"their B767 fleet IS ageing, if you believe it or not. The oldest examples will reach 13 years soon, so don't tell me the planes are young. And what big differences do they show compared to B767s from 1982? More range. And?
The A330 is a completely new design, having only the fuselage width in common with the A300."
I guess we have different definitions of the term "ageing". So I guess a few of LH's A340s are close to "ageing" status in your terms. What big differences? Upgrades in systems, advancements in engines and range, payload etc. And more recently, the introduction of the new interior and cockpit, new landing gear, brakes, etc thanks to the 777 and 764ER. A330 a completely new design? I think you have been looking at Airbus.com too long
"And forget the crap about the similar range...the B763 has serious problems on routes where the A332 can fly easily and without problems. Take BKK-VIE by Lauda, they often have to stop somewhere when winds blow, or STR-ATL by Delta. They have to stop several times a month to take more fuel...and what about SK and their flight to HKG? They stopped them because they couldn't operate them economically with their B763. That's logic if you always have to leave behind tonnes of cargo to make sure you can fly nonstop...oh, no they want to resume HKG, guess why?
Yes, on the paper there's not much difference, but in reality it is a difference. The A332 can take more pax and more cargo on longer routes, so I don't need thousands of numbers to conclude it can be operated more economically."
Wow Udo, cool down there for a second. I know you want everyone to "forget" the truth
. Tell me, what magical powers does the A332 have that can make it fly these routes "with no problem". Again here are the figures:
The two aircraft have very close range, so please don't try to saw otherwise. Yes, I agree with you that airlines operating in a market where cargo is a very important revenue, the A330 would be best, and even better, the 777. But we are talking about BA here, and the 767 suites them well. Both aircraft suffer from payload restrictions, and both were not designed for ultra-long range flights. Hmm, what about the Airtours A332 flight that operates from Scandinavia to Phuket, with a stop in Bahrain. So please, don't feed us BS. Also, why don't you tell us why AC is still ordering 763s while they have more A330 on order?
"The B764 is a low seller because it cannot match the A332's longhaul figures. I'm already excited what CO will do on flights out of IAH to Europe in the future. They will use the B762 and the B777 but not the B764 that much..."
The 767-400ER was never planned to be a big seller, but to further make the 767 line more attractive, especially when current 767 operators requested a variant like it. About IAH, I did not read anyhting about 762 or 777 to Europe. It only stated the 764 was to be operating a route to CDG, I believe it is.
"Don't praise the B762's range any longer, that aircraft is out of date and nobody orders it any more except CO which has a Boeing exclusive contract (such as Delta).
It has a good range but is much smaller, even less pax and less cargo than the B763, so much for economics compared to the A332."
Just how is the 767-200ER outdated? The reason why the 762 has attracted so few orders in the past is because the markey has changed. The 762 has the right to be praised with it's 6,615nm range. Just why are you so freakin' negative? And how could you even attempt to compare the A332 and the 762ER together? They are two very
different aircraft designed for different markets. And I don't think the "Exclusive Contracts" exist anymore, thanks to our friendly neighbors, the EU. Tell me, is the A340-200 outdated because nobody orders it?
"Why do you praise the 2-3-2 configuration? I don't see an advantage over the 2-4-2 configuration, as you have only ONE pax between you and the aisle on both."
Why do I praise it? Because it makes the cabin feel alot less crowded, and if I happen to get a seat in the center section, thats one less person who has to get up for the middle guy. And there is only one middle guy.
"Let's wait some two or three more years, then the BA B767s will be even older than now. BA will replace them and the only option I see is the A332.
By the way, it's also a question of offering new First and Business classes. They just fit better into an A330 body than into the B767."
Yes, let's wait, just as we will wait to see EI and LH's decision to replace their A330s and A340s
. Is that really the only option you see. I happen to see more than that. They could order the A332, or they could order any of the following: 753, 763, or 764.
Why are you one of the most narrow-minded, arrogant users on this board?