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Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 3:42 am

I am going to visit my aunt in a few days in Denver. I am flying United Airlines. There is a good chance it will be a B777. We haven't gotten my ticket yet. My mom is a f/a, so we can get tickets within hours notice if we have to.

To make a long story short, how is United's B777 in terms of comfort? Don't give me the usual "anti-united" attitude. We are talking the PLANE, not the AIRLINE.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 3:44 am

Same as any other UA plane....

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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 3:46 am

I was on UA B777-222IGW (N799UA) ORD-DEN last year. I didn't like it one bit. I would have much rather been on a B767-300. My knees were smashed into the seat in front of me, my seat seemed to be loose, and it was joyous having the 2 people sitting to my left trying to get over me to the asile.
 
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RE: FLY777UAL

Mon Jun 28, 1999 3:54 am

I mean, compared to other UA transports.
 
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RE: FLY777UAL

Mon Jun 28, 1999 3:59 am

Yea...it's just about the same. Same seats in YC as the new ones on the 757/A320/A319...just different FC seats (haven't flown in those)and different BC seats...

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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 10:14 am

Its not a bad plane to fly in. I haven't use a UAL 777, but having used others, well, i don't mind them. There seems to be something about flying in 300 seaters - nice size to fly in. Wether that be a DC-10 a tristar an A330/A340 or a 777. I do think, that in just a small way, the 777 has a DC-10 feel about it. If you like other 300 seaters you should like it.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 1:32 pm

If you are flying coach you will most likely hate it. A 767 is alot better. Business class also sucks on some 777's their are no tv's in business class and their is a middle seat. Seconds their arent enough bathroom in business. first is the best. no one to climb over you personal tvs and more service. the only class that is good on the 777 is first

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Its not a bad plane to fly in. I haven't use a UAL 777, but having used others, well, i don't mind them. There seems to be something about flying in 300 seaters - nice size to fly in. Wether that be a DC-10 a tristar an A330/A340 or a 777. I do think, that in just a small way, the 777 has a DC-10 feel about it. If you like other 300 seaters you should like it.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 4:28 pm

I agree with "Lufthansa" it's the same style of plane as the DC-10 (my favorite plane). I took SIA 777 from Singapore to Brisbane (Australia) last summer and I enjoyed flying this plane very much. The engines are huge, and while take off they make a very characteristic noise, i've never heard on another plane. The wings also are very different: they go up very steeply compared to the 747 or DC-10. Inside, everything is very modern, from the seats to the overhead bins. At Singapore Airlines, you have live orchids in the Business class lavatories!! I flew Economy but even there the 3-3-3 seating gave an impression of space and comfort. Surely you'll love the individual TV screens, at SIA you can play Nintendo video Games, as well as 10 films and lots of music.
PS: Visiting the australian Gold Coast was as nice as flying 777!
For "Lufthansa": strange username for an australian...
Jean-Philippe (Strasbourg-France)
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 4:45 pm

On the UAL 777s that I've been on, there were boxes underneath the seats for the PTV circuitry that take up a bit of the legroom and storage space under some of the seats in each row. They detract some comfort. However, if I were going transcon I'd rather have the PTVs than not, so I could live with the reduction in foot room. I've never been on a 777 flight longer than 2 hours, though - never long enough to reap any benefit from the PTVs - so that's why I'm complaining. The seats are plenty wide though.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 9:31 pm

Having flown many different airplanes, I have found the 777 the best in the air. I have flown in all three classes (on United) and found the coach seats to be the best. Try it, you will love it!
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Mon Jun 28, 1999 9:34 pm

The 777 is probably one of the most comfortable planes in its class. When I went to Perth on SIA's 777, the Economy Class cabin was very spacious and the seats were big (bigger than the A340 I sat in on return). There wasn't any legroom reduction due to the seatbox (which is also located below the seat I heard) and the takeoff and climb was powerful. We got to 37000ft in like 5 minutes (depends on the ATC clearance). However, there was a certain kind of frictional noise (?) when the captain was lowering the flaps, we were in Business Class and could see the ailerons, wing, gigantic Rolls Royce engines. The lowering of the landing gear was very quiet, could hardly heard it and was trying to locate a shadow formed on the engine (or else I would have been very worried). The landing was very smooth, although it was done manually and basically a stylish and comfy (spacious) plane with a very nice smell (in the cabin). Slightly better than the Airbus 340 in my opinion.
 
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RE: Nevermind

Mon Jun 28, 1999 11:27 pm

My mom called United and got my itinerary this morning. I am flying a DC10 out and a 757 back. I still love the DC10.
 
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Singapore 777 - User

Tue Jun 29, 1999 12:51 am

Unless the Saturn V was attached to the bottom of your aircraft, there is no way you could get to 37000ft in 5mins. That is a climb rate of 7400ft/min. Quite impossible in a 777 carrying a load such as what would be on your flight.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Tue Jun 29, 1999 4:05 am

I've been on four different UA 777s and a couple BA 777s. The nice thing about the seating arrangement is that there are only two seats along the right/left sides, with 5 in the middle section. The thing that makes flying the 777 enjoyable, in part, are the seat-back video screens. Interestingly, the older UA 777s (i.e. N772UA) have them, but newer ones (i.e. N795UA) don't.

