aio86
Posts: 910
Joined: Sat Sep 16, 2000 12:16 pm

Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:09 am

ATLANTA, Aug. 31 /PRNewswire/ -- Delta Air Lines (NYSE: DAL) will begin
new nonstop service from Atlanta to Akron/Canton, Ohio; Chicago-Midway and
Fort Walton Beach, Fla. on Saturday, Sept. 1.
"Delta is giving our customers what they want as we introduce the
convenience of even more nonstop service at the Atlanta hub, where Delta
already offers customers more low-fare, discount seats to more destinations
than any other airline," said Mark A.P. Drusch, Delta's senior vice president-
Network Management.
Delta will offer three daily flights between the Atlanta hub and
Akron/Canton. This new service complements Delta Connection carrier Comair's
nonstop service to Akron/Canton from Cincinnati.
Delta's nonstop service from Atlanta to Chicago-Midway will begin with
three flights daily and will expand to five flights on Jan. 1, 2002. The new
Atlanta flights are in addition to Delta Connection carrier Comair's service
to the Cincinnati hub from Midway. Delta also offers hourly service between
Atlanta and Chicago-O'Hare, as well as Comair's nonstop service from O'Hare to
Cincinnati.
Between Atlanta and Fort Walton Beach, Delta will offer customers more
seats as three Delta flights featuring the 142-seat MD-88 aircraft replace
three flights previously operated by Delta Connection carrier Atlantic
Southeast Airlines. ASA offers eight flights between Atlanta and Fort Walton
Beach.
Delta's goal is to become the No. 1 airline in the eyes of its customers,
flying passengers and cargo from anywhere to everywhere. People choose to fly
Delta more often than any other airline in the world on 5,091 flights each day
to 365 cities in 64 countries on Delta, Delta Express, Delta Shuttle, Delta
Connection carriers and Delta's Worldwide Partners. Delta is a founding
member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that gives customers extensive
worldwide destinations, flights and services. In addition to safely and
securely making reservations and purchasing tickets at delta.com, Delta
customers can select seats, upgrade, get up-to-date flight information, make
accommodations reservations, and more. U.S.-based travel agencies also can
access Delta Web fares for their customers via delta.com's Online Agency
Service Center. For more information, go to delta.com.


These three routes are all AirTran routes and I suppose are succesful for them. Has Delta ever served these routes before? Has Delta ever had any flights to Midway from any of their hubs? I don't think so. Sorry I saw this and it just screamed competition in my face. I hope that Delta isn't trying to do what American did to Legend. This might be a good thing though. Cheaper prices on those flights (as if it makes a difference for me in Los Angeles). Just thought it'd let you all know.

-aio86
 
RJ_Delta
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2000 4:17 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:17 am

Be careful Air Tran. Your death is very soon.

Go, Go, Go, Delta!!!!


RJ_Delta.
 
Boeingfan
Posts: 369
Joined: Thu Aug 30, 2001 1:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:21 am

Competition - Isn't it grand! Go!

Look at what is happening at RDU, AA Eagle... JI may have a challenge?

May the best carrier win, quick. We need a good sustainable fare increase now more than ever!

The fares are ridiculously low. Cost are rising, labor is at an all time high, fuel, insurance, airport fees, maintenance, not mention the cost of capital ...you name it. Is this anyway to run an industry, you bet it isn't!

People fly 500 mph, arrive safely, pay under USD100 to get there and still complain.
 
airlinelover
Posts: 5287
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:03 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 11:25 am

Delta is gonna get SCREWED SOOOO BAD!!!!!!

Long Live AirTran!!!

Chris
Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:11 pm

Uncle Joe,
I am with you all the way!!!!! Unlike Delta, AirTran offers lowfares to every city it serves, it lowers the fares on other airlines, offers jet service to markets that ASA serves with Brasilias and ATR72's. Plus they offer a very affordable Business Class for a $25 Upgrade, can't beat that. Inflight service is the same on all flights, a full selection of beverages and snacks (Biscoffs and Party Mix). They don't offer that crappy "Fast Break" service for $475 Bucks. The Boeing 717-200 is wonderful airplane, very environmentally friendly. AirTran offers same concourse connections at ATL, A Good FF Program, X-Fares Standby for 18-21 year olds for $52 Bucks one way, Gift Certificates, and more. Plus assigned seating. I reccomend AirTran to all of you, and jetBlue to other markets.

