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Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:52 am

Mexicana is increasing its Airbus fleet with two A320's ex Libyan Arab Airlines (EI-TLT, EI-TLG) that were resting at MHV waiting for a new operator:

MSN:415
Aircraft: A320-231
Engine: V2500-A1
Delivery:03/25/94
Registration: N415MX

MSN:428
Aircraft: A320-231
Engine: V2500-A1
Delivery:05/04/94
Registration: N428MX

Both airbus airliners will be replacing the two B727-200's Mexicana had on lease after the leasing agreement expired. Both B722 were not HK3, so Mexicana couldn´t use them for US routes.

With this deliveries, Mexicana confirms its choice for the Airbus A320 family to replace the B722's which have been part of Mexicana for decades.
Mexicana's B722 fleet is one of the youngest flying, since they were adquired from 1979 through 1981, and refurbished in 1991. I know that Mexicana will find buyers for the B722 quite easily (after they decide to retire them all). What do you think?

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:59 am

Dont forget the A319's they are getting.
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Thu Aug 30, 2001 12:45 pm

Thanks for the info, Rojo. I heard MXA had just received a couple of additional A320s, but I didn't know about their registrations, msn's and previous operators.

By the way, do you know anything about MXA's plans to start service to Europe?
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Thu Aug 30, 2001 1:01 pm

Username: Hkgspotter1
Posted 2001-08-30 02:59:52 and read 22 times.
Dont forget the A319's they are getting.


So they are getting A319s for sure? I certainly hope so... the A319 is perfect for Mexicana!
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Thu Aug 30, 2001 9:40 pm

Fernando Flores, CEO of Mexicana Airlines, told the media that they were searching for A319's to replace both B722's after their leasing contracts expire. Finally they got a better deal for the two A320's, and they match perfectly with Mexicanas A320's fleet: they have the V2500-A1 engines and they are both A320-231.
They couldn´t start getting the A319, because we don´t really know Mexicana's future and choosing a type of A319 will make them stick to it in the future (higher prices to get the perfect match). So they got both A320's that match perfectly with the fleet and maybe in the future they can place an A319 order with Airbus.

AM

About Mexicana's Frankfurt route nothing has been said. If they really want to open it this year, they really have to start searching for an airliner capable of doing the route. Hope they start Europe service because I really want to see Mexicana in more continents (trully international).

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Fri Aug 31, 2001 4:43 am

Rojo:
Where do get all this information about the new mexcican airliners.
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RE: AeroMexico 757

Sat Sep 01, 2001 5:03 am

AeroMexico757

One of my highschool friends finally made it for a position as a flight engineer of the B722. He usually knows what's happening inside Mexicana and AeroMexico. Also the parents of my best friend know Alfonso Pasquel and Fernando Flores very good. So when I go to his house, we end up talking about CINTRA and airlines.

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:26 am

Mexicana Just Start Code Share with UAL to London:

It´s going to be a daily service between London Heathrow and Mexico City, Monterrey (with continuing service to Leon, Guanajuato), and Guadalajara, by way of Chicago.
Schedules as follows :
MX0810 GDL 0800-1200 ORD (operated by MX A320)
MX0808 MTY 0830-1210 ORD (operated by MX A320)
MX0802 MEX 1430-1830 ORD (operated by MX A320)
MX3210 ORD 2125-1105 LHR (operated by UA B777)
MX3211 LHR 0800-1020 ORD (operated by UA B777)
MX0801 ORD1410-1805 MEX (operated by MX A320)
MX0809 ORD 1435-1800 MTY (operated by MX A320)
MX0811 ORD 1320-1720 GDL (operated by MX A320)
Mexicana's flights will be operating with Airbus 320.
United will be operating with Boeing 777.

This means Mexicana it´s thinking on future to go to Europe in the next months ... operating with B767s to the cities of London and Frankfurt.
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:39 pm

Hello
I hope 727's are kept in Mexicana for cargo, charters, and to expand routes. The 2 727's that just left the company (XA-MXI, XA-MXJ) were the only leased planes, so the other 20 are owned by the company. I hope they are not sold, so the 7 A320's-A319's expected would be in addition, not substitution.
Has anyone heard of 767's comming from Mexicana? if so, please inform... there are many rumors.
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Mx727

Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:03 pm

Mx727

Thats exactly what I wanted to ask you. Don't you have any inside scoop from your company, MX?

Ghost727: I wish that was the case. It would be awesome if MX started service to both Frankfurt and London. However, London Gatwick would be used since Heathrow would not be a possibility, unless of course something is worked out. But I highly doubt that.

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:36 pm

Mx727:
About the 767s, I´m not that shure but I think they arrived yesterday.. and there are in MXA Mainteinance Base... I saw this here:
http://www.foros-fs.net/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=11791&t=11791
Today I go to MEX to chat with my friends that know more than me... and also want to confirm is this true or false...
Just stay in Tune 'cause the 67s are comming!!

