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Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:09 am

When did Delta Shuttle start putting winglets on their 737-832 planes?
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:13 am

Have they? I live near DCA--was there just about a month ago during prime Shuttle hours--and I didn't see a single one with winglets. Has this changed?
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:15 am

Hi:

For now we still continue to see the Delta's 737-800 in the "classic type". But I think maybe in the near future Delta will choose with the Boeing 737-800 with winglets.

RJ_Delta.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:24 am

Wind up alert!! Wind up alert!!  Wow!  Yeah sure Note who the originator of this thread is - Crash Landing, who seems to think that non-certified, domestic configured B767-400s change their registrations at will to those of 772s...

He'll be saying that he's flown on Shuttle aircraft with winglets in a moment...
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:30 am

I do not fly on the Delta shuttle with winglets. But I was reading http://www.delta.com webpage and I saw a picture of the 737-832 with winglets, so I wanted to know. How do you know there is no such plane Ceilidh? Do you work for Delta? If no, then be quiet.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:40 am

I work for Delta, at LGA, and there are no current plans for winglets on the 738.. nor any other a/c we service.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:49 am

Delta fly boy - Do you not have winglets on the 767-432ER? Also, if there is no winglets on the 737-832, why is there picture at http://www.delta.com website?
 
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Crash Landing

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:50 am

I have never seen a Delta Shuttle 738 with winglets at LGA or Boston, and I have never seen a picture on Airliners.net, Airways, Airliners, Airliner World, World Airline Fleets, Flying, Aviation Week & Space Technology, or Flight International of a Delta 738 with winglets. My question is, with no hint of a Delta 738 with winglets, and no scuttlebut about winglets on a Delta 738, where did this come from? My final question is, with such short stage lengths (which contraindicate winglets whose fuel saving performance is maximized over longer routes) on Shuttle flights and at over $250,000 U.S. per set, why in the hell would Delta ever put them on it's shuttle aircraft? Think about it, the winglets would show up on the mainline fleet FIRST whose stage lenghts are greater, and we have no indication of winglets on any DL738. I think you have done NO homework on this one Crash Landing. By the way, why would you have such a negative name with regard to flying? Don't you know that any negative comments about flying diminish the whole industry?
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:52 am

There is picture of 737-832 with winglets on http://www.delta.com website, so why do you not go look at that. Otherwise, be quiet.

The picture is below from http://www.delta.com/images/aircraft/737800sh_dim.gif

 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 4:56 am

Seems like Delta took the drawings off of Boeing's website:

http://www.delta.com/travel/maps_guides/aircraft/b-737-800/index.jsp

However, the 767-400er don't have winglets, the correct term for the extensions are "raked wintips".

Tony,
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 5:39 am

Winglets help in long range cruise phase of flight. They are of little use on the short range flight where the extra weight and maintenance would not be worth it. On an hour flight from LGA to BOS or DCA they wouldn't help at all. Look at the domestic 747-400 in Japan, none have winglets.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 6:15 am

Crash Landing- If you keep telling people to be quiet, noone is gonna be able to answer the question you origionally asked. Thats all theyre trying to do. If they tell u that Delta 738s don't have winglets, then accept that.
BTW, 764s have "raked wing tips", thay are not winglets persay.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 6:39 am

They DON'T have winglets, I can promise you that. It does look like they used that image from Boeing.com. A normal person would not know the difference anyways.
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:25 am

Crash Landing has no profile so I guess he got deleted!

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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 9:46 am

Too bad, i wanted to hear about his flight to London on the Delta Shuttle (after they repainted it of course)....
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:40 am

Winglets help in long range cruise phase of flight. They are of little use on the short range flight where the extra weight and maintenance would not be worth it. On an hour flight from LGA to BOS or DCA they wouldn't help at all. Look at the domestic 747-400 in Japan, none have winglets.

Well, the winglets on the CRJ seem at odds with the above statement.

Cheers,
Pete
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:45 am

i think the loss of crash landing is my fault
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 10:51 am

In addition to the cruise-speed benefits of the winglets, they also offer improved climb and takeoff performance...thus ATA's selection of them for use at MDW. The smaller noise footprint is a great benefit of the t/o performance increase and would be a positive for DCA, LGA, and BOS
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 12:36 pm

I don't think Delta would spend moneys on working with winglets on DLS 738s, because DLS aer only fly on three short routes: LGA-BOS, BOS-DCA and DCA-BOS. It's not worth to spend money on this...however, the remaining regular Delta 737-800s might have a chances on getting winglets. Since they fly anywhere in the US.

What do you think?
Mike
 
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RE: Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738

Mon Sep 03, 2001 2:29 pm

A lot of airlines and airports seem to take their drawings straight fromt the aircraft manufactures, I bet thats what happened here. Its to bad he didnt accept it as a possible answer and not continue to fight.