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Emirates News

Sun Sep 02, 2001 11:35 pm

Some of the latest developments:

1/ Kochi. Emirates has been granted approval to fly to Kochi (in India) from September 2002. EK is currently in the process of negotiating weekly seat allocations. Firm details will be announced over the next couple of months. This development has happened in light of Kerala being opened up to other Gulf carriers. I know Oman Air has already started and Qatar are due to begin by the end of the year and Kuwait Airways will start in early 2002.

On the Indian front, the Hyderabad service is off to a good start. Loads are very strong. Emirates is also working with the Indian authorities on access into Bangalore and Trivandrum.

2/ Peshawar. With the phasing out of the A300/A310s, there is some debate over what happens with the Peshawar route. My understanding was that at least one A310 would stick around, but now it appears even this will be phased out by April next year. Given that the A330 has difficulty operating into PEW (turning circle too short), two options are under consideration. First, drop the route altogether. Second, code-share with another carrier eg. PIA.

3/ Johannesburg is having a stellar year. Seats are very hard to find. With a lack of available 777s to offer higher capacity, Emirates may add a couple of frequencies in addition to the daily A330.

4/ Dusseldorf. Currently only averaging 130 pax per flight. Although slated to operate with an A310, the SriLankan crisis has meant the A310 has been switched over to the Colombo route. At the moment they are plying 285 seat A330s as no other acft are available. As expected, cargo is the major source of revenue here. The rumour mill over the planned A330 one-stop op. to NYC has now shifted to DUS. Given the loads here are so weak they can utilise the extra capacity for NYC pax. Personally i think the US flight via Europe are looking less likely. I think they will wait until the A340-500s arrive at the end of 2002.

5/ Munich. Plans for the 2nd daily are still on. But this will happen gradually (one more A330s arrive later in 2002). In the meantime, to cover short-term demand they will operate B777-200s when needed.

6/ Dublin. Negotiations are continuing with the Irish authorities. No set date yet but likely to be in the next 6 months.

7/ Aircraft repaint in new colours. Almost the entire fleet has been repainted in the new colours except the A300 (A6-EKM) and A310s (A6-EKK, EKL, EKP).

A board meeting is scheduled for Sept. to approve Emirates ambitious expansion plans. This will approve a fresh new order of acft which will be placed at the Dubai airshow in November.

Next year a whole new batch of 777-300s arrive (5 of them) in addition to at least 5 A330-200s.

Next acft due for delivery: A6-EAI Airbus A330-243 (JY-high density config.)

Anyway, that's it. I flew Emirates this week and managed to jumpseat in the A330 again. It was great, and this time i got the headset to listen to the pilot/ATC comms.

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Australia/SE Asia?

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:08 am

What about the planned services to Perth or Brisbane, Australia? Are they going to go on with that? Is there any stops between these routes? If yes where? About its KUL operation, shouldn't they operate it non-stop instead with a stop in Dhaka? Passengers traveling on Malaysia-Europe sector finds it really troublesome to stop in both Dubai and Dhaka. Are they omiting that stop? Thanx.

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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:15 am

What about Moscow? There is a huge traffic between two cities and I guess Emirates wants to break Aeroflot's monopoly since a long time.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:19 am

And what about the GLA services due to start shortly??
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:31 am

I wonder if anyone from Emirates is on this board - they would be delighted to see how popular they are, from Moscow, to Glasgow and of course the centre of the known universe (aka Dublin!)!!

Seriously, great news and great to see them growing so well. I don't know if you got a recent email from the orders egroup, but apparently more 332 orders are expected at the Dubai air show in November. One point while I'm thinking of it - have they ever considered A330-300s? I realise that the -200 has a longer range, but on most of the 332's EK routes, such as MAN, BHX, etc., the 332's range isn't tested and it would seem better, if they needed capacity growth - even on particular days of the week - to have the opportunity to switch up to the 333, rather than a whole new aircraft (the 777).

Thanks for your continued info on EK, which is much valued!
 
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RE: Kevin

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:02 am

Aeroflot's not the only airline that flies the DXB-SVO route. In the airport timetable it says both PC and SU fly this route five times a week each.
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:22 am

So does this mean that standby chances on DUS-DXB are good - even at Christmas time?

Regards from the little island further up the Gulf...
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:23 am

I guess the 2nd daily MAN wont be announced until more A330s arrive. Although I thoiught they may have hurried it up especially with CX leaving MAN.
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 6:10 am

The BHX-DXB service saw a bit of a dramatic slump in May, with "only" around 7,000 passengers (averaging about 112 passengers a flight) compared to over 11,000 passengers in the previous 2 months of operations.

