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Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:23 am

SRI LANKA

- Six blasts in churches and high-end hotels

- Over 20 people killed and 160 wounded

- Churches: Kochikade, St Sebastian and Batticaloa

- Hotels: Shangri La, Cinnamon Grand and Kingsbury

https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/amp.the ... o-1.851633

Sri Lanka was rocked by multiple explosions on Sunday, including three blasts on church services celebrating Easter.

Three of Colombo's high-end hotels were also targeted in quick succession, police and security services said.

Hospital sources said at least 20 people have been killed the in six blasts across the city and hundreds more taken to hospital including foreign tourists.

One of the explosions was a St Anthony's Church in Kochchikade of the capital, Colombo. Another church in Katuwapitiya, Katana was also hit.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:54 am

Now 42 dead, 300+ injured.

Sad day for Sri Lanka.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:05 am

Currently in Colombo because I was spending Sinhala and Tamil New Year with family. The death toll is now being reported around 100 according to local news quoting the police. Security is being tightened at train stations, CMB and all buses.

It feels like a bad flashback of how things were during the civil war. I hope the country is not headed towards another dark period again.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:48 am

BBC reporting death toll is now 137 from at least six explosions.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:59 am

Though the story linked in the original post said no-one had claimed responsibility for the bombings yet, would anyone familiar with Sri Lanka care to speculate on who the culprit(s) might be and what their issue could be? I have zero knowledge of Sri Lankan politics, so I'm curious.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:00 am

I work with quite a few Sri Lankans, There will be a sombre mood in the office on Tuesday.

This will proably be the end of tourism as well, for a while at least. Sri Lanka was starting to become popular with Australians as a Bali\Thailand alternative.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:01 am

Sad, indeed. Hopefully, this will not escalate.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:19 am

150 dead, including 40 foreigners.

The circle of religious terrorism continues.

The belief of many that my god is the only true god and everyone else is worthless is pathetic.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:29 am

TSS wrote:
Though the story linked in the original post said no-one had claimed responsibility for the bombings yet, would anyone familiar with Sri Lanka care to speculate on who the culprit(s) might be and what their issue could be? I have zero knowledge of Sri Lankan politics, so I'm curious.


From what I can tell no one has a clue. The civil war violence there was ethnic. This seems to be targeting Christians regardless of their ethnicity, this appears to be a new phenomenon but I read somewhere there has been recent issues with Buddhist groups harassing christians.

... The world is in a bad place when even buddhists find a way to twist their religion to justify violence against others.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 8:51 am

Report are coming in of another explosion in Dehiwala with atleast two people confirmed dead so far.

Most of Colombo has been shut down, all Easter masses in the city cancelled and schools which were scheduled to reopen tomorrow also to be closed for the next two days. Authorities are urging people to remain at home and avoid public gatherings.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:21 am

Come to think of it, considering not just churches but luxury hotels frequented by foreigners were targeted, and assuming the terrorists are domestic, the primary motive was probably more nationalistic than religious.

Christianity in Sri Lanka is a relic of European colonialism after all...

Edit: AFP reports an undisclosed foreign intelligence agency had warned Sri Lankan officials that "National Thowheeth Jama'ath" was plotting suicide attacks against churches.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:22 am

2 more explosions in an 8th location, Dematagoda now reported and has killed 3 police officers. Details are sketchy but a shootout with the police has occurred in the same area during a search operation with 3 suspects killed and 4 arrested.

The death toll has now reached more than 190 with 500+ people injured and many in critical condition. A nationwide curfew has been imposed.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:03 pm

What a sad day. I live in Shangri La hotel last June and is it affected by the bomb? I heard it too it is affected
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 12:44 pm

Once again, terrorists go for 'soft' targets and murder too many innocents, over religion, nationalism or a bad mix of both. That this happened on what is the holiest day of the Christian calendar is extremely offensive and cruel. Christians are just under 8% of the population in Sri Lanka,, mainly from Colonialism.
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A few weeks ago mad men killed too many at 2 mosques in Christchurch, NZ. Last year in the USA, we had the terror attack at a Jewish Temple near Pittsburgh, PA and last weekend the firebombing of 3 churches of mainly African-American worshipers in Mississippi. Seems like too many are taking violence to any faith group they disagree with.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:26 pm

https://www.newsfirst.lk/2019/04/21/exp ... d-to-know/

This is a good summary of what is known so far. It corrects some of what I got wrong up thread and has also provided updated casualty numbers.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:37 pm

