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Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:50 pm

Guys, this goes way beyond isolated car bombs and guys on foot with 5 pounds of C-4. This was a highly organized and executed attack by someone with the means to do so - i.e. a state.

This is where we will find out if Bush has any balls. The gloves must come off. Carpet bomb whatever country launched this attack. Someone has declared war against the USA. Declare it back, and follow through.

Charles
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:51 pm

Bush has the balls, of that I am sure. There won't be any little cruise missile attacks. Bush will go for the throat on this one, and I will support any action after something like this.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:58 pm

BOMB the effers.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 10:59 pm

Anyone think that the White House is in danger, and maybe another flight.....Its not looking good at all.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:02 pm

"Carpet bomb whatever country launched this attack".

*CALM DOWN* ok?

Just stay calm and *THINK* CAREFULLY.

What has happened is horrible, but just stay calm guys.

Talking about WAR is a serious thing, and we have NO INFORMATION as yet.

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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:14 pm

Captain Picard,

Always adding wise words. I am definitely with you. Charles, actually, we DON't KNOW ANYTHING about it. All we know is that - seemingly - three (hijacked) planes crashed into the WTC and the Pentagon.

Now it's time to think, to ask, and to identify. Furthermore, it is important to think about the people who just died in New York and Washington and their families. They need to clear up the situation and to provide as-far-as-possible safety.

Calm down. It's terrible, it's horrible what happened. It's even a stupid action. But, no doubt, the responsible people are going to pay for it. The world needs to be SURE about them before starting any actions.

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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:18 pm

No information?!?!?!?

Hundreds, perhaps thousands dead in a multiple, indiscriminate attack on civilian targets ?!?!?!?

That, and the name of the country from which the attack was launched is all the information you need.

No surgical strikes here. Show the world that the U.S. can shrug off only so much before the fangs and claws come after you.

Charles
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:19 pm

Bombs will not solve this problem, lets just pray we dont see WW3.

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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:23 pm

Charles,

Don't understand? We do not know anything about the question "go to war or not", which is your intention. Do you know the people behind the scene for SURE? Regarding the Palestinian claim... what if Mossad issued that one? Hope you get the point already. It is does not make any sense to start any immediate campaign. You need to KNOW.

Daniel
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:26 pm

I agree with Hkgspotter, lets hope there will be no WW 3

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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:27 pm

I'll say this right now: don't be surprised if our B-1, B-2 and B-52 forces are now on DEFCON 2 alert, armed with both conventional and nuclear weapons, and in the air and waiting for Presidential command for a retaliatory attack.

The attack on the World Trade Center may have killed at least 2,000 people. It will NOT go unpunished.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:29 pm


I think you people ought to calm down. Notzart is right in that Mossad may just as well be responsible for this as the Palestinians.

Anyway, you cannot go to war against the Palestininans becaue they don't have a country and you can't go to war against Israel (the Mossad case) because Israel's proxies in the US ruling circles would torpedo that initiative.

Anyway, let's see what Bush's advisers decide to do.

 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:30 pm

Daniel,

I never said that the U.S. should lash out indescriminately. But the people who launched the attack should not be alive by Jan 1, 2002. If there is collateral damage, so be it. That will send a future message that people who know terrorists live in the area should move somewhere else.

Right now, the primary course of action belongs to the CIA, who will find out who did this.

Charles
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:36 pm

Joni, the Palestinians consider themselves a nationstate. Let's for once treat them as such.
If they did this, as seems likely as it is their modus operandi (albeit on a larger scale than ever before) it is an act of war. Under international law any armed response is allowed to such.
The same if it is for example Iran (also not known for being in love with the USA or Afghanistan (though they probably lack the imagination and resources to pull this of)).
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:49 pm

I am with America and her people today...
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:50 pm

Folks,

With all the respect to Palestinians, this looks way more serious - someone like Bin-Ladean & Co, who is driven not by rational considerations, but by fanatic religious believes. It also looks like some not-so-US-friendly states took a part in this (Iraq/Iran/Afganistan). Palestinians are fighting Israelis (belive me, I'm familiar with this subject), not US. Even fanatic palestinian movements, such as Hamas, are using US for raising funds. We would have to wait and see what comes out of this, but I'm not rooling out a possibility of military compaign against Afganistan (for example), if americans decide that Bin-Ladean was behind this.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Tue Sep 11, 2001 11:53 pm

go to hell "joni"

my heart is crying, and beats with 130 pro second

my God my God my God
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:09 am

DEFCON 2, I can believe that, but nukes! I hope Bush will be wiser than to use those.

I wonder how the Palestinians pulled this of. I don't think the palestinians did this on their own. I don't consider them to have the resources to pul this of. Let alone the guts, a declaration of war (as it is) against the most powerful country in the world?

Possibly help from Bin Laden?

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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:48 am

Please don´t turn this forum into a forum of hatred.
I know this is the worst disaster ever in peace times and possibly - please, don´t let it become true - more than 10.000 people have been killed, but so far nobody knows who is behind these terrorist attacks.
War is never, never ever a solution.
The mass-murderes behind this attack, who only find their counterpart in men like Adolf Hitler and Reinhard Heydrich have to be wiped out with all and everybody around them, but a real war - that will only end in a far bigger tragedy than the one we all have to witness today.
I hope Bush and his government is wiser than many of us fear they are.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:52 am

LETS COOL IT !!

1) This is a major disaster.

2) The people that arranged this must be found.

3) War will not solve this.

4) I just pray that the US Government try to keep cool and not act before thinking.

Lets just think about all the dead, and more to the point the people that loved them.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:53 am

Its time to bomb bin Laden without restraint.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:55 am

America will absolutely blow the fu*cking hell out of whoever did this. You can count on Bush to follow all the way though; no pussyfooting around as Clinton is known for.