I give AirTran and jetBlue a GO!!!!!
 
BonanzaFunjet
Posts: 126
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2000 6:17 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:14 pm

RJ_Delta - Airtran will be fine.

Ft. Walton and Pennsacola are raising cash dollars begging for and guarranteeing new or continued service to their cities.

Skip ahead six months in the story of ATL-CAK. Does anyone really see Delta MD-80's on that route or Comair RJ's? Meanwhile Airtran continues DC-9 or 717 service.

ATL-MDW. Delta just left that market, make up your minds do you want to play ball or not?

Airtran makes money at these discounted prices and remember Airtran has a low cost structure. That's why they are a lowfare airline. Calling all Delta F/A's. It's big fat contract time. Go ahead ...organize. PLEASE. You too Mechanics.

Airtran's profits will go into a dive for a while, but Delta will have to pull up soon, before they go down in a sea of red ink.

Airtran will be fine.


BonanzaFunjet
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:19 pm

About the fool who wanted fare increases. Why kind of BS is that. I don't see how you can like airplanes and not even be able to fly them because of jacked fares (Like $475 between hubs). Thanks to Southwest Airlines, I am able to see family members from California. My neise makes about 5 or 6 trips a year out to MSY, with good lowfares. I can't wait for jetBlue to start MSY-LGB Service. Thats even better. Herb's goal was to start a unique type of an airline that offers lowfares, great people, frequencies, and hassle free travel experience. Look at the "Southwest Effect". Businesses are popping up everywhere, and one in particular follows SWA in expansion. Business travelers are flying more than ever, and people are brought together, thanks to Southwest and the freedom to fly. You can take your precious Delta, enjoy their lowfare competition service, and then bicker like crazy when the lowfare airlines are gone. And be chained to the ground.

I support lowfare airlines, and I hope people follow me.
 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:25 pm

Sorry I saw this and it just screamed competition in my face.

Aio86 --> Competition is what businesses are supposed to engage in. I know it seems unfair given that an airline tries very hard to enter markets dominated by larger carriers in the hopes that they can do a better job. But they are "big boys" and realize that they can get their feathers ruffled.

The competition only gets unfair (and illegal) if Delta were to offer their services below their real cost, for the sole purpose of putting Airtran out of business.

Believe me, competition is best thing that can happen to consumers, and you should be glad it is happening.

Cheers,
Pete
"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 01, 2001 1:33 pm

I agree with Pete, we need competiton. You all have your airline preferances, I have mine. With Competition, we can fly on our airline of choice. If DL put FL out of business, your little "Lowfare, Joyful, Fun" Delta days will be bye bye. And mine too (On FL). jetBlue is a mighty carrier, I have lots of confidence and support in David Neeleman. I have travelled 2 hours just to greet people getting off the first flight, with a friend. All the people of jetBlue swarmed around me to greet me, give me gifts, business cards, take pics, and give me and friend a tour of the A320. It was a wonderful day and worth the time.
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:53 am

DELTA IS A JOKE. That's all I have to say about that (Co LITE has said everything I was gonna say)

GO AIRTRAN, GO, GO, GO, GO AIRTRAN, GO, GO, GO, GO
 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:54 am

DELTA IS A JOKE. That's all I have to say about that

What a profound and intelligent statement!

Pete
"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
Tango-Bravo
Posts: 2887
Joined: Sun Jun 17, 2001 1:04 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:56 am

Delta's move, to me, is mindful of the villain in professional wrestling who is so intent on inflicting hurt on his opponent that he loses focus on the real objective of the match and ends up putting himself on his back for the three count pinfall loss at the hands of the target of his mayhem. Hopefully the outcome of Delta's disingenuous, reactionary move will have the same outcome in the markets announced. Has Delta "suddenly discovered" profit potential in routes not deemed viable for mainline service in times that were better than the present?

Competitive decision by Delta? Get Real!!!
 
airlinelover
Posts: 5287
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2001 8:03 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:59 am

Critter592 wrote:

DELTA IS A JOKE. That's all I have to say about that (Co LITE has said everything I was gonna say)

GO AIRTRAN, GO, GO, GO, GO AIRTRAN, GO, GO, GO, GO


How true it is!!!

Chris
Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 11:19 am

Competition is partly doing things better than your opponent and partly trying to disorient him.

It's like sport. Good passing and stick-handling alone will not always win a game without the occasional body-check.