I was in Sri Lanka last year, and I really feel for the people affected. It is a beautiful country full of generous people. Has anyone claimed responsibility?
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 7:57 am

Another bomb found near CMB

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... t-11466120

Improvised bomb made safe near Colombo airport: Police


European carriers flying to CMB are Aeroflot, Azur Air, Edelweiss Air, KLM, TUI and UIA. LOT is supposed to start this coming winter. Could some of them chop their routes now?
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:48 am

The death toll is 290 as of Monday. The government took the extraordinary act of suspending the operations of all 'social media' sites to prevent rumors from fomenting more trouble. Schools and most businesses are closed. It is very sad we now see how another country ruined by the acts of few jerks.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:36 am

SCQ83 wrote:
Another bomb found near CMB

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/as ... t-11466120

Improvised bomb made safe near Colombo airport: Police


European carriers flying to CMB are Aeroflot, Azur Air, Edelweiss Air, KLM, TUI and UIA. LOT is supposed to start this coming winter. Could some of them chop their routes now?


If this is a single attack and not the beginning of a series of attacks, I don't think any routes will be chopped. Freak terrorist attacks can happen anywhere these days, even in Europe and the US.

It would be interesting to see how airlines react to this regarding security policies. These are the types of hotel frequented by airline staff, and at least 2 of the bombers targeted the breakfast buffets. Could we ultimately be asked to stay in the room and order room service?
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 10:43 am

And it comes as absolutely no surprise to anyone with even a quarter of a brain that Islampfascists were behind the terror attacks against Christians during Easter celebrations.

Sri Lanka explosions: Government says local Islamist group behind blasts, to declare emergency from midnight

There was no claim of responsibility, but the government believes a local Islamist extremist group called the National Thowheeth Jama’ath (NTJ) was behind the attacks, government spokesman Rajitha Senaratne said on Monday.

Senaratne, who is also a Cabinet minister, added that the government was investigating whether the group had “international support”.

Documents seen by AFP show Sri Lanka’s police chief issued a warning on April 11, saying that a “foreign intelligence agency” had reported NTJ was planning attacks on churches and the Indian high commission.

Not much is known about the NTJ, a radical Muslim group that has been linked to the vandalising of Buddhist statues.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/sri-lanka-explosions-government-orders-fresh-night-curfew-in-colombo
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 1:47 pm

Another IED was discovered near the St Anthony’s Church in Kochchikade today evening. It was detonated in a control explosion by the STF. There have been no casualties reported.

http://www.adaderana.lk/news/54544/cont ... ade-church
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:40 pm

Ya’ll seem more triggered over language used than the actual attacks. The term was used because it was a specific holiday - Easter, duh. There have been calls of condemnation from all over the globe, the response is hardly ‘nothing’ unless one chooses to see that:

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/ ... demnation/

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019 ... 38039.html

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/asia/world ... 51g0t.html
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:56 pm

Aaron747 wrote:
Ya’ll seem more triggered over language used than the actual attacks. The term was used because it was a specific holiday - Easter, duh. There have been calls of condemnation from all over the globe, the response is hardly ‘nothing’ unless one chooses to see that:

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/ ... demnation/

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019 ... 38039.html

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/asia/world ... 51g0t.html


I was writing a response, but this one is better so I’ll just add one thing. “Easter worshippers” points out that the attacks were timed to occur on the most important holiday of the Christian calendar and not any average Sunday.
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:08 am

Regarding people moaning about not enough Muslims apologizing for this (seriously, are all Muslims expected to apologies for it?), here is the guy who is actually related to the Prophet Muhammad condemning the attacks:

His Majesty King Abdullah II, in a cable to President of Sri Lanka Maithripala Sirisena, condemns the terrorist attacks against churches and hotels in #Colombo, which killed many innocent people and injured others #Jordan

https://twitter.com/RHCJO/status/1119977367995408385

Prime Minister of Pakistan condemning it:

Strongly condemn the horrific terrorist attack in Sri Lanka on Easter Sunday resulting in precious lives lost & hundreds injured. My profound condolences go to our Sri Lankan brethren. Pakistan stands in complete solidarity with Sri Lanka in their hour of grief.

https://twitter.com/ImranKhanPTI/status ... 1308718081

President of Indonesia:

Joko Widodo @jokowi Apr 22
Translated:

Indonesia condemned the bomb attack hard in some places in Sri Lanka, today.

