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717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:10 am

Happening as I type this. Nose gear failed to lower. Stay tuned.
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TWA717_200
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:15 am

Which airline?
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:16 am

TWA into Scott AFB
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TWA717_200
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:21 am

Another EMG landing for TWA???

Great.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:31 am

Wow, have they attempted the EMG landing yet? Where did you hear this news? Please give us the latest updates if you have time.
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:43 am

TWA plane lands safely
(8:39 p.m.) -- TWA flight 519, a 717 carrying 76 people, made a belly landing at MidAmerica Airport. The flight could not get its nose gear down and was diverted to MidAmerica in order to make the emergency landing. The plane had to burn fuel before landing. The flight originated in Nashville and landed in Springfield, Ill., due to weather conditions at Lambert Airport. Stay tuned to KMOV.com and News 4 for more information on this story as soon as it is available.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:49 am

Thank God the airplane made it safely and hopefully everyobe escaped without injuries.
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 10:51 am

Oooooohhh, it sure is a shame that it had to scrape up the belly of a new 717 (I know, this isn't the most important thing, but heck!)
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 11:13 am

Correction:

The Aircraft landed at Scott AFB/Mid-America Airport.

Other than enroute delays, weather was not a factor at STL.
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 4:50 pm

Looks like that'll be the first 717 to get painted in the hybrid livery!
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 7:07 pm

In other news Carl Ichan still has no life.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 11:09 pm

Srbmod

Looks like this will also be the first baremetal 717.. Im curious to see how it looks in silver and how thebig 715s look all grey since the T/R and nozzle on the 717 is painted and not bare metal.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 11:19 pm

I made a post on this subject last night but the post was deleted for some reason. I work at MidAmerica Airport as an aircraft refueleer and was there at the time of this incident. The airctaft was coming from nashville,TN and was going to STL but had to divert to SPI (springfield IL) to get fuel due to bad wx at STL. The aircraft was going into STL and thenose gear would not come down. The a/c diverted to BLV (MidAmerica) where the foam trucks had the runway foamed. The aicraft circled to burn as much fuel as possible. the main gear was down and locked and the a/c made a stunning nose-gear-up landind. the a/c came to rest with about 2,000 ft of the 10,000 ft runway left. emergency crews then hurried to the a/c where there weas no fire and no injuries. one woman was taken to the hospital b/c she has a heart problem.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Fri Aug 10, 2001 11:23 pm

 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 1:03 am

I bought a ticket for the express purpose of flying TWA one last time and to ride in the 712. Hope they don't have to do an equipment change now...
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 1:38 am

Mascoutah, Ill. (KMOV, AP) -- TWA mechanics are on the scene and federal investigators are expected to arrive at Mid America Airport this afternoon. They are searching for what caused the nose landing gear of flight 519 to fail forcing a belly landing.

A TWA Boeing 717 traveling from Nashville to St. Louis made an emergency landing at MidAmerica Airport at about 8:30 Thursday night after the landing gear failed to operate.


TWA spokeswoman Julia Bishop-Cross said no one was hurt. Flight 519 was carrying 71 passengers and 5 crew members.

She said one passenger was taken to a hospital. She believes that was for observation because she said the person has a known heart condition.

The flight was due to arrive at Lambert Airport at about 3 p.m. Because of weather conditions, the flight landed in Springfield, Illinois. Once the weather cleared, the flight headed for Lambert Airport and that was when pilots reported trouble lowering the nosegear, TWA said. The flight was diverted to MidAmerica Airport where crews foamed the runway in preparation for the belly landing.

Donn Johnson on location at MidAmerica Airport reported that several emergency vehicles were on the scene Thursday night. He reported that the emergency chutes in both the front and rear of the plane had been deployed. He said that the plane did not appear to be too badly damaged and the airport was taking on a circus-like atmosphere as people flocked to the scene to witness the landing.

Bishop-Cross said initial reports were that the plane's nosegear did not go down as it normally would on landing, but there was "not a whole lot of damage" to the plane.

Passengers boarded buses at MidAmerica and were transported to St. Louis.

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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 5:57 am

Surely they didn't foam the runway before the aircraft landed.That would greatly increase the risk of the aircraft leaving the runway. They must have foamed the runway as the aircraft came to a stop the spread of any possible fire.
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BA
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 6:14 am

They spray the foam as the plane approaches right infront of it.

Its necessary to help reduce sparks that can cause fires.

Well......looks like TWA will need to hire some painters. Big grin
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 6:44 am

Does anyone know the registration.
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 6:56 am

Ship 2417, N2417F.

-Kevin
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 7:07 am

Thanks Kevin. I toured N407TW, so I was hoping it wasn't that one,... N407TW was Beautiful (as is all of the TWA 717s)
 
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Sat Aug 11, 2001 11:48 am

BA,

I work for STL airport authority. I am well aware of how foam is dispensed. ARFF trucks will not be on the runway itself to appply foam for an approaching aircraft. They will be well outside the runway safety area. What if the pilot lost control?
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wilcharl
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Mon Aug 13, 2001 11:48 am

The "Foam" blanket is AFFF right?!?!?!
 
DeltaBoy777
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Mon Aug 13, 2001 11:52 am

WOW  Sad That's Sad!!! Didn't hear anything about it in Texas!!!
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RE: 717 Emergency Landing

Mon Aug 13, 2001 12:58 pm

Am I the only worried about an almost brand new aircraft having a problem like this? Airtran had electrical fires, now TWA has stuck gear. Is this thing snakebit?

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Critter

Mon Aug 13, 2001 1:41 pm

I HAVE FLOWN 407!!!!! I just thought I would share- you toured N407TW, and I flew it from DFW-STL just in July. Great airplane.

I would think the foam blanket would be sprayed to REDUCE friction. Scraping metal across concrete does not cause fires; sparks generated from heat- a direct result of friction- cause fires.

This is strange.

I must correct someone though: AirTran's fires were NOT on their 717 aircraft, but their DC-9-30s. They DID have a couple of complete electrical failures, but this was corrected.

All new planes have teething problems. Let's not even get started on the DC-10. I don't think this 717 is snakebit, I think it's great. But I will admit that it is a little... worrisome. Could it be TWA's cost-cutting measures are biting them in the butt? Who knows?

IT is suspicious.

Randy

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