scbriml wrote:How's that swap-draining going?
VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
dfwjim1 wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
Sort of like when JFK appointed his brother to be the attorney general of the United States?
scbriml wrote:How's that swap-draining going?
DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
einsteinboricua wrote:VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
No...but let me ask you this: if you're the manager of a team and your son and someone else applied to a position (for which they both have excellent credentials), who will you pick? Pick your son and that's nepotism no matter how you look at it...it's a conflict of interest. Pick the other guy and you'll be accused of being harsh.
If Trump wants his personal pilot in charge of the FAA, that's totally fine. However, because he personally knows the pilot there's a conflict of interest, especially if there are possibly other pilots with more experience or stellar qualifications. He should allow a committee to select the qualified candidates and then he should vet them. Give the process some transparency.
The optics will not be forgiving and all the public will see is a guy who landed a job because he knows the president. In a country that complains about how merit should be what earns you a spot in college and not being of a particular race or being in with the review committee, it seems like yet another double standard for many conservatives.
But then again: IOKIYAR.
BravoOne wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
Wow you are privy to this guys flying record?? What a bunch of horseshit. You gotta love the net where you can lie all you want and there is no one to challenge you?
DLFREEBIRD wrote:BravoOne wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
Wow you are privy to this guys flying record?? What a bunch of horseshit. You gotta love the net where you can lie all you want and there is no one to challenge you?
are you saying you don't trust NTSB ? or were you to lazy to look up his record yourself.
https://arffwg.org/news/ntsb-cites-pilo ... nce-plane/
"Dunkin has served as Trump's personal pilot since 1989, according to a Smithsonian Channel documentary about private planes." http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/09/news/co ... index.html
The Captain
The captain, age 58, held an airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate with a rating for airplane single- and multiengine land with commercial privileges, with type ratings on the Boeing 737, DC-10, DC-8, and MD-11, Bombardier CL-65, BAE Systems HS-114, and Lockheed Martin L188. He also held a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) first-class medical certificate dated July 20, 2016, with a limitation for glasses or corrective lenses for near and intermediate vision. He was hired by Eastern Air Lines in June 2015 as a first officer and upgraded to captain in February 2016, when he received captain leadership training. At the time of the incident, he was based in Miami, Florida.
Before joining Eastern Air Lines, the captain was a pilot at Centurion Cargo, where he was hired as a first officer on the DC-10 in 2005 and subsequently upgraded to captain on the MD11 in 2010. According to Eastern Airlines personnel records, the captain had 20,638 hours of flight experience, 14,767 hours pilot-in-command (PIC) time, with 3,000 hours on 737s and 202 hours as PIC on 737s. He flew 75 hours, 28 hours, and 11 hours during the 90-, 30-, and 7-day periods, respectively, preceding the incident. He also reported flying 1.5 hours during the 24-hour period before the incident. His most recent 737 proficiency check occurred March 16, 2016. A review of FAA records found no prior accident, incident, or enforcement actions.
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... l&IType=IA
Tugger wrote:dfwjim1 wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:this is typical of Trump, he's been giving jobs to his family and friends who are no where near qualified to do the job. Nobody in his base care's. Which only shows me that Trump followers love to drink the Trump branded kool-aid.
btw those wanting a pilot, to run the F.A.A. I don't have a problem with that, except this pilot has a poor flying record. Which says a lot about Trump judgement.
Sort of like when JFK appointed his brother to be the attorney general of the United States?
Sure, like that if you wish.
Do you support that?
Tugg
TheFlyingDisk wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:BravoOne wrote:
Wow you are privy to this guys flying record?? What a bunch of horseshit. You gotta love the net where you can lie all you want and there is no one to challenge you?
are you saying you don't trust NTSB ? or were you to lazy to look up his record yourself.
https://arffwg.org/news/ntsb-cites-pilo ... nce-plane/
To be fair, if you read the NTSB report it does say that Pence's plane was piloted by an Eastern-employed pilot. Dunkin was not at the controls. I based this on the following"Dunkin has served as Trump's personal pilot since 1989, according to a Smithsonian Channel documentary about private planes." http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/09/news/co ... index.html
andThe Captain
The captain, age 58, held an airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate with a rating for airplane single- and multiengine land with commercial privileges, with type ratings on the Boeing 737, DC-10, DC-8, and MD-11, Bombardier CL-65, BAE Systems HS-114, and Lockheed Martin L188. He also held a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) first-class medical certificate dated July 20, 2016, with a limitation for glasses or corrective lenses for near and intermediate vision. He was hired by Eastern Air Lines in June 2015 as a first officer and upgraded to captain in February 2016, when he received captain leadership training. At the time of the incident, he was based in Miami, Florida.
Before joining Eastern Air Lines, the captain was a pilot at Centurion Cargo, where he was hired as a first officer on the DC-10 in 2005 and subsequently upgraded to captain on the MD11 in 2010. According to Eastern Airlines personnel records, the captain had 20,638 hours of flight experience, 14,767 hours pilot-in-command (PIC) time, with 3,000 hours on 737s and 202 hours as PIC on 737s. He flew 75 hours, 28 hours, and 11 hours during the 90-, 30-, and 7-day periods, respectively, preceding the incident. He also reported flying 1.5 hours during the 24-hour period before the incident. His most recent 737 proficiency check occurred March 16, 2016. A review of FAA records found no prior accident, incident, or enforcement actions.