On behalf of all the people of Indonesia, I also convey my deep condolences to the Government of Sri Lanka and all the families of the victims. May the victims that were injured could recover soon.

https://twitter.com/jokowi/status/1119972549637488640

None of this was very hard to find at all.

Aaron747 wrote:
Ya’ll seem more triggered over language used than the actual attacks. The term was used because it was a specific holiday - Easter, duh. There have been calls of condemnation from all over the globe, the response is hardly ‘nothing’ unless one chooses to see that:

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/ ... demnation/

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019 ... 38039.html

https://amp.smh.com.au/world/asia/world ... 51g0t.html


On one hand, I fully agree that "christian" has been made to be a dirty word these days. On the other hand, the people moaning about the "Easter worshippers" terminology are just opportunistic trying to use the situation to make themselves victims. Obama, whether you like him or not, is an honorable, churchgoing Christian man. That people would use him as a symbol of an anti-Christian world, when the President they love cheats on his wife with pornstars, doesn't go to church and boasts about grabbing people by the pussy, says far more about them than it does about anyone else.

BTW Trump tweeted that 138 million had been killed - was up for half an hour before it was deleted. If there's any tweets to complain about....

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Tue Apr 23, 2019 10:58 am

New reports of comments by Sri Lanka officials are saying the attacks were 'revenge' for the Christchurch, NZ mosque attacks, there were at least 7 people including anti-government and ISIS inspired persons were directly involved in carrying and setting the bombs off. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/0 ... /23715775/
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:41 pm

For the record, to all the people who are still squabbling over their *own* very political BS over their feelings on Islam, this isn't over yet.

There's still terrorists on the run, likely with more explosives. They are still finding and defusing bombs. Sri Lanka is not out of the woods until they are all captured and all of the bombs are safely found and safely disposed of.

Also in news IS has in opportunistic fashion claimed responsibility. It is now known/suspected that a few of those involved had traveled to Syria and likely fought for them, in reality they are their own group and IS could realistically only claim strong ties and/or training here. Also I'm curious about the Syrian national they arrested, he could have been an actual IS terrorist. He is also the only foreign national they have arrested so far, to my knowledge.

And once again, to everyone squabbling about religion, there's no doubt the bad guys here are terrorists, and not all of the victims were christians. In fact many were not. Those murdered in the hotels were a variety of religions, including muslim.

The terrorists don't care who they are killing- and in extremist Sunni Islamic ideology the Muslims who don't practice the religion in their own extreme interpretation are just as bad and deserving of death as the non-believers.

Support the harshest possible punishment for terrorists. Support the victims. And if you know any Sri Lankans abroad who have family or friends who have died, give them your support. Hell, I've reached out to distraught Sri Lankan strangers online to tell them that our hearts to out to them here in the US. The fact that Sri Lanka is a country developed enough for people to be in possession of some technology, with many speaking English as a second language thanks to British colonialism, and their having a large diaspora abroad has made it easy for them to communicate their pain to the rest of the world and we should listen and help.
 
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Tue Apr 23, 2019 11:51 pm

Keep the thread on topic or it will be locked. This isn't a debate over religion, this is a discussion on the tragic events in Sri Lanka. Stick to discussing that topic.

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Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:11 am

So piecing together information coming out of Sri Lanka:

There's a lot of reporting on two wealthy well connected brothers. These brothers were suicide bombers in the attacks. They likely provided much of the funding needed for the attacks.

I had previously read about Muslim leaders kicking these brothers out of their community for their extremist views back in 2015- and they had tried warning the government about them multiple times. I had read the brothers had also been reported to the government for having traveled to Syria and back.

