is an inept fraud, but at the same time you both you have a “take no prisoners” approach. Trump is a means to an end for you guys (which I will never understand). Winning? Yeah, what a joke. You only win by undoing the U.S. Why not move to Venezuela so you can fast forward 40 years from now?

#YoureTheProblemA*sHole

bgm wrote:

jetero wrote:

stratosphere wrote:

Why do you want him to rot in jail cuz he lied to the FBI? Then by all means put him in the slam and don't forget to take Hillary too she also lied to the FBI.

What does any of the above have to do with Hillary? I thought you guys were a "rule of law" bunch and only interested in "justice."

YOU PEOPLE MAKE ME SICK.

They make me sick, too. They’re hypocritical ^##%$* who put their party blindly before country. They’re a disgrace.

Amen sister!

stratosphere wrote:

Ken777 wrote:

Michael Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

on contacts with Russian ambassador.

Former national security adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty Friday to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and court records indicate he was acting under instructions from senior Trump transition officials in his dealings with the diplomat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... f935184f10

This is a WaPo link but most non-fake news media outlets will have the story.

Clinton has lied to the FBI as well but she gets a pass as usual

I was wondering how long until the "but Clinton" defense would pop up - you never disappoint. Maybe when the investigation gets to Jared and Donnie, they and Hillary can book adjacent rooms in the Big House. Would it make you happy if they ALL went down?

Ken777 wrote:

DfwRevolution wrote:

As typically happens with special prosecutors, the alleged crime - Russian election collusion - that initiated Mueller's investigation has proven fruitless but we're left with a process crime (perjury) in order to show some results. Flynn should not have perjured himself and he should be punished for it. Flynn's contact with the Russian ambassador was legal and occurred after the election.

Four indictments so far, including the president's "Inner Circle" is far from fruitless and is simply a start of the Special Prosecutor - especially with Kushner being identified.

We also need to remember that Flynn had many other legal risks, from obstruction of justice to his games with Turkey. His lawyer was pretty good at getting a deal with Mueller when Flynn could have looked at a lot of years if all

Your eagerness to try to make this trivial reminds me of the lost hopes of folks in the Nixon White House. While in public you can maintain that position I think you do need to prepare for something far worse. Looks like Flynn's lawyer also got some protection for Flynn's son as well. Flynn had to have a lot of valuable information for Mueller to have signed off on the deal.

You appear eager for this to bring down the entire Trump administration.

I have no dog in this hunt. I'm simply observing that the indictments so far pale in comparison to the alleged "crime of the century" that prompted this special counsel investigation. We've seen no evidence that the Trump campaign was coordinating with the Russian government to influence the election.

Could more serious charges be pending? It's possible. Could this just be another underwhelming "Fitzmas?" It's equally possible.

WarRI1 wrote:

Martha Steward lied to the FBI, she got two years, lock the greedy liar up after he bags Trump or at least Kushner. He could get five years, reduce it to two.

Martha Stewart lied to the SEC, not that it matters. Don't talk to law enforcement. Ever.

MaverickM11 wrote:

DfwRevolution wrote:

Notice what Hillary Clinton's team did under FBI investigation. Nobody said a word and they all walked.

30 years, tens of millions in investigations, and still bupkis on HRC while even klansman Sessions won't take GOP orders to go after HRC. Barely a year and we've got multiple indictments and Flynn singing like a canary.

The FBI found that Hillary Clinton mishandled 110 emails containing classified information at the time they were sent or received including 36 Secret, 8 Top Secret, and 7 Top Secret/Special Access communications. That isn't bupkis. That's a felony per the plain text of 18 U.S. Code § 793 (f).

I don't fault Hillary Clinton's team for not talking to the FBI. That's just good legal advice. I do fault the Obama administration for turning a blind eye to conduct that obviously merited prosecution. But as usual, Republicans will police and investigate their own. Democrats will circle-the-wagons.

jetero wrote:

C'mon, DFW, self-appointed expert in the history of special prosecutors:

1) How many have there been to begin with?

There's no reason to be snarky because some of us are old enough to remember the 90s. Ken Starr's special investigation culminated in Bill Clinton's impeachment for perjury. Patrick Fitzgerald's special investigation of the Plame Affair ended with Scooter Libby charged with perjury.

jetero wrote:

2) How many of those result in a White House employee (nevermind the National Security Advisor) striking a plea deal?

I can think of two off the top of my head. CIA Director David Patreaus plead guilty to mishandling classified information in order to avoid more serious chargers. Former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger plead guilty to the same charge also to avoid more serious chargers.

jetero wrote:

You're a know-nothing apologist IDIOT, with your head in the sand

That's just a lucky guess.

jetero wrote:

Einsteinboricua, can we top it off with some bacon?

If it doesn't have bacon, it's worthless.

stratosphere wrote:

Clinton has lied to the FBI as well but she gets a pass as usual

The "what about Clinton?" defense only serves to prove that your guys are guilty of something. You've gone from full denial to "ok, but what about her?". Keep it going

It's getting nutty out there.

Fake news rears it's ugly head once again

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ng-n825966

NIKV69 wrote:

It's getting nutty out there.

Fake news rears it's ugly head once again

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ng-n825966

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Flynn report

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-over-serious-error-in-flynn-report.html

ABC News announced Saturday that Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross had been suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched "exclusive" about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

During a live "special report" Friday morning, Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Trump was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump's impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

Friday's fumble was another in a series of black marks for Ross, who has been at ABC News since 1994 after spending nearly two decades at NBC.

DIRECTFLT wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

It's getting nutty out there.