I love America. I guess that makes me Bush's poodle, but I'd rather be a dog in New York City than a prince in Riyadh.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:57 am


The US Military in NY, DC, MD, VA, PA, MA, is now on alert status "Delta" - the highest alert level in the military.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 12:58 am

I personally can't see the Palestinians pulling this off - I mean, this is a huge step up from suicide bombs. This is either a state-backed assault or an internal assault (i.e. by a US organisation). However, the fact that this seems to be a suicide attack makes me think of an Islamic attack.

I really don't know what to think. What an absolutely awful, awful day, and my deepest sympathies go out to all the victims, and all you Americans out there who are going to have to come to terms with this. I am so dreadfully sorry about what has happened.  Sad
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:00 am

as a Christian, I would rather forgive those that did this to us rather than go to war and blow everything up....

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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:00 am

I AGREE!!
Bush should strike hard and fast against the SCUM! responsible, killing 50,000 innocent people has no justification on any scale. The group/people responsible for this should be brought to justice by any means possible!!
RIP to the people who were lost today.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:02 am

Forget forgiveness, lets use Islamic principles of an'eye for an eye'
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:02 am

it's the end of the world in New York

it will be the end of the whole world if Iran & others are not stopped in their aim to have the nuclear bomb
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:03 am

Very noble. "If someone cuts of your left leg, hand him your right one".
I'd rather think along the lines of "do unto others as you had them do unto you", or "an eye for an eye". The kind of people that perpatrates acts like this are unlikely to understand any other language.
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:08 am

Will this be it though? Will whoever did this, have done their bit and made a point? Or will they do more and turn it into something bigger, and nastier?

Is it over?

Or just beginning?
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:09 am

I'm no fan of Bush and consider him an illegitimate President. As an American and a human being, I support him 1000% in this crisis. I pray for the people who lost their lives and their families. Now, nuke those bastards back to the fucking Stone Age. Foul language be damned...
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:13 am

It could get nastier, but if I were them I'd plan a single huge blow (which this was, probably the largest they could organise or it would have been bigger).
Remember they are at the mercy of the lax security at airports and bordercrossings in the USA. This will now be tightened considerably.

If there were more strikes, their effects will start to appear in the next few weeks. I'm talking biowar now, let's hope it does not come to that as it can potentially kill millions.
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:13 am

Suspects:-
1.Osama bin laden
2.Pakistan based terrorist outfits.
3.Palistanians.
4.Iraq
5.Libya
6.Taliban

most likely a coordinated effort by 1,2 &6.
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:14 am

the more we piss off these arabs, the more planes will be lost.. the more buildings will get blown up....

we all need to learn to forgive.....
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:17 am

I have heard that Palestinians were having parties etc.. when they heard the news. Could it be them?

Remember, this is only a rumor.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:18 am

... and, with all the sadness, this terrible day of terror illustrates the various ways a nation can be attacked by terrorists. Something like the Missile Space Defense Program cannot provide a general security.

Daniel
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:19 am

What if it's another McVay, who ya want to carpet then?
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:19 am

Segment_King: I am sure you are just trying to stir up a lot of anger by making such pacifist statements.

You can't forgive acts such as these.

Carpet bomb the fuckers and turn their countries into glass.

Quit being such a pussy.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:20 am

ABC showed video of Palestinians in the West Bank celebrating, jumping up and down with smiles on their faces.

Sick sons of bitches. If it's one of them, I hope the American government takes appropriate measures and takes them out.

This is not about revenge. It's about ending this nonsense once and for all.
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:21 am

SegmentKing, that is why the Mob used to "terminate with extreme prejudice" and Islamic bloodfued calls for "killing them in all their generations".
In other words, do not leave anyone alive to carry a grudge against you. No half measures this time, like killing the head of a group. Kill them all and be done with it.

Jaspike, Reuters confirms elation and parties in Lebanese camps and PLO controlled territory.
Lebanese PM and Arafat (of course) condemn the attacks. The Lebanese PM is probably sincere, I have serious doubts about Arafat who is a known terrorist himself.
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:23 am

oh dear...
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:23 am

HAHA! Oh boy lot of nice comments. Keep it up! (KILL'EM KILL'EM - like from Rambo or something)  Big grin
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:24 am

I seem to remember the US praying that Isreal and Syria wouldn't strike back when they were attacked by the Iraqi scud missiles ten years ago,and the US has been keen for Israel to show restraint in the face of the numerous palestinian terrorist attacks over the last few months-the boot is now on the other foot.Can Bush show restraint? More importantly will the US electorate show restraint in the face of the worst act of terrorism the world has ever seen.
I hope and pray nuclear weapons don't come into the equation,it will be the end of our one and only home planet.
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:28 am

Guess this is the effects of investment in National Missile Defences and bad stuff like that... Innocent people dies because of puppet games by politicians  Crying
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:29 am

TIME TO GO TO WAR ??????????????

YOU BET IT IS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TIME FOR PAYBACK.....

JET
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:29 am

So why didn't you all blow Japan when you had the chance?

Oh... yeah... I forgot...

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Osama Bin Laden

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:32 am

OSAMA BIN LADEN MUST DIE


When talking about such a large scale terrorist attack, he's the only one who could organize, plan, and sponsor such destruction. This must not go unpunished.

With as many as 50,000 dead.....There must be a price on his head.

anybody else agree?
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:34 am

WAR has to be the answer or at least strong retaliation
we can not sit back adn let this happen!
we have been violated!
 
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RE: Osama Bin Laden

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:34 am

No.  Smile
 
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RE: Time To Go To War

Wed Sep 12, 2001 1:35 am

Of course - you have been viiiooolated. Oooh... I forgot.
No one else has? (end of discussion - bye)