As far as the villain in pro wrestling, that's pure entertainment.

Cheers,
Pete
"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:22 pm

Delta is a horrible airline. I think the people at Delta treat me like third class passengers on the Titanic. I have had nothing but horror experiences with Delta. Thanks to them, I got stuck and didn't make it to GRB ontime, cutting a day off of my trip. This was in CVG. There were other planes taking off, all of them, but DELTA! This was the end of me taking Delta. I have met all but 3 nasty FL employees out of about 50. I see nothing but grouch DL people at EVERY station I go to!
Take AirTran.
 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:53 pm

Sorry to hear about your bad experience on Delta, Co_Lite. I have not had any bad experiences in over 500,000 miles on DL. Missing a connection is not uniquely a Delta feature, and as a frequent traveler, I always have contingency plans. (I carry enough personal effects for an extra day)

If DL were really that horrible, it would be out of business by now.

Cheers,
Pete

"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
VirginA340
Posts: 2556
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:35 pm

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:18 pm

DL was rated High fare Low Satisfaction by Consumer Report Oct 2000 issue. Along with AA and UA. The three worst while NWA, CO and Air Tran were rated marginal. The best were Midwest Express, Aloha and Midway. But my fav is Jetblue. The more competition the better. I love AT. I'm turned off an unimpressed with the big airlines. Hope JB, and AT make a killing.
"FUIMUS"
 
BonanzaFunjet
Posts: 126
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2000 6:17 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Mon Sep 03, 2001 11:28 pm

Delta-Flyer wrote:

Competition is partly doing things better than your opponent and partly trying to disorient him.

It's like sport. Good passing and stick-handling alone will not always win a game without the occasional body-check.

As far as the villain in pro wrestling, that's pure entertainment.




Well Delta-Flyer, you'll like the move that nimble Airtran will announce moving from Ft. Walton Beach to Pennsacola just 40 miles to the northwest. Seems the people of P'cola put up over $2.0 million dollars to get Airtran to come save them from high fares. P'cola is a larger city and has military bases to tap for low fare passengers.

Ft. Walton Beach airport will be going through two years major construction that will require passengers to board from tents. The good pople of Ft. Walton Beach that want low fares (and who doesn't) will just have to drive a few miles down to P'cola.

Now, just how long is Delta going to leave those nice big MD-80's in Ft. Walton Beach.

Round one goes to Airtran.

BonanzaFunjet
 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 12:22 am

I don't want to keep on flogging a dead horse, but here is one more thought. The small niche airlines are forcing fares overall to go down, which is good for consumers. I benefit from that, too, because I can fly Delta to Chicage for $230, same as Southwest. I think this is great, and wish them success.

But it is not reasonable to compare an Airtran or a Southwest to a major like Delta. They are different businesses, serving different clientele. You have to understand that my needs are different from yours, and a Jetblue or an Airtran cannot satisfy them. (And I am part of the majority when it comes to money spent on airfare.) I travel frequently to many different destinations from Jackson MS. I need an airline that flies to all these destinations and offers frequent daily flights to each. For example, if I miss the 5:35 pm departure coming home from Chicago (via CVG), I can catch the one at 6:10 via ATL or the 7:45 also via ATL. Another example, I am going to Paris in a couple of weeks and have a choice of 4 overseas flights a day (one of them AF, a partner) with only one change of aircraft.

I really don't care about the skirmishes between Delta and Airtran at Fort Walton Beach, nor about the Consumer Reports rating, nor that an agent was once rude to a teenager. Delta provides me with exactly what I need, and as I said before, with virtually no hassle. When that situation changes, I will look for another carrier.

So, you see I get a bit uptight when someone says "Delta is a joke" because that not only reflects an immature, unreasoned attitude, but is totally unfounded.

Cheers,
Pete

"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 12:34 am

We all have our own opinions. My type of travel is leisure, so I am with Airtran, Frontier, jetBlue and others. I think customer service is better at smaller airlines. Northwest is about the only major airline I fly. I have not tried Continental. I like the convinence of Memphis Airport from where I live (GPT Region).
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 3:30 am

air tran is pulling out of vps--starting service in pns in mid-november--giving dl some competition
 
HyperMike
Posts: 968
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 1999 7:03 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:11 am

Business travelers are flying more than ever

No, no, no, no no. In the past year, biz travel has declined, BIGTIME. Most companies are now telling their people that travel must be limited to only essential travel. It's called a slowing economy.
 
