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"Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 6:13 am

On some flights you hear the message "arm slides" from the front office, and soon after the crew pull a smal handel under a cover located under the window on each door. My question is: Is that procedure only necesary to do onboard airbus birds?
I was wondring, because the onlty time I have heard thet message have been onborad Premiarr A320 and Thai A300-600R aircrafts.

Hope omeone can clear this up.

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 6:37 am

All Boeing and Airbus planes are equiped with evacutation slides. They are in that part of the door that bulges out at the bottom.

In the United States, slides must be armed before the aircraft can push back from the gate. By arming the slide, when the door opens, the evacuation slide opens too. In the US, the flight attendant working the entry door, will make an announcment along the lines of "Flight attendants arm doors for departure."

On the A320 family, and I assume with other Airbusses, there is a handle that pops up out of the door. When that is pushed down, it arms the bottle in the slide pack so that when the door is opened it blows the slide.

On the 707, 727, and the 737, there is what is called a "girt bar" which is latched to the floor. By latching that to the floor, when the door is opened, it pulls the slide out, and it is then inflated.

On larger Boeings, there is an automatic slide arming device just like that on the airbus where the bottle in the slide pack arms.

Once an aircraft reaches the gate, the f/a at the door used for exiting the plane will say "Flight Attendants, de-arm your doors for arrival." At that time, the girt bar is raised, or the door is switched in to the "De-armed" position and the door will open with out the slide inflating.

Any other questions?

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:24 am

We use "Doors in flight condition" when leaving the gate,and "Doors in parking condition" when arriving, wich means "arme" and de-arme" the slides.
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 10:35 am

Does the 737NG still use girt bars?
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 11:08 am

Spitfire wrote:

We use "Doors in flight condition" when leaving the gate,and "Doors in parking condition" when arriving, wich means "arme" and de-arme" the slides.


The Arm position would be for flight, as you need the slide to be "armed" incase you need to evacuate on the ground. The de-armed position means that it is safe for the door to open, or in your case parking condition, as you dont want the slides to open when at the gate.

Flashmieister wrote:

Does the 737NG still use girt bars?


Yes they do. This keeps with the door comonality for the 737. This is the only Boeing in production with this type of slide arming device.

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 11:18 am

Braathens (BU) announces "Cabin crew, arm slides please" and "Cabin crew, disarm slides please" on their 737 aircraft.

Air New Zealand (NZ) announces "Cabin crew, prepare doors for take-off" (or something down that line).

My wild guess is that it is the same procedure going on in both airlines - and arm slides is not only on Airbus.
 
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Sat Aug 18, 2001 12:08 pm

At Continental we say "Flight Attendants, prepare doors for departure, cross check, verify straps and stand-by for all-call." Upon arrive its "Flight Attendants prepare doors for arrival, cross check and stand-by for all-call. All announcements are made by the FSM/ISM. On 737's and MD-80's we leave out the all-call part since we do not have to do an all-call them, everything else 777, 767 and 757 we do an all-call.

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 5:49 pm

Royal Brunei: Boeing(767s)

"Cabin attendants arm slides and crosscheck."
"Cabin attendants disarm slides and prepare for arrival"
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 7:10 pm

British Airways:

"Cabin Crew doors to automatic and cross-check."

and

"Cabin crews doors to manual and cross-check".

Another thing I have noticed is BA do three 'dings' over the PA just before lining up for t/o - this is after they announce 'Cabin Crew seats for takeoff'. Do other airlines do this? CAA/FAA/JAA regs?
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sat Aug 18, 2001 7:41 pm

Royal Brunei flick the seat belt signs on and of twice to let the Cabin Crew know that they can get up once in the air, but passengers must stay seated.

BI says "Cabin attendants seats for take off"
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 3:44 am

Onboard KLM 737 aircrafts the captain calls out: "doors may be opened" as soon as the bird has come to an compleete stop.

On bigger TG jets, the call: Prepear a/c for takeoff or landing" means thet the crew shall stow all equipment, take their seats and do other important acts.

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 9:25 am

At AirNZ:
"cabin Crew please Arm your doors for Departure, Thankyou"
"Cabin Crew please take your Seats for departure, Thankyou"..Followed by Two dings. (Means they are turning on to the runway at AirNZ)
Two Dings of the no smokign sign will then bing and that is the alert that the cabin crew may get up and do what they want!!
Before landing they get a call from the flight deck when to prepare for landing but not over the PA.
When the Gear comes down Two Bings will sound again from the No-Smoking sign. That is the alert that they are on finals and must take there seats for landing.
"Cabin Crew please Dis-Arm doors for Gate Arrival, Thankyou."
After this an announcement is followed by the Purser to say Thanksyou...Blarblarblar!!

