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Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:30 pm

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/busi ... media.html is a pretty good summation of the situation.

Mark Zuckerberg, Facebook’s chief executive, said in an interview with The New York Times on Thursday that he wanted the social network to focus on “meaningful interaction.” But his idea of what that phrase means is likely to differ from that of news industry executives and editors — and therein lies a conflict.

Media companies are bracing for the changes coming to Facebook’s News Feed — the column that appears when the site or app is opened — that will favor posts by friends over material from news organizations and other businesses.

I'll let you read the rest.

The question I have, is, can this kind of adjustment really change Facebook? Or is it already so tarnished that people just accept that it is a shithole (see what I did there?) and find other ways to spend their time?

One thing I find is that it's kind of become a time machine that takes me back to the person I was maybe five or so years ago when I joined FB. I see people and activities related to things I did back then, but since I rarely un-friend/un-follow people and newer friends aren't on FB I get stuck in that time machine. It means I find myself spending less and less time on FB.
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Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:32 pm

I think I stopped using facebook since years ago when they changed the post display order from based on send time to based on relevancy/interest/popularity
 
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:40 pm

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I think I stopped using facebook since years ago when they changed the post display order from based on send time to based on relevancy/interest/popularity

Yes, well it seems to be one of the few ways to keep plugged into the extended family these days so I still am on it, but I agree its way of presenting posts is pretty disappointing.

And the tweaks that are being proposed IMHO really won't reverse that much if any.
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:54 pm

I hate how Facebook changed its policy to seeing post from your rinds that you have liked most recently. I literally see the postings of no more than 20 friends, targeted advertising, and political memes, and nothing more.
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:00 am

TWA772LR wrote:
I hate how Facebook changed its policy to seeing post from your rinds that you have liked most recently. I literally see the postings of no more than 20 friends, targeted advertising, and political memes, and nothing more.

I agree with all of the above.

I've largely gotten rid of political memes by unfollowing the people that like to post them, but you have to do a lot of unfollowing to keep things at a tolerable level.
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Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:43 am

c933103 wrote:
I think I stopped using facebook since years ago when they changed the post display order from based on send time to based on relevancy/interest/popularity

:checkmark: The current algorithm is completely screwed up. I want to see content from friends, but any content that they post/create is burred under everything else. Facebook thinks that I will scroll past all this stuff (occasionally liking/commenting on it) to find the content from friends, but mostly I just don't bother.
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:07 am

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Yes, well it seems to be one of the few ways to keep plugged into the extended family these days so I still am on it, but I agree its way of presenting posts is pretty disappointing. And the tweaks that are being proposed IMHO really won't reverse that much if any.


I have been on it for the best part of ten years, and have tried to ditch it from my life previously. Didn't make a so-called new year's resolution to do so this year, but now find myself having mostly given it up in 2018 already, in favour of more app space on my devices, and more time in my life to do other things - as well as the unfriendly design faults definitely. Also, the nature of the posts - rants, bragging, gushing - and no brainer posts which is accompanied by the reinforcing behaviour of it in the comments field - have just become so meh. Didn't say I wasn't guilty of any of it ever LOL - but I am trying to change and move away from participating in the FB way of social behaviours. :thumbsup:

Didn't think I was on there a lot but certainly have found it has freed up time in the day. I didn't mind the corporate news feed, but it was more the volume of the stuff clogging up my news feed. The organisation of the whole site is overdue for change - somehow, or it will die eventually, in favour of other platforms. :tombstone:

I think FB definitely has or had the FOMO factor big drawcard going for it initially, but the way the site is yes, now it outweighs the enjoyment of catching up with people. FB Messenger will do that anyway, in a much more personal setting, without the onslaught. :twocents:

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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Fri Jan 19, 2018 7:56 am

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but you have to do a lot of unfollowing to keep things at a tolerable level.


I guess that depends on your "friends". I de-friended, maybe 4 people, and most of the political junk went away.

To tell you the truth, I want to see posts from people, in chronological order. I hate it when a news item pops up from 2 or 3 days ago, especially the freaking weather.

I do like picking up the news in my newsfeed. I follow CNN, Fox, BBC, and my local news outlets. I dump anything that asks me to join or subscribe.
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:29 am

Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
For starters.... :lol:
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:41 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
For starters.... :lol:

Don't forget RT...
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:13 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
For starters.... :lol:


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Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:28 pm

FB is useless as long as I did not see the conetnet of friends and sites that I liked, but get stupid advertisements instead.
 
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Sun Jan 21, 2018 3:04 pm

I unfollowed (not unfriended) a lot of people on Facebook right before the 2016 election because my newsfeed was filled with political rants and memes. Its good people are interested in politics, but posting your opinions on Facebook is pretty much preaching to the choir, you really aren't helping. If you want to be a force for change, contact the politicians and tell people to do the same.

I mostly follow transportation and hobby related pages, and for the most part its fine but I wish it was in chronological order. Instead I see one post from 3 days ago and below that a post from 5 minutes ago. Notifications are also annoying as sometimes its for something really pointless or its about a post that I literally just saw. I know Facebook does that just to keep you coming back.
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Revelation wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
For starters.... :lol:


Don't forget RT...


