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NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 2:26 am

This past week, I flew on a NW 722 between ORD and DTW. I was looking forward to flying on this plane because they are retireing them soon, but I didn't know that they are just letting the interiors rot to hell just because they will be gone soon! This plane was a disaster inside. The very first seat in first class on the aisle had a thick piece of duct tape wrapped around it on the top saying "Flight attendants only!!" I sat over the wing and the wing was totally tattered, paint coming off. Anyways, the flight was fine, but gosh it's sad to see those planes in those conditions!


RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 2:58 am

I must agree- the 727 was great for it's time but now airlines just don't have a use for it and some airports restrict landing there due to "Noise Regulations". I really hate to see all the oldies just fly off to their death in the graveyards. ;,-(

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 3:07 am

All the NW 722's that ive flown have been in great conditon, with good seat pitch.. I recently flew a NW DC-9-50 and was appalled with the conditon of it, especially the water leaking in the cabin through the cieling midsection.
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 5:37 am

its called what a surprise..all a/c have this phenom in the heat of the summer...the 727's are not going to have any interior upgrades when they are on the way out..
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

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Mon Aug 13, 2001 1:32 pm

The greatest aircraft ever were the DC-10, L-1011, and the 727. They are reduced to shadows of their former glory.

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 8:12 pm

I was on a recent flight from SLC to MSP and the interior of the 727 was comfortable. The Flight was wonderfull. I sure will miss the 722's once their gone from nw's fleet.
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 9:52 pm

I've flown on quite a few of the NW 722's lately and have not seen anything like you've described. Granted I haven't been on all of them lately...

Anyway, the 727 is one of my faves, and I think they are far more comfortable than most of the newer planes, especially the ones with the new DC-9 seats. The older seats are much more comfortable. Oh well, all good things must come to an end.
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 10:20 pm

As a result of the vast expansion of air cargo facilities
and Lindbergh Field, San Diego, there has been an influx
of Boeing 727's, with some of them looking as if they were the very early marques due to the shorter fuselages as compared to later models.

And of course, United continues to fly their 727's into

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Mon Aug 13, 2001 10:27 pm

Bummer. That's no way to treat a great lady.

I flew on one of AA's 727's a while back from MSY to MIA, and it was in similar shape, including duct tape on an arm rest.

At one time no airline would have allowed such conditions on any plane, regardless of its age or its approaching retirement.

It's a sad commentary on the times.
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 4:52 am

It all boils down to saving money. The airlines do not want to spend money to patch up a old plane that will be gone in 1-4 years, they'd rather spend their money elsewhere, like towards a new A/C for example.

Granted the cost fo a new airplane is by far more than the cost to repair the cabin of an old one, but if you neglect even 40 of those old planes you've saved quite a bit, because repairing all of them would add up.

Besies, these airline ar elarge enough to get away with that, they are well known, make tons of money, and ARE aquiring new planes right and left. So letting their image slide in one place should not hurt them too much.

Even those of you who flew on the NW 727s that were in bad shape will probably fly Northwest again anyway, right? so there's not much harm done to the airline, which in turn means they could care less the shape of their old plane because they still have the customers coming in.

Now if a new/startup airline were flying THEIR planes in that condition, they would go bankrupt rather quickly, because no one would fly them, not with that image.

Amazing the difference.

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 6:24 am

I've seen a couple of NW 722's barely make it off the runway here in CLE... I'm talking out of 7,096 ft. they must have had less than 1,000 ft. left when they got their wheels up.

But last night took the cake... I saw a US F-100 go wheels up with 500 ft. left. I had to go sit down. I mean the thing almost clipped the fence at the end of the runway -- maybe cleared it by 50 feet.

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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 7:46 am

As I am writing this a Northwest 727 is taking off over my house, their ain't nothing louder than that taking off from DTW

RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 8:01 am

HlywdCatft, how would you like to trade houses. I'd give my left nut to hear the roar of those old jets over my house, ven the new ones.  Big grin

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Tue Aug 14, 2001 11:20 am

I am posting a flight report DTW-MKE-DTW on NW and 727s.
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 1:19 pm

Why keep in tip top shape an airpalne that is only going to be flying for a few more months?
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Tue Aug 14, 2001 1:41 pm

I think it must depend on when the a/c is set to be retired. I flew on a couple of 727s last month and they were just fine. maybe that ship is scheduled to be retired VERY soon.

The sign on hte seat was probably because the jump seat for the flight attendant was broken. seen that on many a flight.

RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:00 am

I was on a NW 722 DTW-MIA last month, in F, and it was fine. their 722s (or at least the ones I've been on) have the best F seats and pitch in their narrow-body fleet. ahhh...
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Enjoy The 72, While You Still Can!

Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:17 am

In a couple of years, none of us will be able to fly on one of these *classic* birds ever again. How will you feel then about a little duct tape?

I for one *love* going down the jetway and getting on a 727, look into the cockpit and see the incredible array of steam gauges and buttons, very disorganized compared with modern machinery. They are a little sluggish, especially on a hot day, but apart from that they fly great - and I believe the flight crews love 'em.

I spoke to an NWA captain a couple of years ago after a 727 segment - I asked why they were still flying them - simple answer - THEY ARE PAID FOR!
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:54 am

I'm not that close to DTW, probably about 15 or more miles, but when the planes take off to the north, the ones that head west bound make their turns usually over my house but they are several thousand feet up. None the less, the 722s and DC-9s of Northwest still roar through the house. You have to be outside to hear all of the other planes
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NW 722 Mine Was Fine!

Wed Aug 15, 2001 10:55 am

I just flew MSP-DTW and DTW-MSP. On the MSP-DTW flight it was an A320 built in 1992. Great interior. On the DTW-MSP it was a B 727 built in 1981. I couldn't tell a differance between the two!
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RE: NW 722's, Eeee Gads!

Wed Aug 15, 2001 2:52 pm

In '94 I was onboard a 722 and the three seats in the back could not be sold due to faulty seat cusions and/or seatbelts. These are the least maintained aircraft in NWA's fleet

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