HyperMike
Posts: 968
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 1999 7:03 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:22 am

Co LITE,

I respect that you're a leisure travel person. But you have to realize that between 60 and 70 percent of an airline's profits come from the biz travel types. It's those of us who are willing to pay $1200 for a ticket from PIT to TPA for a meeting with a customer that make money for the airlines. Granted, its being paid by my company and not my wallet.

You also have to realize that because I'm flying on a higher-margin ticket, any airline will most likely work a little harder to rebook me to my destination because they want me (and the profit margins associated with my ticket) to come back.

One of the key points to airline economics is that biz fares cause profits to go up and leisure fares cause RPMs to go up.
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:40 am

I don't have a problem with Business Fares being so high. I heard they actually make leisure fares lower, if im not mistaken. Its good businessman don't have to pay those fares.
 
blink182
Posts: 5273
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 1999 3:09 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:51 am

At least Air Tran isn't dumb enough to introduce a new scheme like Delta.
GO AIR TRAN!!
rgds,
blink182
Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
 
BonanzaFunjet
Posts: 126
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2000 6:17 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:54 am

Delta-Flyer, thank-you for thoughts. At this point you are in the majority for money spent on airfare, but even the Wall Street Journal has picked up on the fact the Delta and the other majors had better watch out as the business traveler is revolting against high fares. How are the majors going to support their high cost structure?

Delta along with the other majors are fighting for their business life, it's only a matter of time before Airtran, SWA, or Jet Blue offer you that service you need.

Then we will say "Welcome aboard!".

Until then, enjoy!
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 7:19 am

Yes, thats right. AirTran and jetBlue are a Business Travelers favorite. On AirTran, if your Business does not pay for Business Class, then you can hand over $25 and get a seat up front. Its pretty good up there, and its even proven popular with leisure travelers. And those business travelers love jetBlue. These days, more and more Business people are traveling on the the lowfare "Business Favorite" Airlines.
 
txagkuwait
Posts: 1388
Joined: Fri Aug 27, 1999 7:39 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 8:31 am

Sccutler said it well on one of these threads the other day.

Nobody stops to realize it...they throw all this nonsense around about "no business traffic on Southwest."

I'd venture to guess that 60...maybe even 70 percent of Southwest's passengers are business travelers. One could argue "wise" business travelers who are not squandering their employers' money.

All those folks who express the common misconception that "Southwest is not an airline for business travelers" really need to wake up...go hop on one of those flights between HOU and DAL...HOU and MSY.....MCI and MDW....MDW and STL......DTW and MDW......PHX and LAX...you name it.

At any rate, the industry is in a pretty rapid rate of evolution right now. Airlines that cannot learn to live on a lower walk-up business traveler type fare may be doomed.

 
delta-flyer
Posts: 2631
Joined: Mon Jul 30, 2001 9:47 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 9:15 am

On the subject of Delta's high fares -- I'll concede that the low-fare airlines are attracting business travelers away from the majors. As long as their routes and schedules fit, it makes sense. Despite what the industry watchers say, I almost always manage to get a decent fare on Delta and still enjoy the flexibility a major offers. The majors are always very sensitive to charge just high enough to keep the planes full.

As the recession cuts into business travel, they will reduce prices and maybe retire some old planes sooner than scheduled and cut some jobs in order to manage cost. DL seems strong enough to weather a downturn.

Cheers,
Pete



"In God we trust, everyone else bring data"
 
BonanzaFunjet
Posts: 126
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2000 6:17 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 9:30 am

Delta-Flyer - Agreed.

Airtran does the same thing. When the plane is near full the price of the ticket goes up. Airtran is retiring their last 732 from scheduled service tomorrow, and three DC-9's by December.

Most importantly - Airtran will weather this turndown and Delta's all out attack. Might even post a profit while doing it, something all businessmen can appreciate.

BonanzaFunjet
 
Guest

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 10:36 am

Hey guys you have to remember critter592 and Co LITE are a couple of teenagers and act like it! Delta flys more pax than any airline in the world! they will be here long after air tran and jet blue are gone! Pete more of the real flying public love Delta so dont worry about a couple crybaby,s
 
aio86
Posts: 910
Joined: Sat Sep 16, 2000 12:16 pm

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 11:29 am

For sure Delta is going to be along for a long long time. I don't think that they're in debt and I think that the company is running smoothly.