Oh, I keep RT in the "In Case Of Emergency -- Break Glass" Box.
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Mon Jan 22, 2018 7:46 pm

bgm wrote:
DIRECTFLT wrote:
Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail
The Washington Times

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
The Washington Post
For starters.... :lol:


You truly are a.net's troll of the year. :rotfl:


I've updated my list because I didn't feel like I offend enough people with the first list. :lol:
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:36 pm

Facebook is absolute swill. It's the slop-trough of the social media world. I mean as bad as Twitter is, at least Twitter has some witty people and good memes. Facebook is chock full of warmed-over Garfield and Minions memes made by Sarah Palin worshippers, and political arguments between the half informed, the uninformed, and the torch-waving zealot.

Unfortunately, Zuckerberg's strategy was effective enough that some people refuse to use anything else whatsoever, not email, not even texting. Last year I realized that if I want to communicate with the people in my life like that - and I considered the cost:benefit ratio and I do - then I must maintain a presence on that pig lagoon of a platform.

So, I have a "deep cover" account, and I use it in a very purposely limited way.

I use a fake name and all fake info with the exception of my current city. I don't post images of myself or allow the same to be tagged. I "friend" few people, limited to a pool of people I know irl or online friends of a year plus. I unfollow many of these people.

I relentlessly hide posts in the News Feed which I don't want to see - do this enough and the algorithm will eventually and grudgingly serve the garbage at the bottom rather than the top. I make plenty of use of "hide all posts by [inane source]" when people share garbage posts from garbage sources. To the best of my ability, I don't participate in "discussions" (more like dung-flinging monkey fights) about news or current events hardly at all, certainly not ones with a bunch of morons already participating. Sometimes I will interact when it's a friend with other thoughtful friends, but even then I am wary.

And last but not least, I do not allow Facebook Inc apps on my phone (I use a wrapper app for Android called Metal) and I use a completely separate browser profile for Facebook on the desktop, because its tracking tentacles exist across more than half the web.

Doing all of this isn't practical for most people, but it works for me to maintain the benefit of having access to the few friends whose primary platform is Facebook, versus the inevitable cost to my privacy and mental health engendered by touching the platform at all.
 
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Tue Jan 23, 2018 6:42 pm

By the way, I found this article interesting:

In everyday life, we tend to have different sides of ourselves that come out in different contexts. For example, the way you are at work is probably different from the way you might be at a bar or at a church or temple.

[...] But on Facebook, all these stages or contexts were mashed together. The result was what internet researchers called context collapse. People were even getting fired when one aspect of their lives was discovered by another (i.e. their boss!).

[...] The key to understanding social media depression lies in the social norm that has emerged around how we manage Facebook’s context collapse in a way that is acceptable in all contexts. That social norm is being your perfect self. And the consequence of that is we are all performing our perfect selves, thus all making each other feel depressed and inadequate.


https://particle.scitech.org.au/tech/se ... epression/

Facebook is actively user-hostile, and it's due to the revenue model. It is bad for people's health. Study after study after study replicates these findings.

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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Tue Jan 23, 2018 7:14 pm

DIRECTFLT wrote:
Facebook to ask users to rank news publishers by trustworthiness

https://www.indiatoday.in/technology/ne ... 2018-01-20

Great !! I know who'll I'll mark as Trustworthy:
InfoWars
Drudge Report
Brietbart News
The Daily Mail

And I'll Mark as Untrustworthy:
CNN
NBC
MSNBC
CBS
ABC
BBC
PBS
The Vatican
For starters.... :lol:


Because you think people at Facebook are too stupid to consider what you liked and shared when they rank the value of your "trustwortys"?

Cute...

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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:20 am

I think one of the catalyst things for me recently too to make me say I'm pretty much done here, was another post from a 'friend' saying, I got hacked into, if you get x it is not from me.' :taekwondo: I did the fake name thing a while back and I don't leave anything up on my FB wall indefinitely. This makes me really boring LOL. :optimist:

I know FB have tried to make users more aware of their online security and privacy in recent years and added features to this effect. As said, I have been using the platform for ten. Some people just go way out there and overshare way too much though, it is mind-boggling why they do this. Setting personal family things to Public is a real bugbear of mine on the site. :twocents:

Replying to a public feed news story can be very dicey too, when you get a nasty email from some unknown person who disagrees with your view on x. It's just not worth it. Don't know about Twitter, never been on it and don't intend to. Then there is the Blocked Users List, which for me sits at about a dozen, due to personal harassment or obscene or offensive postings.

Wonder how history will judge these social media sites' legacy when they finally disappear. I say this mainly in the context of being bad for people's mental health and the amount of time users spend 'liking' and scrolling, 'liking'..

Interestingly, YouTube seems to be working really well for me at this time, and at least for me, I don't have the issues with using it as I do with FB.

treetreeseven, enjoyed reading your post, and can really resonate with a lot of what you say. :thumbsup:
 
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Re: Changes in Facebook News Feed

Wed Jan 24, 2018 9:44 pm

VapourTrails wrote:
Wonder how history will judge these social media sites' legacy when they finally disappear. I say this mainly in the context of being bad for people's mental health and the amount of time users spend 'liking' and scrolling, 'liking'..

Yes, that's a meaty topic.

Without going too far off in the weeds, I'll say that I've heard some reporting talking about how social media is forcing some quite young people to have anxiety over their social network "brand". There's always been social pressure to try to be one of the "cool kids" and now that requires not just the right clothes and right looks and the right interactions in the real world, but it also requires a kid to produce an engaging social media presence across all the various social media platforms.

You might think it's easy to ignore and move on with life, but then you see the example of our Tweeter In Chief and it's hard to say it doesn't matter.
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