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70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 4:08 am

Which airlines will order the 70/100-seat regional jets from Fairchild Dornier, Embraer and Bombardier? Atlantic coast Airlines Air Wisconsin? Continental Express? Delta Connection Carriers? Frontier Express? Hope for your answers

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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 4:17 am

Mesa has already ordered the CRJ-700 from bombardier.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 4:27 am

One of NWA's two regional carriers, Mesaba, has ordered them. Great planes. Really cool looking i think.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 5:08 am

The IPO spinoff of Continental Express will allow the pilot's contract to permit the flying of 70-seat RJs in the fleet. Whether or not ExpressJet Airlines takes advantage of this offer or not, there's a gap between the 50-seat RJ and 104-seat 737-500 that Continental might like to fill, being that they tned to fill lots of gaps in the fleet by ordering new aircraft(for example, the ordering of the 764 to fill the 757-777 gap and the ordering of 757-300s to fill the 762-764 gap)
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 6:02 am

During Delta pilot negotiations I heard ASA/Delta Connection has some 70 seaters on order, but the scope clause of the Delta pilot contract limited the connection carriers to just those jets on order at the time of the contract signing.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 6:23 am

USAirways is looking into 70-seat regional jet aircraft too.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 9:52 am

I think in about five years' time or so, scope-clause opposition's gonna basically be gone from the picture and as many carriers want 'em, will order them (or trade 'em or lease and so on).

But in the meantime,even before it gets chipped away more and more as a barrier, the scope-exempted codeshare guys like Mesa and Horizon seem to be leading the way for North American implementation of the bigger RJs.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 11:33 am

Mesaba didn't order 70 seat CRJS, They ordered the 44 seat CRJ.

Mesaba doesn't need a 70 seat CRJ when they have the 69 seat ARJ85. The whole reason why the ARJ85 has only 69 seats is due to problems with the unions so the planes have to be under 70 seats

RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 1:30 pm

The RJs are taking jobs away from major airline pilots because of their over-use. It may not seem like it now to commuter pilots but when they get to the majors, they will definately notice it.

RJs are good, and they have their uses, but they could affect the majors and their pilots in a negative way someday.

This is just my opinion though.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Mon Sep 10, 2001 1:32 pm

Horizon has 30 CRJ-70s on order and has already recieved its first two. Comair, ASA and American Eagle all have orders for the CRJ-70, as well as the already mention Mesa for its AmericaWest Express divison. So far, Bombardier has been the only manufacturer to sell a 70 seater in the US.
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RE: 70-seat RJs In The US?

Tue Sep 11, 2001 2:58 am

I don't think you'll see many 70/90 seaters out there. As the previosu posters have all confirmed most of the new contracts being signed do allow the regionals to buy some additional 50 and smaller seater RJs, but stricitly limit the top end to 70 and the total number of those. The CRJ has by far the leas, the only 70 seater EMB I see possible in the near future would be with CoEx when they are sold, even that will be limited. I think the Dornier may have missed the cut, late arrival and cancelation of the 428 angered numerous carriers, SkyWay is getting rid of their 328s in favor of the EMB, and ACA had to go out and buy more CRJs to take the place of DO428s they had ordered.
As for the 90 seaters, only Mesa will be getting them, these will be operated on their own as far as I know.

The real market is in the 44 seater and smaller area. American Eagle, ACA, Comair, Northwest Airlink, Trans World Express, and Contiental Express are all getting these as of now.