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Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:28 pm

Well we know Trump brings a new paradigm to the Presidency of the United States, one thing that has stuck me is his penchant for directly attacking various specific companies. I know industries have been attacked or criticized by past presidents and so have actions (usually without calling out an entity by name) but Trump seems to like to try and make specific companies (and people of course) targets which is different that what I seem to recall from past presidents.

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Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:36 pm

It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.
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Re: Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:36 pm

TWA772LR wrote:
It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.


Has any previous President of the US ever attacked a specific company? Not an industry as a whole, but pick out one company for whatever reason?
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Re: Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:52 pm

Dutchy wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.


Has any previous President of the US ever attacked a specific company? Not an industry as a whole, but pick out one company for whatever reason?

I believe Trump is the first one to do exactly that. The rest have beat around the bush by bashing industries to get it together. There may have been specific mentions during the Teapot Dome Scandal and trust busting campaigns of Teddy Roosevelt but I don't know for sure.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teapot_Dome_scandal
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Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:35 pm

I would bet Trump would proudly continue to give UPS and FedEx those same discounts with USPS for their SurePost and SmartPost services. Continuing to give UPS and FedEx those discounts but denying them to Amazon would be unfairly discriminatory and would probably be against postal regulations.
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Re: Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:59 pm

Dutchy wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.


Has any previous President of the US ever attacked a specific company? Not an industry as a whole, but pick out one company for whatever reason?


I don't know if he mentioned them directly in any public speeches, but Bill Clinton attacked Airbus quite hard. He even went as far as using the NSA and CIA to spy on Airbus and provide the gleaned information to Boeing, who managed to sway a few major orders over. He also kicked off the whole WTO dispute.
 
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Sat Dec 30, 2017 12:40 pm

VSMUT wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.


Has any previous President of the US ever attacked a specific company? Not an industry as a whole, but pick out one company for whatever reason?


I don't know if he mentioned them directly in any public speeches, but Bill Clinton attacked Airbus quite hard. He even went as far as using the NSA and CIA to spy on Airbus and provide the gleaned information to Boeing, who managed to sway a few major orders over. He also kicked off the whole WTO dispute.


Clinton instrumental. I don't think so.
This afaics was fallout from the break down of the Soviet Union
and Reagan being a hired actor for the lobbying industry.

0. US spying on allies and using that commercially was established already.

1. The intelligence services in a way lost part of their business model.

2. With no big opponent around anymore being nice to your allies was no longer deemed necessary.

What previously was handled with some clandestime care now turned more and more to "in your face"
finally culminating in the current MAGA drive that not only tries to level the tables to "steep gradient in US direction"
but is also open about it. "you have no way to retaliate, haha".

No idea where this goes. But it won't be the world domination the US has set their sights on.
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Sat Dec 30, 2017 8:26 pm

Dutchy wrote:
TWA772LR wrote:
It's happened indirectly, starting with Eisenhower warning of the Military Industrial Complex.


Has any previous President of the US ever attacked a specific company? Not an industry as a whole, but pick out one company for whatever reason?

President Kennedy got into a nasty public feud with Rodger Blough, the CEO of US Steal, after he reneged on steal pricing deal.

http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/how ... roll-back/

This Kennedy quote from the link: “My father always told me that all businessmen were sons of bitches, but I never believed it until now.”

The feud was well publicized and forced Blough to back down.
 
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Re: Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:43 pm

WIederling wrote:
. US spying on allies and using that commercially was established already.

You constantly fail in your postings.

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Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:59 am

Main question I have about the companies Trump attacks is, how big of an ownership stake does he hold in their competitors?
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 11:10 am

Tugger wrote:
WIederling wrote:
. US spying on allies and using that commercially was established already.

You constantly fail in your postings.

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obviously:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirtschaftsspionage
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Echelon ( goes back to the 70ties.)
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon#Industriespionage
https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article1 ... arden.html
(much) more:
https://www.google.de/search?num=20&saf ... iespionage

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Re: Presidents attacking companies - how often?

Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:35 pm

VSMUT wrote:
I don't know if he mentioned them directly in any public speeches, but Bill Clinton attacked Airbus quite hard. He even went as far as using the NSA and CIA to spy on Airbus and provide the gleaned information to Boeing, who managed to sway a few major orders over. He also kicked off the whole WTO dispute.


Maybe he knew even then that Airbus was bribing officials to make sales.
 
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Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:05 pm

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Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:19 am

Route66 wrote:
VSMUT wrote:
I don't know if he mentioned them directly in any public speeches, but Bill Clinton attacked Airbus quite hard. He even went as far as using the NSA and CIA to spy on Airbus and provide the gleaned information to Boeing, who managed to sway a few major orders over. He also kicked off the whole WTO dispute.


Maybe he knew even then that Airbus was bribing officials to make sales.


Nah, Clinton was well known for being a protectionist. And it isn't as if US manufacturers didn't resort to bribery themselves. Anyway, most of his beef with Airbus was about the state launch aid, not bribery.

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