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Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Fri Aug 10, 2001 2:47 am


Hi everybody,

I just discovered accidentally this piece of information on the EADS website: Exactly today the very first A318´s final assembly started at Hamburg. I thought one or two of you might be interested to hear that.

Daniel Smile
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Fri Aug 10, 2001 2:51 am

Cool!!!!! Can't wait to see the final product. It will be a great a/c for the long thin trans can routes.
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Fri Aug 10, 2001 2:52 am

Cool! Although, I thought I'd read somewhere that the A318 project was scrapped....I Think it was on the plane spec database on..well.. HERE!!

Chris
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Fri Aug 10, 2001 11:48 pm

Great news, cant wait to see it.
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Sat Aug 11, 2001 12:06 am

"L'il Stubby"'s going to come out somewhat late to market though, even though essentially it's just a 319 "minus five (fuselage) frames". Let's see, certification maybe early 2003? (by which time the CRJ900 supposed to be in service, as well as maybe the ERJ170 and Dornier728JET)
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Sat Aug 11, 2001 12:13 am

I can't wait to see that little fat baby!
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Sat Aug 11, 2001 3:01 am

Are there already some pictures available on the net?
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 ... Picture

Sat Aug 11, 2001 7:49 am

Nice to hear that A318 entered the final assembly line.
And here comes a picture:


Regards,
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More Pics

Sat Aug 11, 2001 7:54 am

All pictures (incl. the first provided before) by Airbus.com



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Mark_D

Sat Aug 11, 2001 8:49 am

Mark_D: Let's see, certification maybe early 2003?

Wouldn´t they get there faster for a mere derivative?
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Sun Aug 12, 2001 11:15 pm

Entry into service end 2002, so certification will be way before early 2003.

Airbus.com: "136 firm orders have already been placed for the A318. The first flight is scheduled for January 2002, with entry into service at the end of 2002. "

Plus, there already is a small A320 derivative, the A319. Arn't their regualtions on how many derivatives are allowed on one particular airframe without new certification?

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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Sun Aug 12, 2001 11:43 pm

Arn't their regualtions on how many derivatives are allowed on one particular airframe without new certification?

Mere regulations are never an issue when it comes to the JAA doing things for Airbus.
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Mon Aug 13, 2001 2:00 am

Which airline will get the first one?
 
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B747-437B

Mon Aug 13, 2001 4:59 am

B747-437B: Mere regulations are never an issue when it comes to the JAA doing things for Airbus.

Yawn...
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Mon Aug 13, 2001 5:13 am

Klaus. I really don't know, I'm just sorta surprised the CRJ900's gonna take so long to certify --3Q 2002, even though its first flight was this past February. Eighteen months, even though it's really very little more than a stretched 700, with some landing-gear and APU (and of course engine) upgrades.

So I'm just working from there, and not understanding how come it's gonna take that long. (on the other hand, both Embraer and Fairchild Dornier were announcing just really-speedy certifications, like several months or something, even though both of those are brand-new airframes. So I put it just down to marketing-team optimistic spin, since I don't know what's going on there, either, to make those procedures so short).


B747-437B, y'know it's not just Airbus, Boeing got mighty speedy certification for its 777s for instance, when they were announced (especially the derivatives).
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Mon Aug 13, 2001 5:18 am

NoUFO, thanks for the pics! (even just those second and third ones, looks sorta Stubby already!  Smile)
 
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Mark_D:

Mon Aug 13, 2001 5:42 am

Mark_D: I really don't know, I'm just sorta surprised the CRJ900's gonna take so long to certify

Who knows... Might be interesting to have insight into the details of certification.
Maybe in that case they were having trouble meeting some specifics...

I just thought a derivative would get through faster especially if it only differs in a few aspects. I would expect they´d have to do most flight tests, though. Details, anyone?  Smile
 
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RE: Final Assembly Of First A318 Started Today (Aug 9)

Mon Aug 13, 2001 5:58 am

Klaus Well from some quarters anyway --B747-437B might be able to shed light on this--, apparently there are some politics involved at times? I don't know.

Couple weeks back though I did notice Bombardier's giviing a few details in their latest "Regional Update Magazine" pdf for June-july, something like 65 percent of the flight envelope been tested, and comments from the pilots about it flying 'just like a 700'. they got a few other details mentioned about hours logged, and what the modifications are as well, relative to the 70-seater.

I'll try to have a look at some of the procedural details involved, from FAA and JAA. Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.

 
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Mark_D

Mon Aug 13, 2001 6:13 am

Interesting stuff. Keep going...  Wink/being sarcastic

Mark_D: Political concerns of course, if any, would be tougher to discern.

Hmmm. I think any manufacturer who thought they were being shorthanded would raise a big stink over this.
For the moment, my theory still is that somebody screwed up on either side. It´s usually the safest bet. Big grin

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