The MAN-DXB service carried around 12,500 passengers (precisely 166 passengers fewer this May than last May) but this is around 1,000 passengers down on the previous 2 months.

Anyone got a reason for this discrepency in performance between the two routes?

I know the figures are slightly out-of-date but the Civil Aviation Authority only releases the data 3 months later than the month referred to.

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RE: David

Mon Sep 03, 2001 6:21 am

My only guess is that foot and mouth had put some people off from travelling into Britain during May, but I flew the MAN -DXB route in July/Aug this year and the flight was completely full. The loads on the MAN-DXB are generally very high, hence the negotiations about a second daily service.
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:31 am

I think Emirates should consider some narrow-bodies like 738/739 or A320/321.

A330 is a little to big for A310 replacement. And Peshawar is not a good airport for 330 to land. and if DUS got only 150 people per flight, then I think EK should really considering jets with less than 200 seats.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:38 am

I've just read on a BHX enthusiast website the news of the sudden drop of PAX using the service. Going from a monthly average of 165 to only 112 PAX per flight is a significant drop.

Jiml1126 raises a very valid point though. Maybe EK should consider smaller equipment? Having the A330-200 as the smallest fleet member (when the last of the older 'buses have gone) may cause problems for the airline. The question is, which type would be in the running? Perhaps the 767 or even the often talked about 757-200ERX? Airbus should really try and consider relaunching a new version of the A310.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:41 am

so what about the GLA route is EK gonna fly to GLA??
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:42 am

Thanks "Emirates777" for this much appreciated info. Has Emirates resumed their Dubai-Colombo-Singapore-Jakarta vv flights now?

Apparently, things are improving slowly wit SriLankan and the flights into Colombo are pickning up. Will then Emirates be resuming their B777 flights into Colombo before the years out?

Also, SriLankan is soon to start flying Male-LHR nonstop. I wouldn't think that Emirates would be too happy about this, as lots of UK tourists go via DXB to Male on Emirates.

Keep up the food work!
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 7:45 am

so what about the GLA route is EK gonna fly to GLA??
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 8:38 am

Emirates777, thank you very much for this information!!!

I just wonder how EK´s FRA service is doing in terms of pax and cargo? Don´t EK consider a second daily to FRA?

As for MUC it seems that the flight is rather sucessful now. I experienced here at the airport several times, that the loads espacially in F and C seem to be very high. What about cargo ex MUC?


Thanks a lot for any further information!

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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:41 pm

The reason you see the pax drop away during early summer i.e may/june is because of the weather in India etc where alot of the BHX connect onto, as soon as the rainy season is over you will see a fast improvement i am sure as its the same with the Turkmenistan service each year

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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 3:58 pm

I agree with the idea of smaller aircraft, especially with intra-gulf flights and some Indian services. They fly a B 777 to Bahrain, and I really dont knw how economical this is. Im wondering how much lnger it will be until they see a need to get new aircraft of smaller size?

Another thing if possible, What are the Desinations that EK serves?
These are the few I know:
MEL
SYD
SIN
Colombo
JNB
FRA
MUC
ROM
ATH
DUS
DXB


Thanx
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 6:36 pm


Foot and mouth and Indian weather can't explain a 4000 passenger difference between the MAN and BHX figures when there had previously been around 1000 passenger difference! Otherwise, the MAN figures would have had the same result.

There's got to be a different reason.

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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:00 pm

Don't forget that they fly to
NCE - Nice (France)
CDG - Paris (France)
The Nice sector has a stop over in Rome for like 30 mins then a quick 30 min flight to Nice at 18,000 feet.
From Paris direct to Dubai. Both flights when I was on them were opperated by the A330.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:15 pm

I think a Dubai-Dusseldorf-New York would be a good idea. Its good cause the airline starts being recognized in the US, prior to the launching of nonstop service from the US to Dubai. Plus they could get those seats full that are going out empty at this time.
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RE: Emirates News

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:21 pm

I think EK should quit Peshawar and code share with PIA on the route, or take passengers from there via Islamabad.

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New York...

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:36 pm

Well, now that Delta flies via Cairo to JFK and Malaysia Airlines which offers nonstop to EWR, I think Emirates shall see how these two airline is doing first. one with a stop and the other non-stop. As far as Malaysia Airlines is concern, their flights is doing great for the summer, with no seats available throughout September! But, EWR is still not a profit-making destination for Malaysia Airlines, so I really have no idea what is holding back Malaysia Airlines's profit for its KUL-DXB-EWR sector. With rumors that Malaysia Airlines going to suspend the EWR route, I think Emirates are considering this route cautiously! I am not too sure how Delta is doing on this route though!