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 11:49 am

Speaking of Dings or Bings...

just out of curiosity, is KLM still doing the "This was the signal from the Captain that we are ready for take-off" announcement?

Last time I flew KLM (1998) we heard two dings and the above statement immediately prior to the take-off roll...
 
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Sun Aug 19, 2001 2:56 pm

hi

i am a flight attendant, and FAA regulation requires that all planes regardless of their type must have evacuation devices.. I.E, the slides..
now before push back, the Pilot will announce : "Cabin Crew please Arm emergency exits" or some would say : "Cabin Crew, please set doors to automatic" a plane cannot leave or move from the gate while the doors are dis-armed. now upon arrival, the pilot will say : "Cabin crew, please Disarm emergency exits, or set doors to manual

since i work on both Airbus and boeing, both aircrafts has arming and disarming devices... but the 777 devices, are more noticable than the Airbus

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 3:32 pm

KLM uses "Cabin crew, all doors to automatic", followed by "Cabin crew, takeoff positions" or "Cabin crew, take your seats" (or something like that, probably telling them to strap in).
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 6:43 pm

Interesting. I've not paid much attention to these announcement lately.

BTW, in the past TG used "Cabin crew, door slide armed" and "Cabin crew, door slide disarmed" on Airbus. On Boeing, I heard "Cabin crew, door mode automatic" and "Cabin crew, door mode manual."

These announcement occurs before push back and after engine shutdown, respectively.

That's from my rather poor memory. I'll find out the exact phrases next time I fly THAI.
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 7:55 pm

SPK: Isn't Tg using the "cabin crew prepare a/c for takeoff/landing" on their widebodies.

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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Sun Aug 19, 2001 8:21 pm

It depends on the regulations of the country in which the airline is liscenced, but all aircraft with evacuation slides need to be switched on (automatic) whilst in flight and switched off (manual) whilst on the ground.

For example, in Europe the command "Doors to Automatic" is given by the captain a few minutes before takeoff. And "Doors to manual" a few minutes after landing.
 
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Mon Aug 20, 2001 12:55 am

Tg 747-300: I think the sequence would be

For take off:
1. Close door
2. "Cabin crew, door slide armed"
3. Push back and taxi
4. Chime, "Cabin crew, prepare aircraft for take off"
5. Take off

For landing:
1. Descend
2. "Cabin crew, prepare aircraft for landing"
3. Landing/Taxi to gate
4. Engine shutdown
5. "Cabin crew, door slide disarmed"
6. Jetway connected and door opened

For THAI operations, doors are armed prior to pushback and disarmed just before the jetway is connected. The prepare aircraft for take off and landing for THAI usually means stowing curtains, carts, cabin crew strapped to jump seats, etc.

BTW, these are from my memory so please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
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RE: "Arm Slides" = Only Airbus?

Mon Aug 20, 2001 1:33 am

At Air Canada procedures are similar but there are a few differences. First off, I can confirm what numerous people has said here being all Boeing and Airbus birds have emergency slides or slide/rafts at all entry doors. Depending on the size of the bird O/W exits can be equipped with nothing (737 eg) to a full ramp and slide (767 eg.) O/W exits that are just windows and not doors are constantly in armed mode. Even the airstairs at the rear of the 737 combi has an emergency mode which, when the handle is pushed past the regular opening position, will cause the stairs to freefall.

Departure procedure involves the In-charge making the PA "Cabin crew please prepare for departure and cross-check". This announcement is made as soon as pushback starts. A conference call with each interphone station is held to verify doors are armed and on the smaller aircraft a thumbs up signalis given to the In-charge. The Flight Deck makes an annoucnement "Cabin crew take your positions for take-off" which is made at least one minute prior to take-off roll.

On decent the Flight Deck give a ten minute warning (usually at 20,000 ft.) to cabin crew by flashing the seatbelt sign off and on (or on, off and back on again) to warn crew to concentrate on securing the a/c for landing. A three minute warning is given by the pilots and the audio and visual indicators differ per aircraft. Example on the A340 the exit signs illuminate and a lo chime is heard. On the 747-400 the no smoking sign flashes off and on three times with an accompanying chime. On some aircraft the signal is triggered by the extension of the landing gear. Just prior to gate arrival and full stop of the a/c the In-charge announces "Cabin crew please prepare for arrival and cross-check". Same verification methods used.

Now I have a question for Flight Attendants at other airlines. Who's responsibility is it to open the main entry door(s)? Is it ground crew, passenger agent or cabin crew? At AC it is ground crew who bring the bridge up, look for a thumbs-up signal from the crew through the viewing port and open the door from the outside upon receipt of the signal.

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