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How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 1:44 am

I am interested in knowing how you became an airline pilot. For instance what school you went to and how many hours you had to put in before you were hired to work for an airline. Did you work for a commuter airline such as USAir Express or Comair before you were able to work for an airline. How many years went by after college before you were hired to work for an airline. Basically i would just like to know how you became a pilot for a major carrier and how long it took..

Thank you
 
doug_or
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 3:39 am

If you don't go the military aviation route (which fewer and fewer people are now doing), you generaly pay for you own training (which is quite expensive), and then work as a flight instructor at a local airport, possibly doing some charter work there, too, if possible. Hopefully, then on to a regional for a few more years before getting to the majors. A 4 college degree is helpful, but not completely neccesary, however some schools (purdue, UND, Embry Riddle), offer piloting programs that allow you to graduate with all of the flight training you need to start lying professionaly. If you stay focused and start early, becoming a pilot for the majors by your 30th B-day is a reasonable goal.
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Shawn Patrick
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 3:58 am

Hey is this the Doug that created jetcareers.com?
 
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 4:09 am

Doug Taylor (Jetcareers webmaster) nick name is Delta737. If you want to become a pilot his site is a must! Jetcareers
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 4:14 am

Check out JetCareers @:
http://www.jetcareers.com
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 4:19 am

I want to know more about military way  Smile
 
deltaownsall
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 4:35 am

Doug_or - Are you saying that you can go right into a regional like Comair if you graduate Embry Riddle with your Commercial Aviation License (or whatever it is called)? Also, you can get your Commercial aviation license at a college like Embry Riddle?
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RJ
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:03 am

I don't know if I should answer this thread or not. Seeing that I work to a large Regional I don't know if I qualify. The author of this thread seems to think that I don't work for an airline.........

There are a myriad of ways to get to an airline. The route I chose is pretty typical of what most civilians are doing these days. I first started flying during college. Aviation had always fascinated me and at the time I was burned out of my major in college and wanted to do something that interested me. I received my Private and Instrument Ratings while I was in college and after I graduated college with my B.A. degree, I went to work for Delta Air Lines as an Air Cargo Agent at LAX in order to save money for flight training ( what makes an airplane fly?...............money!) I decided to enroll in a major Aviation Academy. This is not the route for everybody, but at the time it offered the quickest way to a regional airline. I received the balance of my ratings there and applied to instruct at the school. My first job was as a Ground School Instructor teaching Instrument and Commercial students. I then graduated to flight instructing. I instructed for approx. 16 months before I was hired on to a large Regional Airline. Two airplanes, two domiciles, a buy-out and a strike latter I am waiting to upgrade to Captain so I can gain the valuable PIC time that I will need in order to hopefully move on to the majors.

What I have learned over the years is that:

1.) Get a degree (doesn't matter in what subject)

2.) Build quality time. (By that I mean multi-engine and IFR time)

3.) Build PIC time

4.) Network (You never know when somebody will be your "big break")

5.) Perseverance (this cannot be over stated)

I hope this helps

Happy flying!!!

RJ
 
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:08 am

As soon as you graduate from schools like Embry, Purdue, UND, you stand a very good chance of getting a job at a regional. I don't know about Embry, but at UND they take you right up to your ATP license. (Air Transport Pilot).
 
Hastaroth
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:24 am

This question is addressed to Mr. RJ:You said that,to become a pilot,one must get a degree but the subject doesn't matter.Does that mean if someone gets a degree in ,say, Molecular Biology he can then become a pilot?

 
RJ
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:41 am


Hastaroth,

That is what I am saying. I know several people that have gone to the majors with degrees ranging from Business to Environmental Design. Heck, I have a B.A. in Studio Art. I'm not at the majors yet, but you don't have to get an aviation related degree.

Happy flying!!!

RJ
 
Shawn Patrick
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:42 am

Yeppers. You could even get a degree in underwater basket weaving. (Don't know where you would get it though !)

On AA's pilot requirements page, I believe it states that you do not even need to have a college degree. Of course you won't be a candidate of choice.

Everwhere I go, people recommend that I get my degree in something unrelated to aviation, such that you have a backup plan if being a pilot just doesn't work out.
 
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 5:51 am

Would getting a degree in something related to aviation give you a better chance at becoming a commercial pilot at all? If so, that would be great to get a useful degree that is actually interesting in college  Smile/happy/getting dizzy If not, I would probably go for the business degree because of its wide range of usefulness. Also, anyone heard of that comair flight school? I read an advertisement in Flying magazine for it...they said that a whopping 97% of their graduates went on to Regionals. Is this a graduate school or can you go into it right after High School?
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 6:57 am

You can't get a degree from there, but they have a partner ship with two colleges. If you want to get into the regionals from high school, go to gulfstream acadamey. you get like 250 hours of regional time, and you start from zero hours. no degree though, and its not a for sure that you will go strait to the regionals.
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gocaps16
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RE: How You Became An Airline Pilot

Tue Aug 14, 2001 7:05 am

Comair is a flight academy. You can enroll at Comair right after High School and since they join service with Jacksonville University and Miami-Dade CC, you can get your degree while getting you licenses and ratings. I am thinking to expedite my training, I will enroll to Sierra Academy of Aeronautics. AS for a degree, an aviation degree is helpful, but I've read that airlines recommend their pilot to major on other subjects then aviation, you know, just in case if you are grounded then you have a backup degree.

I'm getting my A&P license next year and being an aircraft mechanic will be my 2nd career.
Good luck!

Kevin/DCA

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