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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 1:11 am

Ok, in response to all the questions.

Perth is happening but has been deferred until April next year when more aircraft are due. Emirates want to do the route non-stop and are aiming to use a B777-200ER. I did hear on my travels in DXB that they were considering the A330-200 but this would be pushing the limits of the acft with a reduced payload.

Brisbane is not happening.

Kuala Lumpur. Once more 777s arrive KUL will become non-stop, so possibly next year.

Moscow. Emirates were planning to add SVO to their network in Winter 1998 but just before then the Rouble fell down the pan. Since then Moscow has fallen off the priority list. I think they will add this route progressively once the additional A330s arrive. No clear timing on it though.

Glasgow. This route is currently under evaluation. No firm date on startup but it looks interesting from the perspective of feeding traffic to the Asian subcontinent.

Dusseldorf Standby. Yes IMO the chances are pretty good. I think of all the European routes, this is probably still not overbooked around peak seasons. Now this is assuming they are still using A330s at the time. There is a likelihood that once things improve in SriLanka they will bring back the A310 to DUS and then your chances of a standby become slimmer. You see A310 has a capaacity of only 170 in Emirates' FJY config.

Manchester. The plans for the 2nd daily are still on. I think this could be the surprise one. When A6-EAI arrives at the end of November it was due to add extra flights to Colombo. With the tough situation, they have already downgraded the flight from a high density to a low density. This means they have a spare HD acft, which could be re-allocated possibly to MAN and a 2nd daily. I think the 2nd daily will be definitnely start by March next year.

Birmingham. I agree with the comments from other members here. Emirates has actually sent in low density A330s on a number of occasssions over the summer. The slump can be attributed to seasonal factors. Also remember that BHX is a much newer route than MAN hence the pax. loads tend to be concentrated to certain countries. MAN has a much more diverse range of connecting traffic eg. Australia, Far East and Africa, something that BHX traffic will build onto over time. Hence, MAN loads are better protected during slower seasonal times.

Colombo/Singapore/Jakarta. No this route has not been restored yet. It is still operating DXB-MLE-SIN-CGK using the B777-200.

Frankfurt. This route is doing well also and has been slated to receive a 2nd daily during 2002. Both pax and cargo are performing well. I think another reason for increasing the freqs to both FRA and MUC is to give frequent/premium travellers greater flexibility and options for travel.

NYC. Well there is a reason why Emirates doesn't non-stop into NYC at the moment. It is simply uneconomical for them to operate a reduced payload B777-200ER year round. Actually DNATA turns around the Malaysian aircraft at DXB and they have the exact performance figures for the route. Given that there is a payload penalty it is simply not worth carrying low yielding economy traffic all the way non-stop. Cargo is a valuable contributor and can make the difference in terms of a route going from red to black.

Yes i have noticed that UL plan on flying MLE-LHR non-stop. They are also due to start MLE-NRT nonstop. I think Emirates are not too bothered as they own 40% of SriLankan. Also anything at this stage to minimise UL's losses is better than nothing.

You can check the list of Emirates' destinations on their website.

Actually the A330-200 is an ideally suited aircraft for Emirates' long, short and medium haul ops. I think that EK tests the range of the A330-200 fairly well on its existing route structure. Remember this acft now operates many of Emirates' longest segments including Manila, Johannesburg and Manchester. Furthermore, the two different acft configs enable capacity switching easily. By retaining the A330-200 they keep the fleet composition simple and can switch aircraft around from long and short haul missions. Also, I don't know how capable the A330-300 would be able on a full payload to do something like a Manila which tends to be quite full year round.

The idea of using narrowbodies on short haul operations had been considered a couple of years ago. Based on my last conversations, they decided to drop the idea. Personally, I think they need it on those short gulf hops, from a profitability perspective. Bahrain is actually a busy route, and they can often fill a 777. The A330 is ideally suited to this route. But the joke route of the pack is Muscat – operated daily by a 300 seat 777. I know of stories where there has been 4 pax on board and they still do the flight. It's all to do with "political issues". Emirates flies a lot of routes for political reasons eg. Muscat, Sanaa. For other regional routes a 777 is necessary. I know the Saudi routes go chocker blocked in all classes. As Emirates doesn't have access for daily into Saudi cities they have to rely on 3x or 5x using high density 777s.