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... l&IType=IA
*I can't believe I'm defending a Trump associate...
seb146 wrote:Credit where credit is due: At least this guy knows about flying. More than Rick Perry knows about energy or Sonny Perdue knows about agriculture or Ben Carson knows about Housing and Urban Development...
But, this guy's main claim to fame is he is the pilot for tRump. You just have to know someone to get a job in the current administration. Who was that guy who had to pull his nomination because too many Senators asked about his qualifications?
DLFREEBIRD wrote:TheFlyingDisk wrote:DLFREEBIRD wrote:
are you saying you don't trust NTSB ? or were you to lazy to look up his record yourself.
https://arffwg.org/news/ntsb-cites-pilo ... nce-plane/
To be fair, if you read the NTSB report it does say that Pence's plane was piloted by an Eastern-employed pilot. Dunkin was not at the controls. I based this on the following"Dunkin has served as Trump's personal pilot since 1989, according to a Smithsonian Channel documentary about private planes." http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/09/news/co ... index.html
andThe Captain
The captain, age 58, held an airline transport pilot (ATP) certificate with a rating for airplane single- and multiengine land with commercial privileges, with type ratings on the Boeing 737, DC-10, DC-8, and MD-11, Bombardier CL-65, BAE Systems HS-114, and Lockheed Martin L188. He also held a Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) first-class medical certificate dated July 20, 2016, with a limitation for glasses or corrective lenses for near and intermediate vision. He was hired by Eastern Air Lines in June 2015 as a first officer and upgraded to captain in February 2016, when he received captain leadership training. At the time of the incident, he was based in Miami, Florida.
Before joining Eastern Air Lines, the captain was a pilot at Centurion Cargo, where he was hired as a first officer on the DC-10 in 2005 and subsequently upgraded to captain on the MD11 in 2010. According to Eastern Airlines personnel records, the captain had 20,638 hours of flight experience, 14,767 hours pilot-in-command (PIC) time, with 3,000 hours on 737s and 202 hours as PIC on 737s. He flew 75 hours, 28 hours, and 11 hours during the 90-, 30-, and 7-day periods, respectively, preceding the incident. He also reported flying 1.5 hours during the 24-hour period before the incident. His most recent 737 proficiency check occurred March 16, 2016. A review of FAA records found no prior accident, incident, or enforcement actions.
https://app.ntsb.gov/pdfgenerator/Repor ... l&IType=IA
*I can't believe I'm defending a Trump associate...
umm https://www.politicususa.com/2018/02/26 ... w-faa.html
einsteinboricua wrote:No...but let me ask you this: if you're the manager of a team and your son and someone else applied to a position (for which they both have excellent credentials), who will you pick? Pick your son and that's nepotism no matter how you look at it...it's a conflict of interest. Pick the other guy and you'll be accused of being harsh.
If Trump wants his personal pilot in charge of the FAA, that's totally fine. However, because he personally knows the pilot there's a conflict of interest, especially if there are possibly other pilots with more experience or stellar qualifications. He should allow a committee to select the qualified candidates and then he should vet them. Give the process some transparency.
The optics will not be forgiving and all the public will see is a guy who landed a job because he knows the president. In a country that complains about how merit should be what earns you a spot in college and not being of a particular race or being in with the review committee, it seems like yet another double standard for many conservatives.
But then again: IOKIYAR.
VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
Mir wrote:VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
Someone with public policy experience would have been a better choice. We don't have to choose between two really crappy options. There's a whole lot of people in government who have been working their way up through the ranks, building their experience and their skillset and their resumes, and he could pick from one of those rather than going the nepotism route and picking someone who has barely any qualifications for the job.
Mir wrote:VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
Someone with public policy experience would have been a better choice.
DIRECTFLT wrote:Trump's pilot being named the FAA Director can't be any worse than the Obama "friends" who were "awarded" the contract to build the original Healthcare.gov website for the ACA (Affordable Care Act).
DIRECTFLT wrote:If the FAA is run as well as the original Heathcare.gov website, Trump won't be able to brag about now crashes on his watch.Trump's pilot being named the FAA Director can't be any worse than the Obama "friends" who were "awarded" the contract to build the original Healthcare.gov website for the ACA (Affordable Care Act).
VSMUT wrote:Mir wrote:VSMUT wrote:You can say a lot about Trump, but putting a pilot in charge of the FAA probably isn't the worst choice in history. I mean, would an investment banker have been a better choice?
Someone with public policy experience would have been a better choice.
I honestly doubt that.
Back when Justin Trudeau appointed his cabinet, he was applauded for selecting people with relevant real-world experience, not some random academic with a nice CV and no real-life experience with the subject that he is working with.
Mir wrote:We don't have to choose between two really crappy options. There's a whole lot of people in government who have been working their way up through the ranks, building their experience and their skillset and their resumes, and he could pick from one of those rather than going the nepotism route and picking someone who has barely any qualifications for the job.
MaverickM11 wrote:Maybe he can fix the Middle East too since Jared seems to be on the outs and has the security clearance level of Stormi Daniels