I didn't know that AirTran flies/flew 737s. I just knew about the DC-9s and 717s. How many did they have? Where did they fly to from (presumingly) Atlanta?

-aio86

PS. glad to see my post generated so much interest.
 
MAH4546
Posts: 24557
Joined: Wed Jan 24, 2001 1:44 pm

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Tue Sep 04, 2001 11:50 am

airTran flies the 737 on MIA-ATL, and other routes I am sure. Now, I do believe airTran also leased some 737s, no? From Miami Air, I think.
a.
 
travatl
Posts: 1943
Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2001 4:57 pm

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Wed Sep 05, 2001 1:03 am

aio86 -

AirTran inherited 12 737-200s from the AirTran/ValuJet merger in 1997. One was immediately turned back (leased). Seven left over the course of the following two years. Leaving four in operation for the previous 18 months. The last of which will fly tomorrow, September 5.

At one time or another they've been used on all the routes, but they have been primarily flying in the MCO markets as that's where the 737 line and heavy maintenance facilities are.

The AirTran 737 in the old paint scheme:


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Aric Thalman




Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Thornton Shepherd



And in the new:


Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Aric Thalman




Click for large version
Click here for full size photo!

Photo © Jeroen Westram






ALSO to odlelwood who made the following statement: "Delta flys more pax than any airline in the world! they will be here long after air tran and jet blue are
gone! Pete more of the real flying public love Delta so dont worry about a couple crybabies"

I believe the same comments were made regarding Southwest and it's competing with Texas International and Braniff (i.e. TexIntl and Braniff would be around long after Southwest). Southwest was never taken seriously, and for many years didn't even operate outside of the state of the Texas. Who would doubt their viability in the industry now? Am I saying AirTran or JetBlue are the next Southwest or for that matter any better than Delta or any of the other majros? Not necessarily...BUT...the reality is...these airline ARE filling their planes, ARE making money, ARE attracting passengers, and ARE growing, when the remainder of the industry is posting huge losses and cutting capacity.

Joe Leonard, AirTran's CEO, has already stated publicy that he anticipates his carrier achieving Major Carrier status (i.e. posting $1 billion USD in gross revenue by 2003).

Don't be so quick to discount the discounters. ANY airline can be "here today, gone tomorrow".

Travis


 
srbmod
Posts: 15446
Joined: Tue Mar 20, 2001 1:32 pm

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Fri Sep 07, 2001 5:11 pm

Some analysts have been a little more rosy in projecting AirTran as a major airline by March of 2002. As for Delta's moves into mainline service to CAK and VPS against AirTran, they could be seen to a small degree as desparate moves to win back passengers. If Delta couldn't make money putting MD-88s into Augusta, GA, what makes they think they can make money with they into Canton-Akron and Fort Walton Beach. 737-300s would be a better aircraft type for these routes, and would give Delta better load factors than MD-88s. AirTran has always had good load factors to/from CAK, so much so that one flight was switched from one stop service (CAK-ATL-MCO-ATL-CAK) to a nonstop to MCO. What next Delta, flights to MLI and BMI? I think Delta's ATL-CAK will be shifted to ASA by the end of the year, as will ATL-VPS. ATL-MDW may be a real threat, but I don't think that Delta has enough demand for four to five flights a day to MDW.
 
FlyPNS1
Posts: 5271
Joined: Wed Dec 01, 1999 7:12 am

RE: Delta Starts Competition Against AirTran

Sat Sep 08, 2001 5:00 am

I have a feeling those MD88's at VPS may be very short lived. Airtran has already announced their intention to move VPS operation to PNS sometime in late fall. The exact date is contingent on when PNS completes the funding of its travel bank. With Airtran gone, DL will inevitably raise VPS fares and traffic volume at VPS will fall....eliminating the need for DL MD88's.

For more info see here: http://www.pensacolanewsjournal.com/news/090101/Local/ST001.shtml

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: andrej, avi8tir, Baidu [Spider], Bing [Bot], copa330200, deltal1011man, djlandkpl, Dublinspotter, ehaase, ek17, Gemuser, Google [Bot], greg3322, hOMSaR, LFW, N776AU, qf15, qf789, Raventech, Rmjhjr, StTim, toltommy, usflyer msp, VirginFlyer, xiaotung and 295 guests