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People Say Aerospace Is Dead, T/F? (Long Read)

Sat Aug 25, 2001 9:20 am

Yesterday in a computer science class that began this fall, my new instructor embarrassed me in class and I feel completely humiliated and bummed by what he said.

He was asking everyone what their major was, why they choose it and what it has to do with this class. Unfortunately my last name was first and when I told him I was majoring in Aerospace, he started laughing and said that there hasn't been an AE in his class for over 20 years! To show that I had some humor left in me, I said, "I know it's a dying field, but..." then he cut me off and yelled, "Haha, it's dead and so is anyone that goes in the field unless you go work for some big company in Dallas or Seattle!"

Most of the class laughed and the jerk continued, "What are you doing? Why not go into Civil Engineering?" I put on a shy smile and mumbled that airplanes have been in my blood since I was young, but he went on to the next student.

It just so happened that everyone else in class were either CompSci or Business majors, who the heck cared for airplanes? I felt like a straight guy in a bar full of lesbians, like they were going to have me for lunch.

I know what I'm up against, possibility of no job. I don't care; I refuse to believe that aerospace is EXTINCT to the point where we should give up on advancement for worries about return-on-investment!!

By the time I die, if Concorde is still the worlds only SST and our air traffic is still same subsonic technology of the 1970's, I will have wish that I committed suicide when I had the chance.

Opinions anyone?

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RE: People Say Aerospace Is Dead, T/F? (Long Read)

Sat Aug 25, 2001 12:58 pm

Your class and teacher obviously do not understand the importance of having aerospace. You can always have the last laugh.

We need machines to transport us to destinations within a month, days or even hours - planes, trains, buses, cars and ships.

The fastest, furthest machines that can take us across sea/oceans within hours are planes.

Aerospace experts/ engineers are part of aerospace to build, repair or maintain expensive civlian and military planes daily. Without them (no constant maintenance), our planes can go haywire and crash.

These people are the ones who design the planes and ensure maxmium safety of passengers abroad the planes - over hundreds of planes are in air daily!

The number of people travelling under normal circumstances (i mean no economic crisis to ground the travellers) is increasing rapidly - leads to increase in purchase of planes and renewal of fleet.

Aging passenger planes are being either scrapped or extended their life to serve other function such as cargo transport or even re-fuelling transport plane. So you need aerospace people to design better, faster planes with modern fuel-saving system to replace aging inefficent planes.

Aerospace is truly amazing but millions of people worldwide have taken for granted. We have wide variety of planes serving mankind very very well!

Space shuttle is considered part of aerospace - although it travels in space - it still guides in air and lands like any planes. The space shuttle looks like any plane but it is very special plane that is capable to go up to space and come back to Earth safely.

Travelling in space would help to keep aerospace alive. It won't take long before we finally see first prototype passenger plane that can transport humans to space and come back to Earth within 2 hours - imagine u take this plane from New York and land in Singapore less than an hour!

Concorde, no doubt, is the most magnificent machine ever built. However the lifespan of the concordes are reduced to few years left to serve us - probably end before 2010 or even earlier. They have been around for more than 30 years already.  Smile

But the next generation of supersonic passenger planes would arrive within decades eventually although we probably may not be able to see the new generation SST before year 2010 is out.

You can shoot back to teacher or class:

"Without aerospace, you would not be able to go within hours from one destination to another one - over 10, 000 km apart.

You would be struck with the ships that would take you several days to travel across mighty oceans to your destination - not within hours. Hence aerospace is not dead, sir."

You can end it with a big smile.

After all, aerospace is still alive.

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RE: People Say Aerospace Is Dead, T/F? (Long Read)

Sat Aug 25, 2001 1:14 pm

an arrogant computer science professor??? well i never!!!

kinda reminds me of nick burns from saturday night live.

who cares what this clown thinks - let him worry about solving the pickle matrix while you help people fly around the world. but it's odd that someone who should be educated is ignorant of the importance of aerospace.
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RE: People Say Aerospace Is Dead, T/F? (Long Read)

Sat Aug 25, 2001 2:31 pm

First of all your professor is an ass and wasted the classes time.

But on some level is right. I would say Aerospace is not dead, but much smaller than it used to be. After the end of the cold war the industry was heavily consilidated and needed fewer engineers. It is not an industry, like say Computer Engineering, that is growing rapidly. But AE still has its place and needs well trained engineers to work for it.
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RE: People Say Aerospace Is Dead, T/F? (Long Read)

Sat Aug 25, 2001 5:51 pm

He's a pratt, computer engineering? Uh hello, where are nearly all the big job losses right now.
He has no vision, outside of his petty, fashion-driven ideas.
Judging by your age profile, if you are successful in your field you could be working on a new SST in 20 years time, or even a sub-orbital vehicle.
I predict there will be a shortage of aerospace engineers soon, there is in the UK now. So then you can pick and choose, name your price, then go back and gloat to that prick of a teacher.
Hell, society is producing far too many media types and law students, he should be praising you.

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