I also got to sit in the cockpit of a BA 777 from Boston to London. We were out over the Atlantic, approaching Ireland, and I was allowed to sit with the crew for about a half-hour. As we were on auto pilot at 37000 feet, there wasn't much for the crew to do but chat with me. It was great. That particular plane was G-VIIG...one of BA's newer IGW versions. I flew that plane for the first time in the fall of 1997 and once again this past May, on a flight from London back to Boston.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Tue Jun 29, 1999 4:34 am

Actually, the newer versions of the 777's do have the PTV's in Economy. There are only a few now without working PTV's.

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RE: Singapore 777 - User

Wed Jun 30, 1999 12:01 pm

Possible not, maybe 15 minutes but then again, our aircraft load (SQ 223, 08JUN) was only 1/3, or at most 1/2, the biz class section was practically empty!
 
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RE: Fly777ual

Wed Jun 30, 1999 12:08 pm

actually i have flown 10 777's and all but one didnt have tv screens.
 
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United Most Be The Only One Flying 777 Domestic.

Wed Jun 30, 1999 12:34 pm

I fly mostly AA,CO,and DL because of the area I am in. From the way some of the threads read like,UA is using the 777 on domestic routes,while everyone else are using them internationally. Using the 777 on domestic is not odd,considering it was suppose to the DC10 replacement,but its interesting that UA seems to be the only major doing it.
 
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William

Wed Jun 30, 1999 1:00 pm

The others do fly their 777 domestic, but not nearly as much as UA. Some examples are AA with DFW-ORD, DL with ATL-MCO, and CO with EWR-IAH. Also, none of the other's routes involve BOS or SEA.
 
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Aspen

Wed Jun 30, 1999 3:48 pm

Well, then you must have been on either the new or old 777's. From what I've observed on some international flights, the YC seats have PTV's however, they are inop. It is just on the initially delivered IGW models (used internationally...XI designated)that I have found the PTV's inop. or not installed.

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RE: Flying The 777

Wed Jun 30, 1999 6:55 pm

I have flown the Lauda 777-200igw for 24-26 hours and they have personal tv screens in every seat. With videogames and a own telefon so you could call to other passagers and even outside the plane. The food was the best I have eating on a airplane. Just go and look att www.laudaair.com and you will seee. they have a very good 777 homepage in shockwave.

Jonas

Lauda has two 772igw and tre 763er all with personal video screen!
Joystick for flightsim. Yokes for real planes.
 
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RE: No Screens

Thu Jul 01, 1999 3:03 pm

Call me petty but if I went through all the trouble to get a flight on a 777 and then found out it didnt have the individual screens I would be very dissapointed.

Is that dumb idea to not have individual screens on new 777's just a United thing?

Were they trying to scrape together a savings?

I'll stick to the very easily available DC10s until I know that I would get a screen

Petty perhaps but still my view.

All said and done its still a great plane but I want a screen!

Looks like I'll fly Continental
 
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RE: No Screens

Fri Jul 02, 1999 4:33 am

It's not United's IDEA, Naimas. UA wasn't happy with their supplier, GEC Marconi, and instead of installing the non-operating GEC Marconi screens (which costs money) UA decided to not install screens on a FEW of the 777's while a new supplier was being found. UA is now in the process of re-fitting those 777's with the NEW screens.

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RE: Thanks FLY777UAL

Fri Jul 02, 1999 8:52 am

Glad to hear that then. I can understand.

 
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RE: Flying The 777

Sat Jul 03, 1999 6:08 am

I have flown the Boeing 777-200IGW on Air France from IAD - CDG (Dulles to De Gaulle) just recently and have to say it is currently the most comfortable plane I have been on. The seats in coach reclined considerably farther than average widebodies (although this may be peculiar to Air France), and they seemed to "cradle" you in coach. We had individual LCDs for each passenger and had a choice of 15 channels. Everything was spotless and modern, and I really loved the overhead bins which closed almost flush to the ceiling. Only complaint I had was there were no personal air vents which I thought had become standard in newer widebody aircraft. Old DC-10s and L1011 didn't have them but 767s and A310s - A340s do. Don't know why Boeing didn't incorporate them into 777. Service was great on Air France anyway and the food was quite good for coach.
 
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RE: Flying The 777

Sun Jul 04, 1999 12:05 am

There are millions of passengers with more millions of ideas and opinions of airline travel. Sure, first class is best ...and you pay on the order of 10 times as much, too! "You gets what you pays for." All the airlines that are trying to use individual seat TVs are having varying amounts of trouble, including AA which is just starting their 777s. Individual seat TVs with a very large selection of audio and movies is great when it works. Here is what UAL has (and other airlines are doing the same):

1. Early 777s- Individual TVs at ALL seats. No wall screens or ceiling TV sets.

2. Various later 777s- No individual TVs. Wall or ceiling TV sets everywhere.
(that is cuz the individual systems were breaking down so much they couldn't keep up fixing them. Passengers were getting pissed off. First Class gets wall screens AND individual portable Sony cassette player vidieo sets with choices of movies to put int them...or watch whats on the big screen.
3. Other later 777s - Individual TVs ONLY in coach and Business Class. First Class gets the Sony cassettees treatment at each seat.
4. Eventually ALL our new 777s and existing ones, too, will be retrofitted with the individual seat systems....when engineering can figure out how to make the system more reliable. It is an extremely complex system to have in an airplane,

Bottom line; You can see all kinds of different variations of entertainment systems on 777s.....
There are plenty of bathrooms..not to worry about waiting in lines!
The worldwide travellers poles showed a preference of about 70+ percent in favor of the 777 over 30 percent for Airbus's long haul 340s.
Better yet, get your own Gulf Stream V and go in style. And you got your own private bathroom too! I vote for that.

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