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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 1:13 am

The recent drop in passengers at BHX may have something to do with PIA increasing it's frequencies there but i'm not sure.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 2:12 am

As Emirates777 rightly pointed out, BHX is a new route which only started in Dec '00. I think it is too early to judge the PAX figures. Personally, I think the route will get better as time goes by, I doubt if the extra PIA services will bother EK much though. PIA fly to Islamabad from BHX, which is quite a distance from DXB. The latter airport offers much better worldwide connections too. Also, passenger figures at BHX continue to rise per annum, it is actually one of the fastest growing airports in the UK. Terminal capacity is already considered too small by some, hence why the airport is currently in the middle of a £260 million pound expansion. EK may have a nice little earner with BHX in the future.

A possible threat to EK may be the rumoured Gulf Air services. The airline had talks with BHX not long ago about the possibility of commencing services, but I have not heard the outcome.

Finally, I would like to thank Emirates777 for all the news provided on this great airline.

Regards,
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 3:11 am

And still EK doesn't even consider AMS as a pax destination (AMS will probably the last European city that will get an EK pax service). But then again, we, at AMS, have the EK 747-400F which only goes in Europe to AMS (okay is does come to FRA for maintenance)......

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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:26 am

Thanks for the info on DUS - much appreciated.

Was in DXB the other day - the line up of A330 after A330 was highly impressive.

Gulf Air were offered BHX - but didn't get their act together in time to take the opportunity! Ditto their Manchester service - if they had operated it MAN-BAH they would have been much more successful!
 
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 5:30 am


Eg777er

Gulf Air weren't allowed to operate MAN-BAH by the powers that be. Now those restrictions have been lifted, perhaps they may be persuaded to operate to MAN once more.

David/MAN: 325 and counting

 
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 7:28 am

People flying PIA from BHX are mostly Pakistani's and of what I know many would rather fly PIA direct to Pakistan than stop over for hours in DXB, this despite PIA's bad reputation.
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 11:47 am

Emirates777,

do you have any info on the composition of the supposed huge EK order due to be announced at the Dubal air show in Nov? I presume more 332s, 777s(maybe 300ERs) and 380s. Not sure at the moment where they stand on the A345/6.

Dale.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 4:46 pm

Would Emirates ever increase to twice daily flights to Melbourne? It was peak season though but flights were full on the 773 when I felw so would they ever consider adding more capacity?
 
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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 11:00 pm

As i mentioned there is a big board meeting in September to approve Emirates' expansion plans. The big order will be approved at that time and placed at the Dubai Airshow in November.

I don't have firm details but you can expect orders for more A330-200s, B777s (most likely 300s) and exercising of options on 3 extra A380s. Furthermore, Emirates are closely evaluating the A340-600 following the range increase and orders for this type are possible, possibly through the conversion of existing 10 options on the A340-500s. IMO they are unlikely to place orders for the A340-600 yet, they would probably want to see how the A340-500 fares and then have options exercised on the A346 for delivery within 12-18 months of the initial A345.

Sheikh Mohammed wants to bring in more tourists to Dubai hence has asked Emirates to accelerate its expansion plans. The airline is now looking to have a fleet of 150-200 by 2010. All i would say to that is good luck to them, it's an ambitious goal!

I know Melbourne flights are very busy. But this is all very low yield traffic. I think they will make the MEL flight a daily 773 next year (currently only 3x weekly) and it becomes possible that the SIN stop would merely be technical (for fuel).

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RE: Emirates News

Tue Sep 04, 2001 11:11 pm

IMO I think Emirates should add DUB and SVO to their network as soon as they can.

I don't think that MEL will ever become double daily. The cost of a ticket to MUC/FRA/ZRH/LHR can very close to the cost of a ticket to MEL/SYD (from Dubai). If you divide the fare by the distance you'll see that the yields to australia aren't as high as the yields to europe. However from what I understand EK also makes alot of money through cargo.

I think 150-200 planes by the year 2010 is way too ambitious. I like the way they're expanding, it's very well thought out, but increasing the fleet to almost 200 planes in only 8 years (2001 is almost over) is highly unlikely. Anyways best of luck to EK.
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RE: Emirates News

Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:15 pm

Thanks for that Emirates 777! Have you got any info on services to Auckland NZ? as their rumours around awhile back about this! Anyway good luck to EK keep those new planes rolling in!

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RE: Emirates News

Wed Sep 05, 2001 5:17 pm

Emirates have expressed an interest in doing Auckland. My understanding was that it would only happen once the A340-500 arrives going via an Australian city.