The terrorist group involved in the attacks was only previously known for defacing Buddhist statues at the very end of December last year. After an investigation, capturing one of the offenders in the act, and information given from the local Muslim community a raid related to the statue defacing was conducted - 100 Kg of explosives were found and 4 people were arrested. One of these brothers was among them, and was later *released* after what is being reported as "political pressure"

In March 2019 a Muslim government official who had helped in that investigation was assassinated by 2 men. People are saying these two men were those same brothers (I don't know what proof there is of this, but it sounds extremely plausible considering what they ended up doing) http://www.sundaytimes.lk/190310/news/s ... 40075.html

If all of this information is true (and you never really know where the line is between rumors and reporting in South Asia), the Sri Lankan government failed beyond just simply not taking intelligence warnings seriously, they were actually repeatedly warned about these people from within, had already stumbled upon their bomb making operation, arrested and released one of them, and allowed them to assassinate someone who had aided in the investigation.

That is an absolutely MASSIVE failure. I hope Sri Lankans can figure out the truth in which politicians failed them and don't get stuck in a political finger pointing game where they never truly know who is guilty.

More general update:

359 Dead
60 Arrested
9 suicide bombers

They just found another bomb in a restaurant. They had also done a controlled explosion on a suspicious motorbike- it seemed it was a false alarm but frightened people nonetheless due to the small explosion created by the bomb squad itself.
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:05 pm

Jouhou wrote:
More general update:

359 Dead
60 Arrested
9 suicide bombers


60 arrests in less than 3 days after the attack is quite amazing on its own. I acknowledge that Sri Lanka may have a different justice system, but still amazing they can identify that many people so quickly.
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 2:17 pm

LittleFokker wrote:
Jouhou wrote:
More general update:

359 Dead
60 Arrested
9 suicide bombers


60 arrests in less than 3 days after the attack is quite amazing on its own. I acknowledge that Sri Lanka may have a different justice system, but still amazing they can identify that many people so quickly.


It seems the credible reports from before the attacks have led to a swift roundup.


There is no understating this tragedy, and the lack of effort surrounding the available intel prior to the attacks will be deeply scrutinized. Sri Lanka is a complex country with many religious and ethnic groups in a small area.
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Wed Apr 24, 2019 3:36 pm

Reuters is also reporting on the "well-to-do" nature of the perpetrators. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-sri- ... SKCN1S00G2

I really hope there is a deep dive into why the warnings weren't heeded and (along with the other issues of the two brothers) basically swept under the rug. The problem with corruption in politics.
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:37 am

CMB has temporarily suspended operations due to a suspicious vehicle in the car park.

https://www.newsfirst.lk/2019/04/25/roa ... s-vehicle/

edited to add: arrivals are progressing as normal. The link I posted is being updated as the situation develops.

edit 2: Operations returned to normal.
 
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Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:06 am

There's a memo by the authorities circulating on twitter right now that allegedly says there are attacks planned on mosques housing the tombs of saints during their Friday prayers. I can't even confirm what the document says though, I can't read Sinhala. Between that and the continued security related disruptions, people aren't just frightened, it seems there are still some very dangerous people who haven't been caught yet.

Arrests are now up to 76. Emergency powers now granted to security forces will probably keep them arresting people at a brisk pace, although it may result in innocent people being arrested as terrorists.

*tangent* Google translate works surprisingly well on Tamil and really poorly on Sinhala. Also, the Red Mosque in Colombo (allegedly a target) Is one of the coolest looking buildings I've ever seen in pictures https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/jam ... red-mosque
 
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Re: Sri Lanka Terrorism

Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:07 am

Jouhou wrote:
There's a memo by the authorities circulating on twitter right now that allegedly says there are attacks planned on mosques housing the tombs of saints during their Friday prayers. I can't even confirm what the document says though, I can't read Sinhala.


I didn't have time for a word to word translation but you got it right. Accordingly a request has been made to cancel Friday prayers at mosques.

More arrest overnight with the police also releasing a list of suspects they are still looking for. What is quite disconcerting is the number of explosives and other weapons that have been found/still being found and how many of these nutjobs are actually involved.

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