Latin Plane: We just have to wait the next 5 months!! in all Mexican Airliners... they´re openning flights.. and Aircrafts comming to... So we just have to wait what´s going with MX and the routes to Europe!! MX will give service to Frankfurt and Buenos Aires a Direct Flight and will continue also with the one that Stops in Cancun.. operated by a 757. Abouth Heathrow or Gatwick.. we just have to wait  Smile

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Sun Sep 02, 2001 4:36 pm

Latinplane.
yes, but I only hear rumors: one is that we are getting 2 767's from the factory that United didn't want, and other that they are from AM. I don't have any official information.
Ghost:
Thanks for the information, and I hope it's true cause i will become very happy.
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:30 am


Thanks for telling us some of the rumours. I find it funny that Cintra is giving AM's 767 to MX? Why would they do something like that? I don't understand. Is AM planning to drop some routes thereby not needing some 767s?


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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:59 am

LatinPlane:

Nop AM is not planing to drop routes... they also will receive more 67s... I´m not shure if 2 or 3...

Mx727:
Here´s another one I´m really not shure about the 67s that are all ready in MXA Mainteinance base... but if yes it would be just great!!!!

http://www.foros-fs.net/phorum/read.php?f=1&i=11799&t=11799

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Ghost77

Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:34 pm

Hi Ghost77:

It seems a bit odd what I read from your link about the "supposedly new delivered 767-300" that came from Lufthansa. You see, Lufthansa doesn’t operate 767s. Unless they came from Condor, the charter arm of Lufthansa. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be true. In any case, lets hope it’s a sure thing.

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:46 am

I would love to see Mexicana with some 767s. I have a friendo who is pilot for the 757 and I will ask him to see if he can confirm this.

Are the two 767s that Aeromexico is getting from the 200 series or the 300 series?

I would like to see airlines in Mexico operating big airplanes, I´m kind of tired of the DC9 or the F100 (I like this one but I´m tired of not seeing BIG ones).

Regards,

Archie
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 6:15 am

LatinPlane:

Yeap, you are right... I also now that, thats why I don´t give my opinion... Hope it´s true.. or even if they´re not from LH... that doesn´t matter the thing is that we want to see them soon hehe!!!

Archie:

The 767s from AM, I really don´t know what are they going to be, but I think 200 series... :-(

About the small acfts.. I´m not tired at looking them just kind of boared, 'cause they are just the same thing always!!

We just have to wait, what goes on for the next months...  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 9:52 am

Hola Ricardo,

Gracias por la informacion.

I am not tired of the small airplanes, I like them but what I meant is what you said, I´m kind of bored from the little airplane. I love to see heavy metal. When I was doing my practical part of my dispatcher course in MEX, I got to see the 767-300 (XA-APB) up close and I just loved it. Of course the 747-400 is more impresive, but I don`t think Aeromexico or Mexicana are planning on getting those any time soon :-(. I do hope Aeromexico will go for a 777 sometime, or even Mexicana, but I think we`ll have to wait a while.

Cuidate y saludos,

Archie
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:20 am

Que onda!
Archie,

Is there any way I can contact you!!?? I´ll like to spoke with you more, or meet... so we can change some ideas and point of views jeje...

My mail and ICQ are on my info!!..

Saludos!

P.S. Did you saw the DC10-15 from Hawaiian thar arrive 2 weeks ago??
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 3:10 pm

Hello
So I hope rumors are true, and I hope to see a MX 767 soon, as I hope to see Mexican aviation grow, cause we have market to have 777's flying to many parts of Europe, as all flights from Mexico to Europe are overbooked most of the year.
What I've heard about the 767's from AM is that the guaranty for those panes are the 727's from MX and with the split of Cintra, MX is claiming them. I don't know if that's true. Also the version that United is yielding them to MX sounds reliable cause UA is cancelling some orders from Boeing.
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:00 pm

Thanks to all for the information. Those of us living far from our country are always hungry for anything developing in the Mexican airlines, especially since there is not a lot of information on the Internet about Mexican airlines.

Two questions: Any news on what Cintra is going to do about AM and MX or when they will decide? The delay is just hurting the airlines since they can't develop a long-term strategy. Does anyone know how Líneas Aereas Azteca is doing? Where can I find information about the new airline?

Gracias a todos.
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:11 am

Ricardo,

Mi e-mail es triplesiete@hotmail.com

Que aviones te gustan? Cual es tu aerolinea favorita en Mexico?

Saludos,

Archie (Arturo).
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Wed Sep 05, 2001 6:21 am

Mexitli:

About Lineas Aereas Azteca... they are just doing fine.. last June they just received the first 737-7... and in Next Months they will be opening rountes.. Including the US to EL Paso as far as i Remember... About CINTRA there are no news!! Hope they split soon!! So after that.. we can see some changes on the Airlines.. MX and AM!!

We just have to wait!!

Regards,

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Wed Sep 05, 2001 8:35 am

I arrived into MEX on monday morning at about 8:30, and went right past MX's maintenance base, but I did not see any 767s nor anything like it (and that is the place where they should keep them) I'm not saying that MX is not getting those 767's , but I can tell you they were not in their base as of yesterday morning. But I did see an all-white A320 siting besides the MX ramp. I figure it is one of the new ones.
 
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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Wed Sep 05, 2001 10:47 am

Cx340, About the A320 maybe It was one being repainted cause the 405 is the Retro JET and the 428 it´s all ready painted... about the 767 I also know that they haven´t arrive... I think they will for next month!!

We just have to wait until then..

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RE: Mexicana Gets Two A320-231's

Wed Sep 05, 2001 11:35 am

When i was flying back from london arriving in chicago, i saw one of the A321's arrive. It was a very nice airplane. I think it will help Mexicana out a lot.