However there have been rumours of the proposed non-stop Perth service being extended onto AKL.

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RE: Emirates News

Thu Sep 06, 2001 7:23 pm

Thanks for that Emirates 777. Hope it goes ahead oneday.

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RE: Emirates News --- Updated

Fri Sep 07, 2001 12:21 am

Emirates is planning on a fleet of 116 aircraft by 2010.

The April to June period was difficult for the airline, however things have bounced back nicely since then. Emirates are seeing crazy discounting from Far East carriers but is holding its load factors however yields are down on some routes (no surprise here!).

As stated before some of the 6x A380 options will be converted into firm orders.

As expected the A380 will be initially deployed on the Dubai-London Heathrow route. Thereafter, once additional aircraft are delivered they will be placed on the Saudi routes (mostly Jeddah) and IMO also to Bangkok/Hong Kong.

Emirates is currently talking to Airbus about increasing the range of the A380 to do Dubai-New York non-stop with a full payload.

Also as expected, the initial US routes will be to New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. San Francisco is being also considered.

Emirates will unveil a new long haul product, most probably a new First and Business class. Maurice reckons the first class will be better than Singapore Airlines.

Emirates want more access into India. They want more seats, and more destinations. The airline is also looking to add services to Mauritius, Shanghai and a Japanese destination. No timing on these however.

No plans to sell the 44% stake in SriLankan - they are in it for the long term. In fact Flanagan reckons there is potential in Colombo as a pax and cargo hub.

This info is taken from the Aviation Daily in an interview with Maurice Flanagan, Managing Director of the Emirates Group.

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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 4:42 pm

Sorry to bring the old one up again
Doesn't Emirates already fly daily to Melbourne but only 3 times to Sydney?
If you check the Melbourne Airport Website, there is an Emirates flight there all the time leaving at 19.20 and one arriving at 00.20.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 5:23 pm

Yes Emirates flies daily to Melbourne via SIN. 3 of the weekly flights are op. by B777-300 while the other 4 by a B777-200ER.

They actually fly 4x weekly to Sydney via SIN using a B777-200ER.

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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 6:58 pm

Off topic but Emirates777 can you please tell us why EK never took interest in buying off PIA or Air India? what was so attractive about Sri Lankan Airlines that they took stock in them?
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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 8:17 pm

The main issue it that they want management control. Air India wouldn't allow them. I also understand Emirates wanted more access into Indian airports, utilising Air India's unused route rights. Clearly the Indian's wouldn't let them do that.

I think the same issue applies to any potential PIA privatisation. My understanding is that the PIA hasn't initiated the privatisation process yet but you may be able to provide more colour on that.

With respect to SriLankan, i think Emirates saw it as a sideway approach into exploiting the south Indian market. Also, EK management think there is a lot of potential in developing CMB as a south asian hub. Furthermore, the Sri Lankan govt. was very accomodating to Emirates' demands and have given them full management control.

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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 10:50 pm

Great news re Emirates to Perth next year. Although it has been mooted before - hope it happens this time.

I know Melbourne flights are very busy. But this is all very low yield traffic. I think they will make the MEL flight a daily 773 next year (currently only 3x weekly) and it becomes possible that the SIN stop would merely be technical (for fuel).

Why the tech stop in SIN? Why not PER for say, 2 or 3 ex MEL and 1 ex SYD flights a week? Wouldn't this further ensure good LF out of Australia and possibly better yields with a few full more fares out of PER with what will be mostly bargain hunters (like me  Smile/happy/getting dizzy )of course?

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RE: Emirates News

Fri Sep 07, 2001 11:20 pm

Actually PIA was up for sale in the mid or late 90's so Im referring to that period, and not the new privatization announcement made a few months ago.
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Emirates777

Fri Sep 07, 2001 11:24 pm

do you know anything on glasgow GLA then cos i wanna see emirates at GLA real soon i also think they will do good in scotland. as they will be the only major airline offering direct flight to the middle east and connections to australia south africa etc.
 
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RE: Emirates News

Sat Sep 08, 2001 6:41 am

As mentioned earlier, GLA along with many other routes is under evaluation. There is no priority to start this route yet.

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DNATA: Emirates' Savior

Sat Sep 08, 2001 8:29 am

Typical Emirates- months of saying revenues are down on target and then- magic- profit posted. Oh well, that's what DNATA is for- siphon off some money here, give some to Emirates there...

La plus ca change, la plus c'est la meme chose.

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