Fake news rears it's ugly head once again

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ng-n825966

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Flynn report

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-over-serious-error-in-flynn-report.html

ABC News announced Saturday that Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross had been suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched "exclusive" about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

During a live "special report" Friday morning, Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Trump was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump's impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

Friday's fumble was another in a series of black marks for Ross, who has been at ABC News since 1994 after spending nearly two decades at NBC.

Trumpanzees calling out fake news is like their sexual predator in chief calling out Matt Lauer.

DfwRevolution wrote:

The FBI found that Hillary Clinton mishandled 110 emails containing classified information at the time they were sent or received including 36 Secret, 8 Top Secret, and 7 Top Secret/Special Access communications. That isn't bupkis. That's a felony per the plain text of 18 U.S. Code § 793 (f).

Alrighty, why isn't the keebler klansman bringing charges then if it's such a slam dunk?

MaverickM11 wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

NIKV69 wrote:

It's getting nutty out there.

Fake news rears it's ugly head once again

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ab ... ng-n825966

ABC News suspends Brian Ross over 'serious error' in Flynn report

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/12/02/abc-news-suspends-brian-ross-over-serious-error-in-flynn-report.html

ABC News announced Saturday that Chief Investigative Correspondent Brian Ross had been suspended for four weeks without pay over a botched "exclusive" about former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

During a live "special report" Friday morning, Ross reported that Flynn would testify that Donald Trump had ordered him to make contact with Russians about foreign policy while Trump was still a candidate. The report raised the specter of Trump's impeachment and sent the stock market plummeting.

Friday's fumble was another in a series of black marks for Ross, who has been at ABC News since 1994 after spending nearly two decades at NBC.

Trumpanzees calling out fake news is like their sexual predator in chief calling out Matt Lauer.

DfwRevolution wrote:

The FBI found that Hillary Clinton mishandled 110 emails containing classified information at the time they were sent or received including 36 Secret, 8 Top Secret, and 7 Top Secret/Special Access communications. That isn't bupkis. That's a felony per the plain text of 18 U.S. Code § 793 (f).

Alrighty, why isn't the keebler klansman bringing charges then if it's such a slam dunk?

https://youtu.be/Yxa34DIZ__w

Trump is making America Great Again

TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS !!!

OA412 wrote:

Slimy people have a way of turning against you when their ass is on the line.

Seen how fast Trump swings his legs when they move the fire closer to his a-cheeks ( or the Chinese answer with a cold stare )?

bgm wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

MaverickM11 wrote:

Trumpanzees calling out fake news is like their sexual predator in chief calling out Matt Lauer.


Alrighty, why isn't the keebler klansman bringing charges then if it's such a slam dunk?

https://youtu.be/Yxa34DIZ__w

Trump is making America Great Again

TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS !!!

No, he is not making America Great Again. He’s making America SHIT again. As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic shit again.

Regarding the blinders you speak of, perhaps it’s YOU who should take your own advice.

You repulse me.

Obviously, your definition of what make America great, and my definition of what makes America great are different.

But I'm not moved by your response.

DIRECTFLT wrote:

bgm wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

https://youtu.be/Yxa34DIZ__w

Trump is making America Great Again

TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS !!!

No, he is not making America Great Again. He’s making America SHIT again. As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic shit again.

Regarding the blinders you speak of, perhaps it’s YOU who should take your own advice.

You repulse me.

Obviously, your definition of what make America great, and my definition of what makes America great are different.

But I'm not moved by your response.

What is your definition?

Dutchy wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

bgm wrote:

No, he is not making America Great Again. He’s making America SHIT again. As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic shit again.

Regarding the blinders you speak of, perhaps it’s YOU who should take your own advice.

You repulse me.

Obviously, your definition of what make America great, and my definition of what makes America great are different.

But I'm not moved by your response.

What is your definition?

He just spelled it out:

bgm wrote:

As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic

Now with 100% more pedophilia! #blessed

MaverickM11 wrote:

Dutchy wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

Obviously, your definition of what make America great, and my definition of what makes America great are different.

But I'm not moved by your response.

What is your definition?

He just spelled it out:

bgm wrote:

As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic

Now with 100% more pedophilia! #blessed

No.... that's what You said. And then you attributed what you said to me. This is not a conversation.

A strong economy for working people, a strong defense against the world of Christian haters and Israel Haters, and the Constitution being interpreted as it was written, and not legislating from the bench.

That's part of what will make America great again.

I'm hopeful that will happen.

If you don't like the Constitution the way it was written, you can leave the country, or try to get it changed with an Amendment. But this judicial legislation, that will someday be overturned, you can stick that you know where!

bgm wrote:

DIRECTFLT wrote:

MaverickM11 wrote:

Trumpanzees calling out fake news is like their sexual predator in chief calling out Matt Lauer.


Alrighty, why isn't the keebler klansman bringing charges then if it's such a slam dunk?

https://youtu.be/Yxa34DIZ__w

Trump is making America Great Again

TAKE OFF YOUR BLINDERS !!!

No, he is not making America Great Again. He’s making America SHIT again. As in, 1950s racist, bigoted, xenophobic shit again.

Regarding the blinders you speak of, perhaps it’s YOU who should take your own advice.

You repulse me.

Nothing wrong with the 1950ies. Booming Economy, healthy morals in the society, little illegal immigration, freedom and security....

DIRECTFLT wrote:

A strong economy for working people, a strong defense against the world of Christian haters and Israel Haters, and the Constitution being interpreted as it was written, and not legislating from the bench.

i would suggest treating those mental issues of Trump supporters would be a lot cheaper in the long run that anything else. After all the tend to believe crazy junkies, like with the paid protesters, and such non sense.

The constitution was written by about the most progressive liberals of their time, i am a pretty sure you don´t want it applied as it was written.

best regards
Thomas