Your comments just show you have no appreciation or recollection of episode 5 or 6. Luke spends a great deal of time in 5 being trained and guided by Yoda. It wasn’t Training at the Jedi temple but it was well thought up and shown on screen and he interaction between the two was amazing.
Hence my comment "the amount of training he received is doubtful as well"
. It is never said how much training he received on Dagobah with Yoda, but you can bet your ass that it never came close to proper Jedi training - it certainly didn't match an apprenticeship, which (according to the first films) lasts most of a young Jedi's formative years, which is why Anakin was almost rejected as he was too old to start.
A lot of canon material suggests that Luke only spent a few weeks with Yoda - and in the start, Yoda was reluctant to train him as well.
In this film, Luke is an old crank that has a bad attitude and never trains her in any way and spends his time with his own demons. But magically Rey, our wonder, just is naturally powerful, right? Sheesh.
Again, you seem to ignore the fact that the Force is not the Jedi or the Sith - they are three, distinct, separate things.
The Jedi train young force users so they join their religion and their way of life - the Sith either do the same, or they turn Jedi.
But you don't need to be a Jedi or a Sith to be a Force user - the Force is a naturally occurring thing, you can get better at it by using it, which can mean training but it can also mean practice. Anakin was using the Force considerably during Episode 1, and he was deemed to be very powerful indeed, so why shouldn't another character pop up that can do the same?
Kylo is the product of the Skywalker blood chain, which apparently only goes back two generations (Kylo -> Leia -> Anakin -> ... well, Anakin was immaculately conceived so ...).
Rey is the product of two unknowns - they could be serious force users, or they could be no bodies just as is said in TLJ. But in the end, she is no different to Anakin in Episode 1.
Also, Lukes situation isn't all that different to any other Jedi that has been featured as a main character in the films - Obi Wan ends up as an old crank in exile, Yoda ends up as an old crank in exile... kinda got a thing going there. Every Jedi in the film series to date ends up either dead, in exile or as a Sith.
Second, I have no problem with moving beyond the Sith-Jedi fights. I DO have a problem with a lame plot, poor character development and no way to really care about these characters. I do have a problem with side plots that mean nothing like the casino planet. Use that time maybe to form a plot, Kathleen Kennedy!
Thats your opinion. Just don't forget that you are watching a movie meant for kids...
Third, it’s poor form to build up this great evil menace and then dispatch him immediately. It your was shown in episode 7 that Snoke engineered Kylo’s turn and he is an immense force user. Then use him in 8. This is one of 8’s weakest point and you just casually almost ignore it. If they bring back Snoke in 9 as a flashback or do a retro introduction, then that is a way to cover their rear ends for a mistake.
Is it poor form? Says who?
I "casually ignore it" because I never got fixated on Snoke.
Finally, your grand conclusion is.... what you say?? Pointless to have my input. Er.... okay there slick. I guess your insight is oh so awesome. Please I have put forth reason and examples and you just don’t like them. THat is a mark of someone who just gave up your argument. Gee thanks.
Not really, I just don't want to discuss something with someone who obviously simply digs their arguments up off of reviews online and jumps on the bandwagon.
There is a lot wrong with this movie - pacing, plot holes etc, but people like you are fixating on stupid things like "they took away my Snoke!" and "I don't like Rey, but I can't really say why as that would paint me as a misogynistic git so I will simply mumble mumble mumble Mary Sue".
How about stuff like this:
1. The speeder battle on Crait - meant nothing at all, Poe sent a load of people out to die and they did nothing to affect the outcome at all
2. Rose saves Fin at the expense of the Rebel base - yup, she says something about love, but in the end she doomed the base and forced the rebels to hastily run for it
3. Poes constant "You need to tell me everything!" attitude, and the fact that we are set up to be in his corner. He's a fighter pilot, who sometimes carries out special missions. He doesn't need to be told everything the rebels know or are intending to do. And yet he basis his entire life around it.
4. The whole Rebel fleet chase thing - oh wow, the Rebels are being chase because they only have one more jumps worth of fuel left, but they magically manage to keep ahead of the Imperial fleet because "they are lighter and thus faster". A Star Destroyer (which the First Order Destroyers are better than) had no problems keeping up with the Rebel cruiser in Episode 4, before boarding and taking it. Heres a few things wrong with that whole plot line:
a. Its quickly established that the tracking mechanism must be on Snokes ship, so instead of sending some of his people on a side mission, why didnt Poe suggest that the ships all jump in different directions - the lead ship can only follow one of them...
b. Why don't the First Order forces jump a bunch of Star Destroyers 30 seconds down the road and cut the Rebel fleet off?
c. When the Rebels escape to Crait, the First Order forces stage a landing with a cool "battering ram cannon". Why don't they simply sit in orbit and bomb the planet for a few weeks? Its well established in canon that TIE bombers can do that. Also, a dozen AT-M6s and a few AT-ATs is all they can muster from half a ship 40km long, when we see more than that in one hangar bay alone?
5. This is a lingering issue across both the films so far - Fin is beat up about his buddy being killed at the start of TFA, but almost *immediately* goes into "kill all Storm Troopers on sight" mode without a single thought about any one of them being in the same position as him.
Come to think of it, throughout all the films we see very little evidence that the Empire or the First Order is actually all that bad - they take action against their enemies, for sure, but we see very little evidence of the oppression or brutality that the Rebels are fighting against. Under the Empire, many words seem to be prospering, and most people are left alone - indeed, we see several examples where the Empire makes deals and keeps them.